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Okay so this is my interpretation of symbolism in their Levanter music video.

Here's the official music video



0:02: Duality on their clothes



1:13: Pretty sure this is predictive programming to the new world order



1:25: Moon worship



1:45: They burned the ticket maybe they didn’t like that option or path



2:01 They walk away with the two moons separate from each other. The distance represents something



2:05: They arrive at an another door/path



2:15: They pass through with chan the leader leading them



2:25: IN hesitates but chan encourages him to get in



The two moons in the “new world” they entered are coming together symbolizing something
YES I noticed this too bc I started noticing these things in kpop groups and I didn’t want to look into stray kids at first bc after being introduced I was weirdly obsessed (maybe not obsessed but I started watching a bunch of edits and things like that which I never do bc being a “fan” of an artist or people is not something I do) but anyways

In the dance that hy0nj1n did to the play with fire song I noticed that he had put up
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And also i don’t think I’m rlly stretching but I felt like this was some one eye symbol thing right here but when he put up the It was during like fire cackling sounds and I felt it was random

I honestly didn’t rlly like this video but what are you guys thoughts?
 






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YES I noticed this too bc I started noticing these things in kpop groups and I didn’t want to look into stray kids at first bc after being introduced I was weirdly obsessed (maybe not obsessed but I started watching a bunch of edits and things like that which I never do bc being a “fan” of an artist or people is not something I do) but anyways

In the dance that hy0nj1n did to the play with fire song I noticed that he had put up
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And also i don’t think I’m rlly stretching but I felt like this was some one eye symbol thing right here but when he put up the It was during like fire cackling sounds and I felt it was random

I honestly didn’t rlly like this video but what are you guys thoughts?
the second picture looks a sexual pose or something, mimic oral sex maybe ??
 






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she is a 5 star michelin


i think its an individual thing, there are too many circumstances of how and why they became an idol
omg yes they hug so awkwardly, glad im not the only one who noticed that, at least they getting food tho lmao.


did they just may or may not purposely called st4ys a bunch of insects who work for them towards a certain goal? because thats a good analogy for what a fandom is, their fans are voting crazy just like other fandom does. also, they literally beg their fans a lot for voting for them, fel talked about it in bubble on how st4ys are their only hope and whatever happens or will happen, it is in the hand of st4ys, and i was like, sir youre literally begging for them to vote, this is so sad. and hj cried in the stage while begging for st4ys to not leave, i feel like theres a pattern here, they only use their fans to help them towards a certain goal and thats what bees are all about.


yeah, and i bet he is not okay with it since fans literally call him a pig all the time, like, the other members seem to get normal animals and then there cb...


yea exactly, i wonder why, he could not just say that as a joke or sumn, also remember when fans blame jype's wifi because bc's live is lagging? and then he literally quick to scold them telling them "please dont blame everything on jyp, they have good wifi" lmao like g0t7 hate jyp so much and then theres this guy.


idk, i think its an asian features thing, thats why non kpop stans always say "they all look the same", i dont see it because im used to it but yeah its soo weird that they look almost identical, especially sm and w0npil.


i remember back when i was still in the bt5 thread, we talked about bt5 having a handler within the group, and i dont want to frame the guy as "the evil one" or sumn, but he does gives me cult leader vibes as i mentioned.
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they’re lowkey laughing
 






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I mean don't the higher-ups whatever they are make the artists that want fame and wealth believe that if they give them what they want they will in return make them "powerful" (famous, wealthy, worthy of people's love, admiration, even worship ew), so I wonder if some of them truly think that they are unstoppable but they don't know that they are in reality sick in the heart. that's the transaction.

but the main problem here is how this theme, even if it's only for aesthetic purpose, is being promoted and normalized for millions of people; egotism, pride, narcissism, whether it is their intention or not. It is that deep, humans should know their place.

haha maybe that "jyp is an idiot" is a kind of "fan-service", u know when ur fav uses an (not-so)inside joke and it excites the whole fandom. Still, jyp "humbling" himself in front of the grp, them making fun of him in a song, in a performance, jyp apparently asking skz's approval + they were known to have more power than jyp since years, is it only a concept? I'm not necessarily doubting that it can't be deeper than a concept but even if they kept this storyline since the beginning, a few people aren't believing that grp members were 100% handpicked by a trainee (even though the opposition a admits hat " it's obvious bc all sub have to get their sup's approval") and also believe that the final version of some of their songs they release are mainly the product of other producers, that they don't have THAT much power or control overall (as we are shown).

