Satanic "Progressivism"

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If you still think this stuff is cool, you have to be really blind or really evil....

 





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Police shootings?

What does that have to do with Leftists openly promoting terrorism?

I don't care if conservatives "virtue signal" on social media condemning.... whatever it is you're wanting them to virtue signal on. If a person threatens me with violence for political reasons that's way more serious to me than..... whatever it is they do with their social media accounts.

Police shootings are not part of everyday life. Go to the projects and see if you can observe any police shootings. Real life isn't NWA songs.
I'm telling you that neither liberals or conservatives are on the side of God. Only the Luciferian Illuminati are. You can spin doctor reality all you want. Politicians are like our play toys.

They all fall before the might of our true God. Lucifer.
 





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I'm telling you that neither liberals or conservatives are on the side of God. Only the Luciferian Illuminati are. You can spin doctor reality all you want. Politicians are like our play toys.

They all fall before the might of our true God. Lucifer.
Your points are noted.

However, I am not supporting politicians. I am in support of particular positions.
 





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Liberals refuse to condemn bestiality, now call it ‘interspecies romance’

https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/...n-bestiality-now-call-it-interspecies-romance

The Huffington Post described Brenner thusly:
Brenner is a thinking person’s zoophile. He draws a careful distinction between zoophiles and mere bestialists, noting in “Dolphin Lover” that the latter “might just have sex with an animal and walk away,” while the former “is someone who has tender or caring emotions for their animal partner.”​
 





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It is a good rule after reading a new book, never to allow yourself another new one till you have read an old one in between.​
C.S. Lewis
If I were a "progressive," I think it would make sense from that standpoint to restrict people's access to old books. They seem very keen on restricting people's access to information and keeping their people inside of a bubble.

I believe they do not respect the past, their ancestors and the wisdom of older generations. The more deeply you are connected to those who came before you, the further you will move away from "progressivism".
 





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Shows you these folks (the ones at the website, not the ones being discussed) are onto something:

THE LUCIFERIAN LEFT
The whole pack of them are working for Hell.

The Left, all of it — entertainment media, politicians, Hollywood studio liberals, screenwriters, actors, college professors and administrators, NGO's, social justice warriors, liberal philanthropists, nutty philosophers, news media, warped sociologists, man-caused climate change cheerleaders, music industry executives, mind-rot authors, atheist scientists, you name it — the whole lot of them and anyone else who would fit under the anti-God umbrella, they collectively comprise the Luciferian Left. And that is to say the ruling elites of the culture who reject God and morality and seek to destroy any vestige of decency left in society.

https://www.churchmilitant.com/video/episode/vortex-the-luciferian-left
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and links.

As others said, the right-wing is also anti-christ in their own way.

I agree with your basic argument though- the progressive social agenda is not natural or sensible- it's not even human.

What I loathe most of all is the gay/trans agenda shoved in our faces. They tell us that 1-3% of the population is actually 10%. You hear their voices constantly, it's honestly difficult to escape. I have to wonder if it isn't part of a larger agenda, knowing how deeply religious people are repulsed by this mental disease.

It's tough because the dems are the only ones talking about economic reforms.

Are there US conservatives who promote liberal/social economic policies?
 





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Thanks for sharing your thoughts and links.

As others said, the right-wing is also anti-christ in their own way.

I agree with your basic argument though- the progressive social agenda is not natural or sensible- it's not even human.

What I loathe most of all is the gay/trans agenda shoved in our faces. They tell us that 1-3% of the population is actually 10%. You hear their voices constantly, it's honestly difficult to escape. I have to wonder if this isn't part of a larger agenda, knowing how deeply religious people are repulsed by this mental disease.

It's tough because the dems are the only ones talking about economic reforms.

Are there US conservatives who promote liberal/social economic policies?
The right-wing is anti-Christ?

No, it is not. That is not true.

The right-wing and the left-wing are terms that come from the French Revolution. The French Revolution was out to destroy religion in France and murder priests. It was promoted by Freemasons.

The left-wing was the people who supported the French Revolution and the right-wing was opposed to the French Revolution.

