Roe V. Wade To be overturned

Lucy

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The Supreme Court recently declined to hear a court case that would have given the unborn personhood rights.
If given personhood rights, like they have been in Georgia, it would be possible to pregnant women or the families to claim the unborn child as a dependent on taxes during the pregnancy.

This would have also helped out poor women who are considering adoption financially, and anything that helps more women choose life is good in my opinion. I lurk on a mom forum and there are so many women struggling between what they know is wrong and extreme poverty.




My personal commentary: this confirms that the supreme court does not care about the murder of the unborn, and that Roe being overturned may just be a step in the direction of eliminating "rights" that fall under the due process or equal protection clause. If there's no right to medical privacy that makes it more likely to pass v@x mandates or forced microchipping.
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Personally, I always felt there was an ulterior motive behind over turning Roe Vs Wade.
I agree, the Supreme Court does not truly care about the murder of the unborn. I was literally stunned while listening to a Christian station in the car the other day and heard that over 50 percent of abortions before Roe was even overturned were from the abortion pill.
Most woman are now having an abortion in the comfort of their own home. I was in shock!
I'm sure that number is rising. So the evil people in control allowed Roe to be overturned because home abortions are skyrocketing. Mother's are still killing their babies at an alarming rate.
So while I rejoiced with the victory, because babies are being saved. The evil elites in power knew that most abortions now are from the abortion pill which they developed.
I originally thought there would be much more division and riots over their decision , but after your post and comment I realize my feelings were right that something bigger was being planned from this decision.
There is of course a sinister reason why The Supreme Court overturned Roe at this time.
 

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The Supreme Court recently declined to hear a court case that would have given the unborn personhood rights.
If given personhood rights, like they have been in Georgia, it would be possible to pregnant women or the families to claim the unborn child as a dependent on taxes during the pregnancy.

This would have also helped out poor women who are considering adoption financially, and anything that helps more women choose life is good in my opinion. I lurk on a mom forum and there are so many women struggling between what they know is wrong and extreme poverty.




My personal commentary: this confirms that the supreme court does not care about the murder of the unborn, and that Roe being overturned may just be a step in the direction of eliminating "rights" that fall under the due process or equal protection clause. If there's no right to medical privacy that makes it more likely to pass v@x mandates or forced microchipping.
Its infuriating that pregnant females havent already had access to these benefits and special status'. But in the continued deniance, there is the continued lie that kids in the womb aint kids, which allows for the abortion excuses and ultimatley is what the "pro-choice" argument rests on.
 
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TocixFeminitySucks
Personally, I always felt there was an ulterior motive behind over turning Roe Vs Wade.
I agree, the Supreme Court does not truly care about the murder of the unborn. I was literally stunned while listening to a Christian station in the car the other day and heard that over 50 percent of abortions before Roe was even overturned were from the abortion pill.
Most woman are now having an abortion in the comfort of their own home. I was in shock!
I'm sure that number is rising. So the evil people in control allowed Roe to be overturned because home abortions are skyrocketing. Mother's are still killing their babies at an alarming rate.
So while I rejoiced with the victory, because babies are being saved. The evil elites in power knew that most abortions now are from the abortion pill which they developed.
I originally thought there would be much more division and riots over their decision , but after your post and comment I realize my feelings were right that something bigger was being planned from this decision.
There is of course a sinister reason why The Supreme Court overturned Roe at this time.
I absolutely agree.

It seemed to me to be a political move, a way to mobilize the leftist crowd under the pretense of "our rights are being taken away!", by "rights" them only meaning killing babies and gay marriages. Meanwhile, the "conservatives" seemed to be just celebrating without noting that first of all, the unborn were not being given personhood, and second of all, this opens the door to revisiting many cases that could have a far reaching impact in individual privacy rights.

Then specifically Justice Thomas's concurring opinion on married couples not having the right to birth control was bizarre. Even more bizarre that all the "conservative" commentaries in it either ignored this or even tried to play it off as a good thing. This seemed to me a way to turn "moderates" towards the left.

And yes, hardly any mention of the fact that most abortions were being done through pills over the mail. If i remember correctly, the supreme court decided during the plandemic that it was an "essential" service for planned parenthood to mail abortion pills to anyone during lockdowns, no questions asked. As far as i know this has remained in place even after businesses reopened in person.

