Sex positivity is a scam

Lyfe

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Basically everything this culture has come to embrace and pursue are the very things that destroy the man and lead to an unfulfilled life and depression. The thief came to rob, steal, and destroy and he is the father of all lies.
 

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What about religious communities then? Aren't they supposed to wait until marriage.
Some people come to God later in life...and the people who grow up in the church sometimes do the wrong things.
 

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I suspect that woman probably doesnt even love herself and will go through life unable to love and to find love.
 

morita

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I suspect that woman probably doesnt even love herself and will go through life unable to love and to find love.
or maybe she grew up in an abusive household (might have witnessed her dad beating up her mother) and learned to associate abuse with love. That's how the cycle of abuse repeats itself.
 

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or maybe she grew up in an abusive household (might have witnessed her dad beating up her mother) and learned to associate abuse with love. That's how the cycle of abuse repeats itself.
2Tim 3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2Tim 3:2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
2Tim 3:3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
2Tim 3:4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
 

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Some people come to God later in life...and the people who grow up in the church sometimes do the wrong things.
I noticed some religious had very debaucherous life before "coming to god".
 

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I noticed some religious had very debaucherous life before "coming to god".
Could be...we are all sinners...not all converts were children who grew up in the church but people who were convicted later in life.
 

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Yes, the modern understanding of sex is a big problem and it encourages jumping from bed to bed like fleas jump from one cat to another cat but the other extreme is wrong too. Sexual intercourse should not take place outside of marriage. This is the Islamic perspective. However, some Christians I have engaged with have this understanding that sex is only for procreation and doing it to seek pleasure even in an marriage is sinful and this is illogical. This idea is promoted a lot in the writings of Henry Makow for exmaple.

Islaam does not look at sex for pleasure beween the spouses as something wrong but only when it is done outside of marriage. The Prophet salAlalhu alaiyhi wasallam said, "In the sexual act of each of you there is a sadaqa." The Companions replied: "0h Messenger of Allah When one of us fulfils his sexual desire, will he be given a reward for that?" And he said, "Do you not think that were he to act upon it unlawfully, he would be sinning? Likewise, if he acts upon it lawfully he will be rewarded." (Muslim)
 

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There's two extremes. There's the "if you have an erection you have sinned against God" school of thought and the "every abnormal and reckless sex act is okay, forget the fact that you could bring an unwanted child into the world or get a disease" school of thought. Both are wrong.
 

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This is what I believe is happening:

This poligamy and abnormal sexual age we are living in, I believe is the result of the dominant "world religion". You see, back then poligamy and multiple sexual partners were a thing at the cult of goddesses such as Astarte, Aphrodite, Venus and so many others. The "sacred prostitutes". Not to say that marriage wasn't a thing, but these women were held in a much larger status.

So this is how it becomes empowering, any girl who partakes in such depravacy helds the same status as a "sacred prostitute". It's part of the ruling religion. Meanwhile virginity, celibacy and monogamy were associated to the Catholic Church, that is losing space quickly, are now regarded as retrogade and as submission to the system.
 

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I like how everything gets blamed, except parents.

I think that women are smart enough to know that men don't really want to be with the village whore. Men want to have fun with her, then never call her again. And this all has nothing to do with the "icky" factor or DNA imprinting, but it simply has to do with embarrassment.

Imagine being at a social gathering where your partner slept with half the people there. They could be the most mature people on the planet, and you are still going to get awkward looks, suspicious stares, and blatant disrespect. Who wants to go through that? Nobody, especially considering it's easily avoidable.

Yes, sign me up to go to that party. It's probably a good idea to have some regular dude want to transform into Ip Man.

 

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I like how everything gets blamed, except parents.

I think that women are smart enough to know that men don't really want to be with the village whore. Men want to have fun with her, then never call her again. And this all has nothing to do with the "icky" factor or DNA imprinting, but it simply has to do with embarrassment.

Imagine being at a social gathering where your partner slept with half the people there. They could be the most mature people on the planet, and you are still going to get awkward looks, suspicious stares, and blatant disrespect. Who wants to go through that? Nobody, especially considering it's easily avoidable.

Yes, sign me up to go to that party. It's probably a good idea to have some regular dude want to transform into Ip Man.

That's the thing. Men put women in these madonna vs whore boxes based on their bodycount. I wonder what are the odds of men falling into the "madonna" category if the same rules applied to them??...spoiler: The majority would fall into the whore category hence the hyprocrisy of most men. It's the same hypocrisy regarding sex work, men create the demand and then put women down and disrepect them for providing the service.
 
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And women aren't smart, otherwise they would'nt tolerate the abuse from men and woudln't keep coming back for more.
 

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How about male prostitutes?
Do the same rules apply to rent boys?

Does virtual internet prostitution come in for the same censure?
Does flashing your gash for money on OnlyFans count?
 

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That's the thing. Men put women in these madonna vs whore boxes based on their bodycount. I wonder what are the odds of men falling into the "madonna" category if the same rules applied to them??...spoiler: The majority would fall into the whore category hence the hyprocrisy of most men. It's the same hypocrisy regarding sex work, men create the demand and then put women down and disrepect them for providing the service.
I agree with you to some extent.

When the roles have reversed the embarrassment, I spoke of still exists. It just doesn't have the same biting force. For a man-whore to be that much of an embarrassment, he would have to have a public STD scandal or something. Plus there's plenty of women who will go full IP Man a hoe dude for less.

It's much deeper than hypocrisy, though. Men don't have a lot of viable ways to compete. So the vagina becomes the universal trophy until someone smart tells them how stupid that sounds. Then it gets immediately thrown in the garbage. Rinse, wash and repeat for eternity. The point here is the best flex in the galaxy is to win over each other's brains. Not our dicks and vaginas.
 

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Prostitutes get a really bad opinion of the people they sell their bodies too.

A female prostitute will hate men, a rent boy will hate older men, a male escort will hate women.

This is because they are making a business of scamming these groups, and therefore despise them for getting scammed, while simultaneously needing them so they can provide income.

They sell fake relationships, fake attention, fake love.
Everything a pretense, everything fake.
Unsurprising that they end up despising their marks, and think that every one is like that.

Sad really.
 

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I don’t know. Ive found sex workers to be unusually honest and very respectful of treated with it.

Probably treated me with more respect than the women I’ve dated. ( I don’t attract what I want I attract what I am, Someone like me, someone like me can’t make it last )
They can be lovely people. But the job generally prevents them from having successful relationships.
 

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Yeah. A lot of people can’t have those and they do provide a service to people that might have relationship problems. I want them to unionize and have protections and be viewed as people. There is a reason serial killers target them.
I firmly believe it should be legalised.
It is a very dangerous profession, and I think that affects the people who do it.

Certainly the people I knew were affected by that aspect, and by the feeling that they had no other option.

But a lot of them had either sexual/emotional issues, or drug problems.
Usually both, tbh.
 
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