Seemingly Innocent Cartoons

moodychick

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I have posted this about this kids cartoon on here before. Never watched the trailer...where the main character says "I want to stay and become a witch like you."


It also show-cases the use of demon magic and conjuring.

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It seems the magic/occult themes is still a trend is cartoons despite the art style are similar to each other. Poor kids.
 

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How is this appropriate for kids? Not at all.
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I only watch Bugs Bunny, Daffy, Sylvester etc. from the Mel Blanc era. Its on Boomerang channel about 8 hours day.
 

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Margaret Wise Brown


"My World"
My World was out of print by the 1970s, and some have suggested that one scene in which a mother, father and child share a bathroom was scandalous for the time period.
*It may not be such a shock nowadays, but you have to consider that it depicts animals, not people--and that to some extent deceives the mind of an adult (animals are wild, they are allowed), but not a child who is forming associative bonds.


Mister Dog



"He liked strawberries":


Losing the Hat and the Call of Instincts
Soon he encounters the field of dogs, where he enjoys a brief carnivalesque moment as a dog again, running around as dogs do. During this sequence he loses his hat. Symbolically, the hat is often ‘the’ thing that separates humans from animals.



Isn't that too close and revealing? That look of a dog and a rosy-cheeked boy. A dog (male) and a human (boy) are getting to know each other. If the author had depicted an old lecher looking for young boys instead of a dog, the public would have taken a dim view of this "work. All it took was replacing one image with a "childish" one: the dog. Much had been taught to Brown in private schools.



The dog in the house has a boy's bedroom:



The heart slippers, the signs on the quilt are lilies:

The dog (male) and the man (boy) live and sleep together.


Study:
1916-17 - ???
1923 - Brilliantmontboarding school in Lausanne, Switzerland
Founded in 1882, it is one of the oldest boarding schools in Switzerland, owned by the same family for five generations. The private boarding school ranks among the top 10 most expensive schools in the world.
1925 - The Kew-Forest School (Founder Louis D. Marriott)
(Private school founded 1918)
1926 - Dana Hall School in Wellesley, Massachusetts.
1928 - Hollins College in Roanoke, Virginia.
All schools private.
Jobs:
After receiving her B.A. in English from Hollins in 1932, Brown worked as a teacher and also studied art. While working at an experimental school on Bank Street in New York City, she began writing books for children.
Bank Street Experimental School in New York City
co-founder of Wesley Clair Mitchell
He's also the founder of the New School and the New School for Social Research.

Friend
While at Hollins, she was briefly engaged, dated for a time with an unknown "nice, quiet man from Virginia," had an extended affair with William Gaston, and had a summer romance with Preston Schoyer. In the summer of 1940, Brown began a long-term relationship with Blanche Olrix, poet, playwright, actress, and former wife of John Barrymore. The relationship, which began as a mentoring relationship, eventually became a romantic one and included living together at 10 Gracie Square in Manhattan beginning in 1943.
Brown went by various nicknames in various circles of friends. To her high school friends Dana and Hollins, she was "Tim" because her hair was the color of Timothy Hay. To her Bank Street friends, she was "Brownie." For William Gaston, she was "Goldie," in keeping with Golden MacDonald's use of "Little Island" as the author.

Works
Little Fluffy Family.
The Runaway Bunny.
The illustrations alternate between 2-page black and white line images and accompanying text, and 2-page coloring spreads. A similar alternation of black-and-white and coloring spreads is found in all three books in the series (depending on the year the books were published)
The final line of "Eat a Carrot," a mother rabbit, was added after Ursula Nordstrom, director of Harper's Books for Boys and Girls, told Brown that the ending needed work.