And if i remember correctly the decision was anounced on 6/24/2022 6/6/6
 

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it's also to do as it's doing with some
getting a full blown hysterectomy so
they can't get pregnant,which is not
reversible if down the road Ya decided
Ya wanted a Child after all

Helps with population control by Peoples
sterilizing themselves by choice,it Helps in
dividing/distracting/fighting/protests etc...

it keeps Us from focusing on the actual things
We should be focusing on instead of still allowing
these evils to divide Us with these petty divides
they have used for way too long now
 

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of course he'd veto it,they will not
allow that revenue of Children to be
taken from them,We are dealing with
pure ancient evil that have been in power
forever now

too bad even if banned/outlawed w/e it
will not stop them killing Children they'll
go back to hiding it is all that will/is going
on now

only in today's backwards world where women
have freedom as We're gaining Our "equality" to
go and get themselves sterilized or use pills to
murder a Child many will choose these options

 

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I cannot believe they actually made this
acting likes its outlawed everywhere

 

redqueen

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all these women look absolutely disgusted
as they should the way these 2 evils speak
of prices for this and that like these women
are a department store


I watch this earlier today,the dr at the end I Know
has been in other things shared here and he does
go into an extremely detailed description of what
exactly an abortion entails

I have to Believe that if women thinking of this option
were shown any of his videos beforehand it would change
their Hearts and they wouldn't go through with it

I don't See or understand how anyone could Know the how's
and still choose this option though I Know some still would as
Our World been tainted and twisted so all Good is bad and all bad
is good

that he has chosen to change and the message he gives
at the end about anyone can is great but he will still be here
for a few more lifetimes for what he's done least he has Seen
it was wrong and is trying

 

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this is a extremely graphic animation of a
live abortion in the second term
this is outright murder

show whoever needs to be shown most Hear a
word but don't Know what it actually is

time is too short to wear kid gloves and
some Peoples will need to be shaken awake

 

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all these women look absolutely disgusted
as they should the way these 2 evils speak
of prices for this and that like these women
are a department store


I watch this earlier today,the dr at the end I Know
has been in other things shared here and he does
go into an extremely detailed description of what
exactly an abortion entails

I have to Believe that if women thinking of this option
were shown any of his videos beforehand it would change
their Hearts and they wouldn't go through with it

I don't See or understand how anyone could Know the how's
and still choose this option though I Know some still would as
Our World been tainted and twisted so all Good is bad and all bad
is good

that he has chosen to change and the message he gives
at the end about anyone can is great but he will still be here
for a few more lifetimes for what he's done least he has Seen
it was wrong and is trying

Its so intentionally open. This is not just the horrifying means justifying the homicidal ends... its the humiliation ritual and the acceptance... the knowledge this video simultaneously effects younger female, especially black, viewers the same by triggering humiliation and acceptance.
 

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thats how sick,twisted these evils are
who's to say it's just for the harvesting
of what's said it sounds horrific like there's
a lot of terrorizing that baby first for maybe
something else these things like to harvest

what they do to these poor Children is something
everyone should be able to get behind so how
do We get the crazy to the max pro's for to
wake up show them what happens for real

maybe instead of having anti protests,where
everyone just tries out screaming everyone
else

get the biggest screen Ya can get to project on
with the loudest speakers Ya can and show
them straight out the videos

of the whistle blowers and the actual planned parent
workers admitting what they do,that dr that describes
what he used to do and how he can't anymore

gotta try different strategies as the ones We're
using aren't working,they're causing more divide
than anything else and tptb love that

this should never have been allowed and
the minute it came out that she was bought
,paid for and lied also kept her own Child
it shoulda been banned everywhere


 
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redqueen

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the hypocrisy with these evils is on another lvl eh
it's a religious right for hsiwej peoples to murder
Children,they don't See it as life

think it's been shared here somewhere of the ceremony
the ish have where they burn a Child alive as a sacrifice
I forget the name of the ceremony right now

any Peoples claiming religious Beliefs the last few years
got told nope too bad it's not acceptable anymore there is
no exemption due to Beliefs

these evils are acting like it's been outlawed/banned
everywhere when it's still widely accepted in too many
places yet,they're not happy unless they have their farms
in every city/town/state

I have posted the one video where the hsiwej guy is
laughing,mocking so happy to brag about what the
untouchable designed group does to Children/Us

there is no coincidences with these evils

 
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"baby killers"? LOL you and your "christian taliban" need to shut up and eat SHIT. Stinking incels trying to control women's bodies and breed them like chattal. You watch, you people are going to pay dearly for interferin in women's health and rights.
killing babies =/= rights
worshipping demon god of child sacrifice =/= health
 
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The vast majority of abortions have nothing to do with r@pe or !ncest, just women (and their male partners) making stupid choices. The time to make the "choice" about your body is before engaging in s*xual contact.

