Red Sky at Morning
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There definitely seems to have been advanced civilisation (s) before a cataclysm took society back to square one.Yes some parts of Gensis are true. Are they true as they are described (or apparently described) in the bible? Who knows.
However if you look towards of antediluvian mythologies from various cultures around the globes it becomes pretty apparent that there was a creation before modern human and there was an advanced civilization on this planet before the younger dryas cataclysmic event.
Look at the Assyrian mythology and the Incan mythology, the Enuma Elish and Zep Tepi from the Egyptians.
Even the Jews say the book came with the oral tradition ie the wisdom explaining the intent. That it wasn't literal but metaphorical terminology.Yes.
Fact: 7 of every clean animal, 2 of every unclean, and this before the established Torah. So how did Noah know what was clean and unclean? YHVH must've told him.Do you take genesis literally ? I noticed most people are selective about what to take literally from it. And it's kind of understandable, there are some tough pills to swallow in it if we take everything literally. If we take all of it as allegory it kind of become confusing and raises even more questions. Usually Bible is quite clear about itself. There is dreams, visions ,interpretations, parables, prophecies. And there is history scrupulous with dates and chronology... However genesis is mysterious and and doesn't hint too much or even leaves some details out of story on purpose . So how you approach it and how you decide ? Some usually arguable topics i can think off the top of my head...I don't need specific answers about those, sure insights are welcome but i posted them just to help visualize and remember
Seven days
Eden
Trees and apples
Snake and his seed
Angels having sex with humans
Giants
Two or more of every kind on earth in boat
Tower of babel
Sodom and Gomorrah
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2018/09/11/science/generosity-apes-bonobos.amp.html
Bonobos display antecedent generosity behaviors
YES. The secret things belong to The Lord our God; but those things that are revealed belong unto us and our children forever...…………… (Deut. 29:29). All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for Doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction for righteousness, that the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works (2 Tim. 3:16-17)Do you take genesis literally ?
It is all the word of God...So what is your point. If you do not believe Scripture is true...Then you do not have Christ, because He confirms that Moses wrote The Book! (John 5:46)There is at least a few centuries separating the writing of Chapter 1 and Chapter 2. It was not written by Moses wandering in the desert. Come on now.
It is all the word of God...So what is your point. If you do not believe Scripture is true...Then you do not have Christ, because He confirms that Moses wrote The Book! (John 5:46)
I do not know this man, but I do know Christ...rather, Christ knows me. I only take Scripture as the Lord has drawn me to Himself. To show you how the Lord works with His elect, I had a friend I grew up with, I had not seen or heard from him for 40 years. A couple of weeks ago the Lord put it in my heart to pray for him. A week later, his daughter looked me up on Facebook and told me that Her father was very sick (he is not saved). I'am witnessing to him about the Lord. God is alive and working in His servants. Amen.
It’s true but not literal.It is all the word of God...So what is your point. If you do not believe Scripture is true...Then you do not have Christ, because He confirms that Moses wrote The Book! (John 5:46)
Ok.I do not know this man, but I do know Christ...rather, Christ knows me. I only take Scripture as the Lord has drawn me to Himself. To show you how the Lord works with His elect, I had a friend I grew up with, I had not seen or heard from him for 40 years. A couple of weeks ago the Lord put it in my heart to pray for him. A week later, his daughter looked me up on Facebook and told me that Her father was very sick (he is not saved). I'am witnessing to him about the Lord. God is alive and working in His servants. Amen.
Christ confirms all the OT Scriptures as actual and not mystical or allegoric in the NT. (including creation!) The Lord is coming by the whole of the Scriptures....Not by allegations! Scripture is not by private interpretation, You must be born again. I posted a study on the full Gospel of Jesus Christ and the Gospel of the Kingdom of heaven which was preached by Christ and the Apostles...yet no one understood it. Just because you don't understand it does not make the Scriptures untrue."No one, I think, can doubt that the statement that God walked in the afternoon in paradise and that Adam lay hidden under a tree is related figuratively in Scripture so that some mystical meaning may be indicated by it. The departure of Cain from the presence of the Lord will obviously cause a careful reader to inquire what is the presence of God, and how anyone can go out from it. "
-Origen
Funny you interjected on this-- I was reading about it just last night.There is at least a few centuries separating the writing of Chapter 1 and Chapter 2. It was not written by Moses wandering in the desert. Come on now.
You will never convince me to accept YEC ( an 150 year old idea from the whack job 7th Day Adventist’s) as it would require me to abandon all reason and logic and accept magical thinking which I will not. Literalism is a dangerous heresy and I will spend the rest of my life countering the damage done by fundamentalists.Christ confirms all the OT Scriptures as actual and not mystical or allegoric in the NT. (including creation!) The Lord is coming by the whole of the Scriptures....Not by allegations! Scripture is not by private interpretation, You must be born again. I posted a study on the full Gospel of Jesus Christ and the Gospel of the Kingdom of heaven which was preached by Christ and the Apostles...yet no one understood it. Just because you don't understand it does not make the Scriptures untrue.
Yes, I try and research all the information not just what supports my views.Funny you interjected on this-- I was reading about it just last night.
Just curious... have you read any exegesis on it, yourself?