Secular Music: Demonic Influence?

IWSS

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Of course it is. Lucifer was the Angel of music and embodiment of music in heaven. This was mentioned in Ezekiel.

You might guys want to check John Todd's revelation about the music industry were Luciferians/Illuminists/Satanists run the music industry.
 

TonyVanDam

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Do you guys believe that secular music contains demonic entities that influence us subconsciously?
All secular music? No.
Some secular music? Yes, there are some cases that certain sounds [specifically certain chords arrangements] that can produce negative/demonic energy.
 

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Luciferians/Illuminists/Satanists run the music industry
Yes, that's true.
But that doesn't mean that every singe piece of music is demonic. There are non satanic people who make music. (they're probably more independent artists not connected to the music industry)
 

IWSS

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Yes, that's true.
But that doesn't mean that every singe piece of music is demonic. There are non satanic people who make music. (they're probably more independent artists not connected to the music industry)
Hell yeah. Mostly mainstream music/media/artists spread this shit. This has been mentioned and covered countless of times by VC.
 

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Some of you have your tinfoil's screwed on a bit too tight. Not all music is 'demonic', that's patently a ridiculous statement. If you truly believe in such nonsense you should go join the Taleban or some other anti-life group... and because a person uses a forum avatar with a picture of a cat does not make him a ***** Illuminati kitten programming agent. Get a grip.

Wow, this was sad. :-(
 

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The moment you begin to question why it REALLY is you decided to make an avatar with a cat head, is the moment you may begin to reclaim the human body who you were originally. If you never even question it more than thinking you did it simply because you "own" a cat and like funny cat pictures, than you will remain who you currently are...which is, in my expert opinion, not who you were originally.

I believe you are someone who has been placed on this board as a plant and a propagandist to stamp out anyone who claims technology or music or whatever related to the mental/female realms is NOT being used for negative purposes, when it certainly IS in many instances.

Someone asks if music is possibly being used as a demonic influence (through the actual technology) and rather than respond with something like "anything is possible and I don't know for sure what is really going on", you blankly respond with "no". You are a plant and you are being controlled for purposes beyond your understanding.
There are real conspiracies and theories and actual people worried about them and studying them and educating others

then there are delusional people who think each and everything just HAS to be some sort of agenda
get a grip
 

TonyVanDam

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Really? Can you source that because that's very interesting.
The technique is as old as Wolfgang Mozart. It all boils down to play certain chords at a certain time to get a certain reaction from the listening audience. Remember, music is also about a feel.
 

Mr.Grieves

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And here the biggest road-block for any kind of meaningful discourse on these matters presents itself: the No Man's Land where theory, speculation, belief and delusion intersect. Something everyone who visits this site should know/acknowledge is that many of the ideas/opinions expressed appeal to madness. I'm not saying 'everyone who believes in this stuff is crazy!' by any stretch; I personally, in spite of being an atheist and a general skeptic, can't ignore the obvious ideological patterns forming in our media, and am willing to entertain and explore the idea that this is the intentional work of moguls caught up in some twisted belief-system/pseudo-religious 'Old Boy's Club', even to the extent that there may well be some dark cabal of Satanistic scumbags in charge (really, how else does one explain BRATZ dolls?)

That said, when someone develops a real, debilitating psychosis, whether as a result of a strong manic-phase from someone with Bi-Polar disorder or conditions such as schizophrenia, their minds reach and grope for any explanation that can make sense of what they're feeling, typically through an adversarial force. They go to the internet, and the first grand enough explanation they find that accounts for their feelings/experiences and acknowledges them as real BECOMES their reality. I watched this process, to my great sadness, unfold with a client of mine- who, due to undiagnosed illness, went from a reasonable, self-sufficient single mother to a forced resident of our local psychiatric hospital. She began hearing voices, experiencing hallucinations, was receiving text-messages from her stillborn son, really horrible, horrible stuff... and explaining this all to herself as a coordinated effort of the Illuminati and Aliens. When I went to visit her, she begged me to contact a 'Dr. Greers' so she could join his research team several times while in-hospital, 'Greers' I later learned being a YouTube Alien theorist.

I'm not implying everyone on here expressing 'out there' opinions is psychotic/mentally ill or anything of the sort. I'm just saying we have to be aware of and consider the simple fact that, when discussing issues on the fringes of mainstream thought, a bit of crazy will forever find its way into the discourse. We shouldn't judge or rail against it too harshly, but we also should be careful not to let it take the reins... or else we're all just blowing bubbles against brick walls.
 

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It all boils down to play certain chords at a certain time to get a certain reaction from the listening audience. Remember, music is also about a feel.
Sure, it can make you feel a certain way, but it is truly demonic? Is a sound enough to allow a demon to take over or influence a person's mind?
 

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Do you guys believe that secular music contains demonic entities that influence us subconsciously?

Yes. Study how "sacred" (read as mystic, or occult) music is derived at. There are certain elements included to produce an effect. The note "F" or "G" (can't remember which right now) is said to be ideal in the "sacred music" realm, for some reason.

I use music at school to calm kids, or produce some other emotion. A good one is "You've Got a Friend in Me." I use this to "brainwash" the kids into liking each other!
 

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I use music at school to calm kids, or produce some other emotion. A good one is "You've Got a Friend in Me." I use this to "brainwash" the kids into liking each other!
Good one! Does it work? Lol!
 

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Yes it does with the elementary ages-although at this time of year, the 5th graders are really more 6th grade mentality, so they're getting a little hardened, which is sad.
I use anything I can to bring order and peace in the classroom! :)

But really, the study of music and its influences for good or evil is super-interesting.
 

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BTW: the kids are at gym class, so I can do this for only a few more minutes! :rolleyes:
 

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What is going on in this thread? Do I have to separate you boys? o_O (Mecca and Truthor)
 

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Yes it does with the elementary ages-although at this time of year, the 5th graders are really more 6th grade mentality, so they're getting a little hardened, which is sad.
I use anything I can to bring order and peace in the classroom! :)

But really, the study of music and its influences for good or evil is super-interesting.
Any song is torture in the right context and with enough repitition. Everything from Queen's 'We are the Champions' to the Barney theme 'I love you' have been used by the US government as 'noise-torture'.
 

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What is going on in this thread? Do I have to separate you boys? o_O (Mecca and Truthor)
I'm not a boy. And idk what's wrong with that guy. He just comes at me with random accusations so I told him he was wrong.
 
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