And btw this grp apparently chose their name themselves during the survival show but jyp filed for the trademark for "stray kids" in may 2017 whereas, if I'm not mistaken, they were chosen as the team to debut in august 2017, and after they had to chose a name but?
its the same old concept either, i can like list 20 groups who have had the same concept. and yes, i still believe theyre not at all mighty and how the fans said like "oh jaywhypee is scared of them" like what? how do u know? theyre literally under his and the manager's control. if they are so mighty, they wouldve left jaywhypee and make their own company like got7 does because of how bad the company treats them, literally ALL of jaywhypee's idols doesnt like how he treats them and demands to leave the company because theyre not allowed to do anything under certain circumstances and that is to get the permissiom first. all of these idols leaving and destroying jaywhypee and then theres b4ng ch4n getting mad at st4ys because the company's wifi is shit and telling them not to blame jaywhypee, lol theyre his guardians i guess.

anyways, 5kz is 2021 dubai korea pavillion ambassadors now and the event will be held in this oct to march next year, there will be weekly performances of kpop idols including 5kz of course
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idk about u guys but this is pretty big
 






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YES I noticed this too bc I started noticing these things in kpop groups and I didn’t want to look into stray kids at first bc after being introduced I was weirdly obsessed (maybe not obsessed but I started watching a bunch of edits and things like that which I never do bc being a “fan” of an artist or people is not something I do) but anyways

In the dance that hy0nj1n did to the play with fire song I noticed that he had put up
View attachment 58497View attachment 58498
And also i don’t think I’m rlly stretching but I felt like this was some one eye symbol thing right here but when he put up the It was during like fire cackling sounds and I felt it was random

I honestly didn’t rlly like this video but what are you guys thoughts?
the poses and dance moves are so suggestive. theres a picture by st4ys saying that they saw hj in a restaurant and his hair seems to be blonde, but they still dont know of its really him or not since the pict is far away, but if he rlly does goes blonde, my prediction is accurate, im dissappointed, and im not surprised.

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they’re lowkey laughing
theyre besties 4lyfeeerrrr

also, guys, i wanna know if u guys watch ch4n's room? i saw it on ig a lot and it seems so boring and messy, and i hate everytime he becomes fake deep and wise giving advices and stuff like that, and the stuff he said is not rlly that good and so basic, like a tumblr quote or something, like "dont be sad, no matter what youre feeling, it will go away, lets be happy together, im here for you" and depression rates decreases to 0.sorry if im being rude, but his vlive is so boring and st4ys anticipate it everytime and for what? to watch a grown man listening to songs? and theres this one time he literally unboxes a mouse....a computer mouse....and then he said "i dont know if its going to be good, i will try it and then i will give you guys an update" and i was like is this a tech channel? am i watching a tech review? this has nothing to do with whatever shit they do. or am i missing the point of what a vlive is? like what made him think that st4ys, a bunch of teenage girls, cares about a computer mouse?
 






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its the same old concept either, i can like list 20 groups who have had the same concept. and yes, i still believe theyre not at all mighty and how the fans said like "oh jaywhypee is scared of them" like what? how do u know? theyre literally under his and the manager's control. if they are so mighty, they wouldve left jaywhypee and make their own company like got7 does because of how bad the company treats them, literally ALL of jaywhypee's idols doesnt like how he treats them and demands to leave the company because theyre not allowed to do anything under certain circumstances and that is to get the permissiom first. all of these idols leaving and destroying jaywhypee and then theres b4ng ch4n getting mad at st4ys because the company's wifi is shit and telling them not to blame jaywhypee, lol theyre his guardians i guess.

anyways, 5kz is 2021 dubai korea pavillion ambassadors now and the event will be held in this oct to march next year, there will be weekly performances of kpop idols including 5kz of course
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idk about u guys but this is pretty big
ah of course, they didn't invent this "concept"

idk what's this all about but kpop=promo tho I'm not mocking but where does 34 million come from? anyways
 