Girlfriend:
Who is Ursula? - Ursula Nordstrom (February 2, 1910 - October 11, 1988) was publisher and editor-in-chief of juvenile books at Harper & Row from 1940 to 1973. She is credited with leading a transformation in children's literature in which moralizing stories written for adult approval gave way to works that instead appealed to children's imagination and emotions.[2]
She is also the author of the 1960 children's book The Secret Language.[3] A collection of her correspondence was published in 1998 as Dear Genius: Ursula Nordstrom's Letters.
There is much from the article below that the author has picked up that I couldn't find and collate in a day and a half, but here is an excerpt
Her book, titled "The Secret Language," is about Victoria, a lonely eight-year-old girl in the first grade at boarding school. She strikes up a friendship with a bug girl named Martha. Martha, of course, isn't as boochy as Harriet (she doesn't wear a tool belt), but she's tough, unruly, and in Mary Chalmers' illustrations, she gets a stylish, potty-mouthed haircut. Martha invents a secret language in which "ick-en-speak" means stupid and "ankedosh" - nasty. The most delightful thing is that the word by which everything cute is called - no kidding! - sounds like "lelebossa" and clearly begs to be an anagram of the word "lesbian." I don't think readers in 1960 noticed it, nor did the denouement of the story, the gist of which is that two girls build themselves a house. Even today, though the book is fascinating in its own way, it's hard to say what Nordstrom had in mind -- and besides, she burned the only copy of the sequel, "The Secret Choice," almost finishing it.

The book, which has just been published, was clearly intended to normalize already ordinary (even boring) families like ours. As usual, they replaced people with animals to tell us how much fun it is to have a couple of dads.
 

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Margaret Wise Brown


"My World"
My World was out of print by the 1970s, and some have suggested that one scene in which a mother, father and child share a bathroom was scandalous for the time period.
*It may not be such a shock nowadays, but you have to consider that it depicts animals, not people--and that to some extent deceives the mind of an adult (animals are wild, they are allowed), but not a child who is forming associative bonds.


Mister Dog



"He liked strawberries":


Losing the Hat and the Call of Instincts




Isn't that too close and revealing? That look of a dog and a rosy-cheeked boy. A dog (male) and a human (boy) are getting to know each other. If the author had depicted an old lecher looking for young boys instead of a dog, the public would have taken a dim view of this "work. All it took was replacing one image with a "childish" one: the dog. Much had been taught to Brown in private schools.



The dog in the house has a boy's bedroom:



The heart slippers, the signs on the quilt are lilies:

The dog (male) and the man (boy) live and sleep together.


Study:
1916-17 - ???
1923 - Brilliantmontboarding school in Lausanne, Switzerland
Founded in 1882, it is one of the oldest boarding schools in Switzerland, owned by the same family for five generations. The private boarding school ranks among the top 10 most expensive schools in the world.
1925 - The Kew-Forest School (Founder Louis D. Marriott)
(Private school founded 1918)
1926 - Dana Hall School in Wellesley, Massachusetts.
1928 - Hollins College in Roanoke, Virginia.
All schools private.
Jobs:
After receiving her B.A. in English from Hollins in 1932, Brown worked as a teacher and also studied art. While working at an experimental school on Bank Street in New York City, she began writing books for children.
Bank Street Experimental School in New York City
co-founder of Wesley Clair Mitchell
He's also the founder of the New School and the New School for Social Research.

Friend
While at Hollins, she was briefly engaged, dated for a time with an unknown "nice, quiet man from Virginia," had an extended affair with William Gaston, and had a summer romance with Preston Schoyer. In the summer of 1940, Brown began a long-term relationship with Blanche Olrix, poet, playwright, actress, and former wife of John Barrymore. The relationship, which began as a mentoring relationship, eventually became a romantic one and included living together at 10 Gracie Square in Manhattan beginning in 1943.
Brown went by various nicknames in various circles of friends. To her high school friends Dana and Hollins, she was "Tim" because her hair was the color of Timothy Hay. To her Bank Street friends, she was "Brownie." For William Gaston, she was "Goldie," in keeping with Golden MacDonald's use of "Little Island" as the author.

Works
Little Fluffy Family.
The Runaway Bunny.
The illustrations alternate between 2-page black and white line images and accompanying text, and 2-page coloring spreads. A similar alternation of black-and-white and coloring spreads is found in all three books in the series (depending on the year the books were published)
The final line of "Eat a Carrot," a mother rabbit, was added after Ursula Nordstrom, director of Harper's Books for Boys and Girls, told Brown that the ending needed work.