We're talking about a revolution that was out to destroy religion and murder priests. It's pretty clear which side was right- the right.

So wishing to defend religion is not wrong. We must not ever think that way or accept such a premise. It would be a victory for the people who are against religion.

Stripped to the essence, the right-wing is about defending religion and the left is about getting rid of religion.

No way can a person really be conservative and be anti-Christ.

A person may be a politician and may be crooked and yet claim they are "conservative".... however, that is the politician that is harmed- not traditional values or conservative principles.

Now you do have your "free-market" types who I think often are atheists..... Ayn Rand types..... who are supposedly "right-wing".... but what I'm in favor of is not Ayn Rand types nor the Republican Party (although I prefer them over the Democrats).... but certain, intangible, abstract principles.

For me, it's about ideas not people. It's not even about me. I myself don't even live up to my own ideals at times. But it's not about me- it's about ideas and not individuals. If we accept that the Ayn Rand types are right-wing (I really don't see them as right-wing), we might argue there are anti-Christ ring-wing types maybe.... but right-wing in itself is not anti-Christ. It's actually the correct position in regards to the French Revolution where those terms originate.

Now as far as socialist economics..... so are you saying you're a leftist in terms of economics and a social conservative? You know, I think that is a viewpoint and I think that people should have that option. I don't think you have to accept (allegedly) "right-wing" economics and social conservatism or "leftist" economics and leftist social views- I think a person can have other options.

I have no particular opinion on economics. The (allegedly) "right-wing" economics are neo-liberal economics and the leftist economics are further left. I want to research alternatives. I don't trust either of those.

I am not remotely a liberal. Liberalism to my understanding came from the so-called Enlightenment. I am not for the Enlightenment... at all. If you believe in the Quran or the Bible- in neither do I believe that they support liberalism. I think liberalism was not even a thing in either the days of the Quran or the Bible and is completely alien to those books. Whether you believe Jesus (PBUH) was a Prophet or the Son of God, I think liberalism would be completely alien to him. Questioning liberalism (I am referring to "Enlightenment" liberalism) can be sort of unthinkable for people from Western backgrounds... but this is because it is part of the culture of Westerners, not because it is anything that comes the Bible. This became part of Western culture when Europeans began rebelling against God and religion. It's not a positive thing. It's a part of what makes Western culture toxic. I am not attacking Europe but one has to understand when dealing with Western culture- Europe and Western culture (with the exception maybe of China and I think maybe Japan) are pretty much at the forefront of atheism and rejection of God.

I am not saying that Western culture is inherently wrong or a bad thing. But its current form is wrong and bad. It should be reformed to be in line with God. And until it is reformed, its influence should be limited and not be spread.
 





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Ecclesiastes 10:2 A wise man's heart directs him toward the right, but the foolish man's heart directs him toward the left.

Matthew 25:31 “But when the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the angels with Him, then He will sit on His glorious throne. 32 “All the nations will be gathered before Him; and He will separate them from one another, as the shepherd separates the sheep from the goats; 33 and He will put the sheep on His right, and the goats on the left. 34 “Then the King will say to those on His right, ‘Come, you who are blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.
 





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The right-wing is anti-Christ?

No, it is not. That is not true.

The right-wing and the left-wing are terms that come from the French Revolution. The French Revolution was out to destroy religion in France and murder priests. It was promoted by Freemasons.

The left-wing was the people who supported the French Revolution and the right-wing was opposed to the French Revolution.

We're talking about a revolution that was out to destroy religion and murder priests. It's pretty clear which side was right- the right.

So wishing to defend religion is not wrong. We must not ever think that way or accept such a premise. It would be a victory for the people who are against religion.

Stripped to the essence, the right-wing is about defending religion and the left is about getting rid of religion.

No way can a person really be conservative and be anti-Christ.

A person may be a politician and may be crooked and yet claim they are "conservative".... however, that is the politician that is harmed- not traditional values or conservative principles.

Now you do have your "free-market" types who I think often are atheists..... Ayn Rand types..... who are supposedly "right-wing".... but what I'm in favor of is not Ayn Rand types nor the Republican Party (although I prefer them over the Democrats).... but certain, intangible, abstract principles.