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also, guys, i wanna know if u guys watch ch4n's room? i saw it on ig a lot and it seems so boring and messy, and i hate everytime he becomes fake deep and wise giving advices and stuff like that, and the stuff he said is not rlly that good and so basic, like a tumblr quote or something, like "dont be sad, no matter what youre feeling, it will go away, lets be happy together, im here for you" and depression rates decreases to 0.sorry if im being rude, but his vlive is so boring and st4ys anticipate it everytime and for what? to watch a grown man listening to songs? and theres this one time he literally unboxes a mouse....a computer mouse....and then he said "i dont know if its going to be good, i will try it and then i will give you guys an update" and i was like is this a tech channel? am i watching a tech review? this has nothing to do with whatever shit they do. or am i missing the point of what a vlive is? like what made him think that st4ys, a bunch of teenage girls, cares about a computer mouse?
I don't watch but I still wonder if the hype this group gets would be the same if this weekly vlive episode didn't exist. It's about the whole persona, we could make a big study of and the effects are clear ahem . Even if the advices are tumblry like u said haha people will still hold on to any bit of "comfort" they find and automatically see it as sincere. But I've seen people wondering how can people sit thru any kind of vlive so fortunately not all of them are that hyped and excited to strictly follow a routine to excitedly share it with their fellow fans on twitter or else esp. that a lot don't understand what is being said, even if there might be live translation and the host speaks english sometimes
 






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the lyrics for "all in" just reminds me of satan who wanna bring everyone into the hellfire

Ah, 2020 We're gonna get 'em
Stray Kids in the building
We're gonna go all in
Just do whatever we want
HoIla at y'all
Ey, let's go



fire and all. Anyways no need for me to analyze every lyric but it is about do whatever you want
two of the writers are jyp and 3racha

p.s: If you do not feel shame, do what you wish
 






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the lyrics for "all in" just reminds me of satan who wanna bring everyone into the hellfire

Ah, 2020 We're gonna get 'em
Stray Kids in the building
We're gonna go all in
Just do whatever we want
HoIla at y'all
Ey, let's go



fire and all. Anyways no need for me to analyze every lyric but it is about do whatever you want
two of the writers are jyp and 3racha

p.s: If you do not feel shame, do what you wish
thou what you wilt concept, a classic.

I don't watch but I still wonder if the hype this group gets would be the same if this weekly vlive episode didn't exist. It's about the whole persona, we could make a big study of and the effects are clear ahem . Even if the advices are tumblry like u said haha people will still hold on to any bit of "comfort" they find and automatically see it as sincere. But I've seen people wondering how can people sit thru any kind of vlive so fortunately not all of them are that hyped and excited to strictly follow a routine to excitedly share it with their fellow fans on twitter or else esp. that a lot don't understand what is being said, even if there might be live translation and the host speaks english sometimes
fr, they can just say any meaningless shit and the fans would say that they helped them though their depression or something, which i doubt they have, this generation is too dramatic when it comes to mental health, they feel sad for a couple of days and call it depression. but the more sad and low ur energy are, the more vulnerable you are, thus why kpop stans have this massive, creepy, way of stanning an idol. if this guy dont do his weekly vlive for just a week, st4ys would be sad, like they just lost something important, saying "i miss him" you could literally look up pictures of him on google and call it a day, theyre turning into 4rmys and i find st4ys everywhere now, theyre rlly creepy, do they even know that their behaviour is disgusting?
 






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thou what you wilt concept, a classic.


fr, they can just say any meaningless shit and the fans would say that they helped them though their depression or something, which i doubt they have, this generation is too dramatic when it comes to mental health, they feel sad for a couple of days and call it depression. but the more sad and low ur energy are, the more vulnerable you are, thus why kpop stans have this massive, creepy, way of stanning an idol. if this guy dont do his weekly vlive for just a week, st4ys would be sad, like they just lost something important, saying "i miss him" you could literally look up pictures of him on google and call it a day, theyre turning into 4rmys and i find st4ys everywhere now, theyre rlly creepy, do they even know that their behaviour is disgusting?
this is just fake love, most of them just care about fangirling and wanna satiate their eyes bc they (as we all know, this is no secret) love the persona they are watching (esp. the outer beauty until they feel it as a true connection and bond, but it is an illusion) and it's kinda worse if they know that it's a mere fake personality but still weirdly obssess over bc if it was a movie or a series then the whole world knows that it's acting but the way celebrities act irl is presented as the truth although what is hidden is a big lie but it somewhat ends up as a unidimensional existence, either 100% good or 100% bad

So we can say that it's an eye for an eye. Neither the artists love their fans like they pretend nor the fans love their favs as they say.

if this guy dont do his weekly vlive for just a week, st4ys would be sad, like they just lost something important, saying "i miss him"
hilarious when they write "i'm sad ))))): but their health is more important ))))): "
I didn't dive into their intention but I have yet to meet someone who doesn't prioritize what they're fangirling to, maybe it would be easy to differentiate?

sorry but it just sounds like they are saying the most humane things while they are winking at each other, in the fandom, hoping to get a reward from their fav bc they expressed how they care about him/her.