Girlfriend:
Who is Ursula? - Ursula Nordstrom (February 2, 1910 - October 11, 1988) was publisher and editor-in-chief of juvenile books at Harper & Row from 1940 to 1973. She is credited with leading a transformation in children's literature in which moralizing stories written for adult approval gave way to works that instead appealed to children's imagination and emotions.[2]
She is also the author of the 1960 children's book The Secret Language.[3] A collection of her correspondence was published in 1998 as Dear Genius: Ursula Nordstrom's Letters.
There is much from the article below that the author has picked up that I couldn't find and collate in a day and a half, but here is an excerpt
REALLY GOOD FINDINGS!
 

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Cannibalism in Greek Myths. An Experience in the History of Moral Development
Leopold Franzevich Voevodsky
We admire the exploits of Hercules and Odysseus, imagine the beauty of Helen of Troy and Medea, sail mentally with the Argonauts for the golden fleece. We are used to considering the myths of ancient Greece as a model of poetry, not only in form but also in content. However, most of the myths available to the general public are considerably abridged. In particular, they contain almost no mention of cannibalism.

Classical philologist L. F. Voevodsky (1846 - 1901) attempted to resolve the entire Homeric epic into a solar-moon-stellar myth and point to the myths as a source for restoring the ancient everyday history of the people.

The text was restored according to V.S. Balashev's edition of 1874, it was brought in conformity with the norms of modern Russian language, proof-reading and editorial corrections were made with maximum preservation of the author's style.
In Aeschylus there is even an appeal to the god Apollo: "Be to the enemy army a wolf (actually: a wolf)," that is, a terrible one. [188]
In undoubted connection with all this are also the tales of the transformation of men into wolves, tales which are especially frequent in the Arcadian myths of Zeus of Lycia, that is, "the wolf" (for - as has long been proved - not otherwise was this name understood by the Greeks themselves). [190]
Pausanias, speaking about the foundation of Lycoria, the most ancient city of Greece, according to the legend, cites a legend according to which the inhabitants of this city were rescued during Deucalion's deluge on Mount Parnassus "under the leadership of wolves". [191] By the same writer the following legend is also preserved: Danaius comes to Argos, wishing to seize the throne of Helanor, the tsar there. When people were hesitating which of them to prefer, a wolf appeared from somewhere and jumped onto the bull, who was at the head of the herd, and torn it apart. The people of Argos, likening Danaeus to the wolf and Helanor to the bull, resolved to give the throne to Danaeus. [192] The bodyguards of the tyrants wore the image of the wolf on their shields. [193] We even know that at many of the trials there were images of the "hero" Lycus, "who had the form of a wolf". [194] It is supposed that this wolf was none other than a "symbol" of Apollo himself [195] , as well as the wolf depicted on the coins of Argos [196] and the golden wolf in the temple of Delphi [197] . Here, perhaps, we should also include that "hero" Lycas in the Sicilian city of Temesa, about whom Pausanias informs us that he was depicted in wolf fur and that maidens were once sacrificed to him. [198]
There could be countless similar data confirming that the Greeks compared both themselves and their heroes to wolves. Not only that: even the ancient nicknames of the highest and just the most ancient deities [199] , Zeus (Λύχατος) and Apollo (Λύχετος, Λύχτος), are apparently so closely related to the concept of the wolf (λύχος) that, despite all efforts, scholars could not refute the deep significance of this connection [200] . C. O. Müller, speaking of Apollo, rightly observes that it is improbable that the wolf became a symbol of Apollo merely because of the casual resemblance of the word λύχος, "wolf," to λύχη, "light," as some have argued and still do. [201] That the concepts of "light" and "wolf" are both equally important in explaining the nature of both Apollo and Zeus seems to him unquestionable. He fails, however, to explain this connection of two apparently so different concepts, in spite of all the wit with which he presses for dualism in these deities. But if we allow that conclusion to which all the facts given above incline us, namely that the Greeks once called themselves wolves, that the wolf was the highest ideal of mankind, that the name "wolf" was once considered the best praise which one could think of, then all the difficulty disappears. Zeus and Apollo could be called wolf deities because they were deities of people who called themselves wolves. In addition, note that Zeus and Apollo are obviously deities of the sun. [202]
That the Greeks really had human sacrifices is, as has already been seen, beyond doubt. All scholars agree on this point. Waxmuth considers the existence of human sacrifices in the following cults to be quite certain: Zeus of Lycia in Arcadia, Artemis of Triclaria in Achaea, Artemis of Orphia on the island of Limna, Artemis of Taurica in Phocia, Demeter near the city of Potnia in Boeotia, Dionysus in Achaea, Zeus the "Devourer" in Thessaly, Zeus on the island of Crete, Amphitrite on the Lesvians, Dionysus "the eater of raw meat" on the Chiosians, Palemon and Dionysus on the island of Tenedes, and finally Apollo Leucat on the island of Leucadus. [408]
"Artemis" - "First women" goes down the rabbit hole