For me, it's about ideas not people. It's not even about me. I myself don't even live up to my own ideals at times. But it's not about me- it's about ideas and not individuals. If we accept that the Ayn Rand types are right-wing (I really don't see them as right-wing), we might argue there are anti-Christ ring-wing types maybe.... but right-wing in itself is not anti-Christ. It's actually the correct position in regards to the French Revolution where those terms originate.

Now as far as socialist economics..... so are you saying you're a leftist in terms of economics and a social conservative? You know, I think that is a viewpoint and I think that people should have that option. I don't think you have to accept (allegedly) "right-wing" economics and social conservatism or "leftist" economics and leftist social views- I think a person can have other options.

I have no particular opinion on economics. The (allegedly) "right-wing" economics are neo-liberal economics and the leftist economics are further left. I want to research alternatives. I don't trust either of those.

I am not remotely a liberal. Liberalism to my understanding came from the so-called Enlightenment. I am not for the Enlightenment... at all. If you believe in the Quran or the Bible- in neither do I believe that they support liberalism. I think liberalism was not even a thing in either the days of the Quran or the Bible and is completely alien to those books. Whether you believe Jesus (PBUH) was a Prophet or the Son of God, I think liberalism would be completely alien to him. Questioning liberalism (I am referring to "Enlightenment" liberalism) can be sort of unthinkable for people from Western backgrounds... but this is because it is part of the culture of Westerners, not because it is anything that comes the Bible. This became part of Western culture when Europeans began rebelling against God and religion. It's not a positive thing. It's a part of what makes Western culture toxic. I am not attacking Europe but one has to understand when dealing with Western culture- Europe and Western culture (with the exception maybe of China and I think maybe Japan) are pretty much at the forefront of atheism and rejection of God.

I am not saying that Western culture is inherently wrong or a bad thing. But its current form is wrong and bad. It should be reformed to be in line with God. And until it is reformed, its influence should be limited and not be spread.
I see. What I was saying was in one sense is who cares about religious affiliation if "Christian" senators and uniformed voters endorse foreign policies that destroy lives elsewhere. What's worse- allowing gays in the military (which I find to be a hilarious oxymoron) or destabilizing entire nations like Iraq, Syria, and Palestine- which the right and left both support fully?

Still I'm with you on exposing the luciferian/devilish nature of the cultural "progressives". They are the enemies of God. Possessed, rabid, deranged, are perfectly accurate descriptions for their demeanor and intentions.
 





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I see. What I was saying was in one sense is who cares about religious affiliation if "Christian" senators and uniformed voters endorse foreign policies that destroy lives elsewhere. What's worse- allowing gays in the military (which I find to be a hilarious oxymoron) or destabilizing entire nations like Iraq, Syria, and Palestine- which the right and left both support fully?

Still I'm with you on exposing the luciferian/devilish nature of the cultural "progressives". They are the enemies of God. Possessed, rabid, deranged, are perfectly accurate descriptions for their demeanor and intentions.
Well of course we agree as far as "progressives".

However, as I said earlier- I support postions, not politicians.

Conservatism in itself is right. To point to what "conservative" politicians do and to say it discredits conservativism is like pointing at behavior by Christians and saying it discredits Christianity.

The "conservative" politicians don't necessarily represent actual conservatism or even the conservative masses in places like the South.

What you're refering to is the "neoconservatives". They're an "endless wars for Israel" faction.

Really you're referring to Zionist "conservatives". Those are people who claim conservatism to win votes and who really serve Zionism. What they do should be pinned on Zionism, not conservatism.

There is nothing in conservatism itself that supports letting Zionists do 9/11 and then invading Iraq. If we were really to study the foundations of conservatism- actual conservatism- and write out what conservatism means, nowhere would it say "fake a terrorist attack and then invade Iraq".