Im guessing then the goal posts will move from "making innocent women carry their r@pists babies!" to "everyone (actually, only females) has a RIGHT to engage in actions without considering consequences"

Many people also grossly overestimate the percentage of abortions done to save women’s lives or physical health, in cases of r*pe and incest, or to avoid birth defects (eugenics). This is a fallacy that pro-abortion groups continue to cultivate because it helps them to spread abortion in nations with pro-life laws and to retain abortion on demand once they have achieved it. Public opinion polls conducted over the years in the United States reveal that people generally believe that “hard cases” account for anywhere from one-quarter to one-half of all abortions.

3.5% of Abortions Are for the “Hard Cases”
Calculations based on statistics provided by medical journals and government surveys in the United States show that abortions for the “hard cases” are much rarer than most people believe.
This survey is very genereous. It even counts mental health as health, not just limiting health to preserving the mother's life.

A survey of more than 2.4 million aborting women performed by the states of Florida, Louisiana, Minnesota, Nebraska, South Dakota and Utah during the years 1996 to 2020 gives us an accurate estimate of the number of “hard case” abortions, since these are the numbers that abortion clinics must report in official documents to these states:

Of course, it goes without saying that more help should be available to the poor so that these economic reasons can stop being a factor. Familes/women should be able to claim the unborn child as a dependent on taxes, and no job should be able to fire a woman for pregnancy or taking time off to recover from the birth. Maximum dwelling occupancy laws should be reversed.

"Conservatives" fail for not caring about the condition of the poor. "Liberals" fail for not seeing the value of life, effectively carrying out the depopulation agenda.
 

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We are allowed to have different opinions
without that this world would be a extremely
boring place

being a mom who had hard pregnancies and
almost lost two of mine I Know of some scary
issues that can arise during pregnancy

I was all for abortion a few yrs back for any
reason as it's the woman's body and who're We
to tell them what to do right

specially those who've been raped/incest,being
I was abused this was a big one for me as I couldn't
imagine forcing someone to carry their perpetrators
Child to term without it causing harm to both mother
and Child

then I did some of my own research and found out what
it was I was in support of and watched some videos which
have been shared here if Your interested @Celestree Ya may
find them informative

after which my feelings changed though I am in support of
those who've been abused receiving this procedure,I would
be Happier if they could find the strength to carry to term but
would not fault them at all if they couldn't as I'm not sure if I
would have been able to

the women so deathly afraid of pregnancy has options so they
do not become pregnant and therefore need not use this option
those who just went out,drank partied w/e there is options for
them too besides the murder of a Child after the fact

the point is this is a last option procedure that should only be
used in certain circumstances

not because Your not ready to have a baby or didn't think Ya
would end up pregnant,went and had a few too many to drink/
w/e at a party

there are other options for those who are of that mindset that
they should be taking ahead of time not relying on the choice
to murder a Child being the option instead of just using common
sense and protection from becoming pregnant in the first place

I doubt anything I've said will change Your opinion just as I doubt
Ya will change any opinions here with Your response/posts

if Your interested in actually Hearing/Seeing from those who're
/have been involved with this procedure then look through this
thread as more than enough has been posted to educate anyone
on the topic
 

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ummm I didn't say any of that

not shaming anyone but if Ya are having sex than
Ya Know what the result of it can be as Ya said biology
101 so take the precautions

that's not the only way women get pregnant however
it is a main reason for them accepting the murder of
a Child as an option to their poor choices

I do tell men the same thing no discrimination but as
Ya already pointed out women are in charge of their
bodies and can chose to use one of the many options
available now a days even the day after pill is a better
option

Your a 100% right it is WELL documented meaning women
should now be aware when they go out

murder of a Child because the minute it's got a heartbeat
inside of Ya it's another human growing to become w/e
it is they will become

think I might be the furthest thing from a bible thumper one
can get but just because I changed my mind on this shouldnt
automatically make me religious just means I've done intensive
research and Seen what I was in support of isn't what I was told
it is/thought it was

if Ya had been here for any length of time Ya would've Seen posted
many times in different threads,that I'm against abuse of any kind against
anyone be it Child/women/men all can be/have been abused

im not in a cult well maybe the ctheorist cult lol

again I ain't gonna change Your mindset nor will Ya change mine
 
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You said:

the women so deathly afraid of pregnancy has options so they
do not become pregnant and therefore need not use this option
those who just went out,drank partied w/e there is options for
them too besides the murder of a Child after the fact



Please take that shit and SHOVE IT ^^^^

1. You seem to want to shame women for "going out, drinking and partying" - as if that's the main way women get pregnant.
How about you go around telling men not to "go out drinking and partying" so they don't cause unwanted pregnancies?
Also, it's well-documented how predatory men are constantly slipping date-r*pe drugs in drinks at parties, or getting women drunk and vulnerable and then having sex with them while the women is inebriated, because they know they'd get turned down otherwise.