Adrenochrome -
 

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I never understood this whole thing with Jessica rabbit! She's not even a rabbit! She's a full human, so why is she even being called rabbit?? She looks dumb as anything, too. Over exaggerated breasts and butt sticking right out, with a teeny tiny waist? Is this what they want women to look like? Have our sexual areas sticking out for pleasure but we have to have no room to digest our food cause our waists have to be teeny? Doesn't make sense and never will. It also disgusts me that she's with an actual rabbit..Roger looks like an actual rabbit!! Really is a way to promote bestiality!!
Plus, this seems to be a thing for many animators!! They always make it where if it's a female character, she looks like an object! The males get the pass, they can look like beasts/animals whatever... But women? Have to be sexy!!
 

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I never understood this whole thing with Jessica rabbit! She's not even a rabbit! She's a full human, so why is she even being called rabbit?? She looks dumb as anything, too. Over exaggerated breasts and butt sticking right out, with a teeny tiny waist? Is this what they want women to look like? Have our sexual areas sticking out for pleasure but we have to have no room to digest our food cause our waists have to be teeny? Doesn't make sense and never will. It also disgusts me that she's with an actual rabbit..Roger looks like an actual rabbit!! Really is a way to promote bestiality!!
Plus, this seems to be a thing for many animators!! They always make it where if it's a female character, she looks like an object! The males get the pass, they can look like beasts/animals whatever... But women? Have to be sexy!!
Speaking of protruding sexual part. I wanted to mark it in an article. High-heeled shoes were created for men, in a medical term, forcing them to stand up straight. The shoes were worn later by the women, the men stopped, like the jewels, which served to mark the wealth of the person. Heeled shoes highlight the breasts and buttocks, the sexual parts.
 

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Speaking of protruding sexual part. I wanted to mark it in an article. High-heeled shoes were created for men, in a medical term, forcing them to stand up straight. The shoes were worn later by the women, the men stopped, like the jewels, which served to mark the wealth of the person. Heeled shoes highlight the breasts and buttocks, the sexual parts.
Oh, wow that is very interesting! Thanks for sharing that. Did not know they were originally for men! Must of still been so uncomfortable for them. This is true that women wear them for these reasons. I will still stay away from them no matter what cause they are overly uncomfortable. Won't hurt myself to be more beautiful lol!
I am still surprised by this, though! Didn't know about the men having them originally
 

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There's this movie called All Dogs Go To Heaven I don't know how many have seen it on here but it was filled with so much symbolism and grooming propaganda. If it's not bad enough, the main orphan girl in then movie, who is maybe around 5 or so, gets kidnapped by the evil dog, then when she's rescued by the main character dogs, there's a scene where she's trying on short dresses infront of the mirror, and even flashes the dogs with her underwear at one point! That's disgusting. Promoting the p*do agenda with bestiality. This is so great for kids, isn't it? Plus, they even show the devil at one point! When watching it last time, I got this terrible feeling, like something was off. Seemed demonic.
 

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This seems like a calming, soothing children’s stop animation version of “The Wind in The Willows.”

There are hints of Masonic type expectations in the animal aristocracy but take a look at “Pan”, out of nowhere at the 1:01:40 mark:

 

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This seems like a calming, soothing children’s stop animation version of “The Wind in The Willows.”

There are hints of Masonic type expectations in the animal aristocracy but take a look at “Pan”, out of nowhere at the 1:01:40 mark:

I don't have time to watch the whole movie. Note that the willow tree as well as Pan are related to Artemis.
 
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