I admit what I said sounds condescending
 






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the poses and dance moves are so suggestive. theres a picture by st4ys saying that they saw hj in a restaurant and his hair seems to be blonde, but they still dont know of its really him or not since the pict is far away, but if he rlly does goes blonde, my prediction is accurate, im dissappointed, and im not surprised.


theyre besties 4lyfeeerrrr

also, guys, i wanna know if u guys watch ch4n's room? i saw it on ig a lot and it seems so boring and messy, and i hate everytime he becomes fake deep and wise giving advices and stuff like that, and the stuff he said is not rlly that good and so basic, like a tumblr quote or something, like "dont be sad, no matter what youre feeling, it will go away, lets be happy together, im here for you" and depression rates decreases to 0.sorry if im being rude, but his vlive is so boring and st4ys anticipate it everytime and for what? to watch a grown man listening to songs? and theres this one time he literally unboxes a mouse....a computer mouse....and then he said "i dont know if its going to be good, i will try it and then i will give you guys an update" and i was like is this a tech channel? am i watching a tech review? this has nothing to do with whatever shit they do. or am i missing the point of what a vlive is? like what made him think that st4ys, a bunch of teenage girls, cares about a computer mouse?
what does it mean when they go blonde?
 






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stuff like this is what makes me thinks that they actually produce their songs, but with other producers collabing with them.

http://instagr.am/p/CRKJ-zWNVEV/
as much as i believe that they are controlled, i feel like the company gave 3r4cha freedom to create anything as long as its good.

what does it mean when they go blonde?
that means theyre reprogrammed, their hair will get blonde or fried because of the heavy shock and electrocution they have to endure, so if u see anyone in the entertainment industry having blonde hair, that means theyre probably done being reprogrammed.

this is just fake love, most of them just care about fangirling and wanna satiate their eyes bc they (as we all know, this is no secret) love the persona they are watching (esp. the outer beauty until they feel it as a true connection and bond, but it is an illusion) and it's kinda worse if they know that it's a mere fake personality but still weirdly obssess over bc if it was a movie or a series then the whole world knows that it's acting but the way celebrities act irl is presented as the truth although what is hidden is a big lie but it somewhat ends up as a unidimensional existence, either 100% good or 100% bad

So we can say that it's an eye for an eye. Neither the artists love their fans like they pretend nor the fans love their favs as they say.



hilarious when they write "i'm sad ))))): but their health is more important ))))): "
I didn't dive into their intention but I have yet to meet someone who doesn't prioritize what they're fangirling to, maybe it would be easy to differentiate?

sorry but it just sounds like they are saying the most humane things while they are winking at each other, in the fandom, hoping to get a reward from their fav bc they expressed how they care about him/her.

I admit what I said sounds condescending
reminds me of j4e from day6, he has a twitch acc where he does live streams, and one time he have said this "innapropriate" joke, joking to his friend saying "sugar daddy" and giving a bl*wj*b gesture in the game (he isnt the one doing it, but he control the character in the game to do it) and mind you he is an adult, he is like 30yo, and kfans cancelled him saying he is being innapropriate. and international day6 fans was okay with it, but since koreans are conservative, they cancelled j4e for it and he had to remove his twitch account.

i feel like it summed up what kpop fandoms are. they think their idols are pure, but once they do things that are out of their fake persona, they would lash out and being on denial about it, they dont like it when their babies are acting dirty while their mind is actually the one that is dirtier and beyond repair. the hypocrisy is real.
 






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I should have said this earlier but thank you guys so much for joining the thread (I thought it was going to be a flop) however, you guys really came through. I appreciate the active members and contributors as well as the quiet readers of this thread and how much we are respecting each other's opinions. I hope we keep it up and stay exposing =)
I’m glad that this thread is here! Thank you for starting it!
 






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