There is an anti-Zionist right. You have Zionists who claim they're "right-wing" but I don't think it's actually the most authentically right-wing position and I think it's actually a 20th century phenomena. If you study right-wing thought prior to the 20th century...... a lot of it would be considered "anti-semitic". "Right-wingers" being Zionists is a new phenomena. Traditional right-wing thought would actually tend towards "anti-semitism," not Zionism. The fact that Zionists have subverted alleged "conservatism" is not a critique of conservatism but is really just a demonstration that the Jews really do have an insane amount of influence.
 





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I'm a leftist. Specifically, an anarchist. If the abomination of the State has to exist at all, it shouldn't have any say in what people do in private lives and should focus on helping people that can't help themselves and should ensure that capitalism's cruelty is limited; if you work you should have the basic necessities to survive; food, shelter, medicine...

I don't believe in "gender roles". I don't care if Jack and Jim want to live together and dedicate their lives to each other. I don't care in John wants to live his life as Jane. Every human being is a free-willed individual and as long as their actions don't cause physical harm to other people, they are free to live their life as they see fit.

I think feminism can be a good thing. I believe anything seeking equality for humans, that believes in tearing down barriers is a good thing... And feminism does help men since it helps dispell the illusion that masculinity has anything to do with being a brute.

I'm also a Christian. I believe in Jesus Christ. I believe in following His teachings; feed the hungry, clothe the naked, visit the sick and the imprisoned. I believe in loving God and I believe n loving my neighbor. Of course, I don't believe in rendering to Ceaser what is his... Because I believe this world belongs to God, not man.

But honestly... The leftism you see in mainstream media isn't real leftism. It's a perversion of it that exists in order to reinforce the capitalist regimes that rule this world and gives people who think there's something very wrong with this world something to fight for... And make sure they don't rock the boat.
 





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I'm a leftist. Specifically, an anarchist. If the abomination of the State has to exist at all, it shouldn't have any say in what people do in private lives and should focus on helping people that can't help themselves and should ensure that capitalism's cruelty is limited; if you work you should have the basic necessities to survive; food, shelter, medicine...

I don't believe in "gender roles". I don't care if Jack and Jim want to live together and dedicate their lives to each other. I don't care in John wants to live his life as Jane. Every human being is a free-willed individual and as long as their actions don't cause physical harm to other people, they are free to live their life as they see fit.

I think feminism can be a good thing. I believe anything seeking equality for humans, that believes in tearing down barriers is a good thing... And feminism does help men since it helps dispell the illusion that masculinity has anything to do with being a brute.

I'm also a Christian. I believe in Jesus Christ. I believe in following His teachings; feed the hungry, clothe the naked, visit the sick and the imprisoned. I believe in loving God and I believe n loving my neighbor. Of course, I don't believe in rendering to Ceaser what is his... Because I believe this world belongs to God, not man.

But honestly... The leftism you see in mainstream media isn't real leftism. It's a perversion of it that exists in order to reinforce the capitalist regimes that rule this world and gives people who think there's something very wrong with this world something to fight for... And make sure they don't rock the boat.
You might like (distorted) aspects of Christianity (Jesus wasn't talking about waging violent revolution, killing rich people- being rich isn't a sin in and of itself btw and Solomon was super insanely rich, should we murder King Solomon?- and then giving food to the poor) but you don't believe in the Bible, as you yourself acknowledge. You believe in anarchism and leftism and claiming you're a Christian when you don't actually believe in the Bible is really just a way to try to promote leftism and anarchism to religious people... so they can be pulled away from their religions and convert to a new religion (leftism).

Beneath all the rhetoric is an anti-religion agenda. That is the bottom line of leftism- pulling you away from God. That is the end-goal of leftism.
 





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Another thing... to use leftist terminology itself... is that anarchism is bourgeousie philosophy. Anarchism is extremely bourgeoisie, it is of the bourgeoisie. I could go into a whole discussion of why anarchism is a philosophy of the bourgeoisie and why the poor masses don't care about anarchism (they really don't) but I just want to note it for now so I can remember to discuss it later.
 