2. "Murder of the child" LOL. Which "child" is being "murdered" exactly?

3. Are you a bible thumper? If you are, then read your bible. It clearly states life begins at FIRST BREATH.

4. Not everyone is a bible thumper. If you perverted cult believes in torturing girls and women, you certainly don't have the right to inflict your perverted views on others. And we have every right to stop you because even ONE GIRL or ONE WOMAN being tortured like this is one too many.

5. A woman may not be deathly afraid of pregnancy to begin with. But as the pregnancy continues and she starts to experience horrific pain and health problems - the fear may begin THEN. And if she wants an abortion, she WILL HAVE an abortion, and you and your stinking cult can't do anything about it. :D
You said:

the women so deathly afraid of pregnancy has options so they
do not become pregnant and therefore need not use this option
those who just went out,drank partied w/e there is options for
them too besides the murder of a Child after the fact



Please take that shit and SHOVE IT ^^^^

1. You seem to want to shame women for "going out, drinking and partying" - as if that's the main way women get pregnant.
How about you go around telling men not to "go out drinking and partying" so they don't cause unwanted pregnancies?
Also, it's well-documented how predatory men are constantly slipping date-r*pe drugs in drinks at parties, or getting women drunk and vulnerable and then having sex with them while the women is inebriated, because they know they'd get turned down otherwise.

2. "Murder of the child" LOL. Which "child" is being "murdered" exactly?

3. Are you a bible thumper? If you are, then read your bible. It clearly states life begins at FIRST BREATH.

4. Not everyone is a bible thumper. If you perverted cult believes in torturing girls and women, you certainly don't have the right to inflict your perverted views on others. And we have every right to stop you because even ONE GIRL or ONE WOMAN being tortured like this is one too many.

5. A woman may not be deathly afraid of pregnancy to begin with. But as the pregnancy continues and she starts to experience horrific pain and health problems - the fear may begin THEN. And if she wants an abortion, she WILL HAVE an abortion, and you and your stinking cult can't do anything about it. :D

You two are saying kind of the same thing here...
I understand there are multidimensional-perspectives here.
I do see similar ideas being conveyed.
I am partial to both.
 

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@Celestree

I tend to find that those who rely on rudeness and aggression to make a point often have a point that couldn’t stand up for itself.

There are simply two world views colliding in the national debate over this question and it is the unspoken foundation of those views that is important.

If you are of the view that the Bible is untrue (perhaps a collection of outdated fables and prejudices rolled up in pious language), chances are that you believe you hare simply a product of undirected evolution and that your life has only the arbitrary meaning you assign to it.

You might conclude that human life itself is no more “sacred” than any other physical process, such as an apple appearing on a tree. In such a world-view, all morality is horizontally defined only. If society for the most part accepts a position then that position becomes “true”. If you don’t believe me, just ask someone “what is a woman?”

If that is your position it is easy to see why the you would feel that the wishes or convenience of a mother would trump those of an unwanted intrusion into her life.

If the Bible happens to be true (and there are many who believe there is compelling evidence to believe that to be so) then there is clearly a vertical as well as a horizontal component to morality. The One who created life would therefore have a valid say over how we get to define when we can take it away.
 
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ive notice Ya keep saying things such as the above
"women/girls being bred against their will",incel

not sure if Ya noticed but none in here have said that
nor have anyone said anything to imply that and being
I'm a women/mother/grandmother I'm not for it in any
way shape or form for anyone being tortured/abused
/treated poorly in anyway

I've already said I am understanding of those who've
become impregnated by abuse of any kind to have
this as an option because I See more harm to both
mother and Child

yes I would like it if they somehow found the strength
to go full term however being I've been abused I wholeheartedly
understand why one cannot do that

Ya are mad at the wrong Peoples look to those in
power that allow these evils to happen in the first
place

those who give a slap on the wrist to the perpetrators
or keep relaxing the laws to allow for this sickness to
spread like a disease

no matter how much We bicker back and forth tptb
stay doing exactly what Your in here accusing others
of

had Ya taken the time to Read some of the threads/
posts around this forum Ya would easily See that Your
assumptions of who/what Peoples here are is severely
lacking

I am NOT for abuse of anyone no matter who that Person
is,imho/Beliefs it's wrong and should be punishable by death

which again if Ya took the time to Read and get to Know those
here before Ya assume that Ya do ,Ya can easily See I've said
there is one solution to the sickness as have many others here
 
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