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Well I would have to say that I agree with almost everything you are saying here except to make Leftism a wholly white thing. I agree strongly that there are plenty of White Liberals who are pushing garbage to minorities, essentially enslaving them to the State in hopes of selling them their victim hood for votes. However there are PLENTY of Minorities who are completely and totally diluted by these philosophies and therefore push this upon their own Race.

You as a Black Man stating the things you have on this thread, are a tiny minority of Black People, who by and large 100% sell out to Leftism and the Democratic Platform. In fact for the most part if you were to stand up on a street corner as a Black Man and start speaking about how utterly Racist, and Godless the Left is and in any way Champion for a Conservative ideology, there is an extremely high chance that you would be shouted down and called all sorts of terrible things, like Uncle Tom and the like by your own Race.

Candace Owens is a perfect example of this, she is someone who left Leftism and became an outspoken Black Women for the Conservatives and she is constantly harassed, called an Uncle Tom, a sell out, and all sorts of other horrible things, simply for not bowing down to the Leftists Agendas. Pretty sure we will have someone chime in here and say she was bought off or some other nonsense to denounce her simply because she rejected being associated with Leftist ideologies.

I also agree that Leftism is the party that is Godless, personally I dont understand how anyone can align themselves with the Leftist worldview and still consider themselves a Christian or a Muslim. The basics of these Religions are wholly Anti-Left, especially in the Moral Arena. I would agree with you in what you said when you were speaking of how one can claim to be affiliated with some sort of Religion but they clearly can not believe what the texts of these Religions state and still support Leftist ideologies.

When it comes to Economic Policies I also can not comprehend the Leftists positions, they continually make these Faux Arguments that they are against the Government, however they are completely and totally pushing for a Economic System that increases the Governments size and scope and invades into all individuals personal freedom. Leftism essentially states that your individual freedom is beneath the collectives needs, and when I say collectives needs, what that really means is the STATES control. That to me is just insanity.

I want the least amount of Government interference in my life period. Less taxes (in fact I believe the IRS and FED need to be abolished, taxation is theft) less regulations on the Free Market ( Capitalism is the only system that has pulled people by the literal billions out of Poverty. As opposed to Socialism/Communism which has only thrown billions into Poverty), less restriction on movement ect ect ect. The Government is here to protect the Freedoms given by God to me, to defend the Country if war comes, and ensure the Nation remains Sovereign, aka its own Country that looks after the best interest of its citizens as opposed to the World or other Nations.

I can not believe we are on a site that is all about the NWO ect and we still have people pushing Anti-Religion, and Socialism/Communism when that is literally the agenda of the NWO. They want a Communist State, that is Pro-Lucifer, which is literally the opposite of a Capitalist Sovereign Nation where the individual overpowers the Collective and values God and Morality...

People are brainwashed and the Left is doing great in moving everyone, especially the younger generation right towards the Agendas of the NWO...
 





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You might like (distorted) aspects of Christianity (Jesus wasn't talking about waging violent revolution, killing rich people- being rich isn't a sin in and of itself btw and Solomon was super insanely rich, should we murder King Solomon?- and then giving food to the poor) but you don't believe in the Bible, as you yourself acknowledge. You believe in anarchism and leftism and claiming you're a Christian when you don't actually believe in the Bible is really just a way to try to promote leftism and anarchism to religious people... so they can be pulled away from their religions and convert to a new religion (leftism).

Beneath all the rhetoric is an anti-religion agenda. That is the bottom line of leftism- pulling you away from God. That is the end-goal of leftism.
To begin with, you're assuming I'm calling for violent revolution. I'm not and I'm fairly certain I've stated this more than once. If cooperation isn't voluntary, it isn't anarchism... It's just the State. I don't also appreciate you trying to judge my faith, although I'm not surprised.

And you'd also be surprised that I don't care all that much about recruiting religious people to anarchism... Especially here, since most of the religious people what a theocracy. But again... You're missing the point. You're either so damn caught up in the culture war, you're turning your back on people that could be your friends and allies, or you don't really care that the world is ruled by cruel authoritarians... You're just upset you're not wearing the jackboot.

If it's the former, stop looking at people who want to fight the same evil as you do as enemies just because they don't share all your views.