River Phoenix was murdered because he was about to blow the lid

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What is up with Amber Heard pulling a baby out of thin air? I don't remember her even being pregnant? And should someone with her mental problems be allowed to even be around children much less a baby?
 

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What is up with Amber Heard pulling a baby out of thin air? I don't remember her even being pregnant? And should someone with her mental problems be allowed to even be around children much less a baby?
She said the baby was born through a surrogate.

The unspoken trauma in old Hollywood was that many female stars struggled to conceive because they were bullied into abortions to keep working.

You also wonder what kind of trauma their bodies went through, in some of the orgy type events we do know about, let alone don’t. And often, they are abused very young.

You hear about lone 12 year-old stars being invited to private parties of grown executives and later on, some of those same stars appear to lose their minds, once they age enough to understand what happened to them.

The explosion of “free love” American or International cults of the 60’s and 70’s (many suspected of being CIA and FBI operations) and their constant ties to child stars of the 80’s and 90’s, makes you wonder if these children were raised with abuse for the sole purpose of being able to serve predatory Hollywood underground culture.
 

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What is up with Amber Heard pulling a baby out of thin air? I don't remember her even being pregnant? And should someone with her mental problems be allowed to even be around children much less a baby?
the baby was from a surrogate mother..
 

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Yeah I think it was sorry.
It’s interesting that there still is the Johnny Depp connection to Phoenix’s death.

Also, Depp dated Winona Ryder while he was still owner of “The Viper Room.” Ryder grew-up on the “Rainbow” commune. Timothy Leary was her Godfather (Leary is seen mentally manipulating Frusciante in Depp’s short film “Stuff.”)

Depp is best friends with and in a side band with Marilyn Manson.

Manson dated Rose McGowan, who grew-up in the Paris branch of The Children of God.
 

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Yeah, I know about the family cult, poor boy really grew up in such a bad way ...
I read in another site (that I don't remember at the moment, but I have it saved somewhere) that J0hn Frusc1ante gave him the letal drink. It's quite an interesting discussion which I would like to show you, but I don't know if I can link some external site (I'm pretty new here).
There was even a blog in which they talk about an interview that RP had, where he complained about some big company (GE i guess); and that interview was literally canceled and is now impossible to find (though many people still remember it).
I will gladly post the link or just some copy/paste (with credits ofc) if i'm allowed.
I agree 100% they sacrificed him and John fruciante gave him the lethal dose. But as a former heroin and cocaine addict I can tell you for certain that if someone put a lethal dose in a drink, even alcohol you would taste it right away. That’s also not a common way of taking it. You definitely taste the bag or spoon so you are very acquainted with the taste. I still taste it just thinking about it. So no, it wasn’t in his drink. John probably said “hey let me give you a shot” and river agreed but it was a “hot shot”. It also doesnt kick in right away. When I OD I never knew until about a half hour of getting higher and higher until i close my eyes and wake up in the hospital
 

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I agree 100% they sacrificed him and John fruciante gave him the lethal dose. But as a former heroin and cocaine addict I can tell you for certain that if someone put a lethal dose in a drink, even alcohol you would taste it right away. That’s also not a common way of taking it. You definitely taste the bag or spoon so you are very acquainted with the taste. I still taste it just thinking about it. So no, it wasn’t in his drink. John probably said “hey let me give you a shot” and river agreed but it was a “hot shot”. It also doesnt kick in right away. When I OD I never knew until about a half hour of getting higher and higher until i close my eyes and wake up in the hospital
And the dose needed is also bigger than you realize. This was heroin, not fentanyl. You can shoot a lot until you OD and oral is weaker. So you would definitely taste it. Everything else I agree with
 

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Exactly. I don’t either. Plus if you marry Marylin Manson, you know what you’re getting into. He’s Marylin Manson! And if he had a r*pe Room or whatever they say he had and he was like “wanna see my r*pe Room?”- just say no! His whole gimmick was being dark and messed up. Not victim blaming if she actually was hurt but still
Actually I deleted my post I guess it not too relevant to thread of River Phoenix and don't want to mess up thread.
 

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And the dose needed is also bigger than you realize. This was heroin, not fentanyl. You can shoot a lot until you OD and oral is weaker. So you would definitely taste it. Everything else I agree with
That’s what’s so odd. In the autopsy report, it was noted that there were no puncture/track marks except at the site of the iv that was administered.

There was no residue in the nasal cavity.

However, his stomach was full of fluid and unmetabolized drugs. The fluid amount matches the cup theory and he clearly had just had something to drink.

In the accounts, he had supposedly screamed “What did you put in there?!” after throwing it back.
 

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That’s what’s so odd. In the autopsy report, it was noted that there were no puncture/track marks except at the site of the iv that was administered.

There was no residue in the nasal cavity.

However, his stomach was full of fluid and unmetabolized drugs. The fluid amount matches the cup theory and he clearly had just had something to drink.

In the accounts, he had supposedly screamed “What did you put in there?!” after throwing it back.
Hmm that’s interesting. So he probably knew. My thing is why would he drink all of it when he realized it tasted weird. I’m not discounting what you’re saying, it’s definitely a mystery. But from experience as an ex junkie you would recognize that taste anywhere. Trust me. There’s no masking the taste of high quality heroin, and cocaine is a numbing agent. He would have known. Maybe the medical examiner is lying about the drugs being in it and it was some poison
 

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Hmm that’s interesting. So he probably knew. My thing is why would he drink all of it when he realized it tasted weird. I’m not discounting what you’re saying, it’s definitely a mystery. But from experience as an ex junkie you would recognize that taste anywhere. Trust me. There’s no masking the taste of high quality heroin, and cocaine is a numbing agent. He would have known. Maybe the medical examiner is lying about the drugs being in it and it was some poison
Maybe it was some unknown poison but since he was a junkie they lied about what he died from. People aren’t very compassionate towards addicts, if you say they OD they’ll believe it. Not just celebrities. Most people assume addicts are just throwaways like trash. I know this from experience
 

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That’s what’s so odd. In the autopsy report, it was noted that there were no puncture/track marks except at the site of the iv that was administered.

There was no residue in the nasal cavity.

However, his stomach was full of fluid and unmetabolized drugs. The fluid amount matches the cup theory and he clearly had just had something to drink.

In the accounts, he had supposedly screamed “What did you put in there?!” after throwing it back.
I’m reading the autopsy now, it’s very strange. This is way deeper than I thought. It just doesn’t make sense to me that he could have drank it. Unless he was forced to do it by someone
 
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Maybe it was some unknown poison but since he was a junkie they lied about what he died from. People aren’t very compassionate towards addicts, if you say they OD they’ll believe it. Not just celebrities. Most people assume addicts are just throwaways like trash. I know this from experience
I had a loved one die from a heroin overdose, even after our family battling that demon with him. I am certainly not one of those people without compassion for addicts: Most people have no clue what it’s like to have your body and mind at odds with each other in the way an addicted person’s is.

You should be very proud of your overcoming your addiction and managing and maintaining it.

The autopsy report is truly odd because it challenges all the things even those who were or are addicts would expect to happen. It appeared River really had become a social user in the months leading up to his death, if he’d ever been an addict at all.

No track marks on his body, no damage to his organs, no chemistry coming back showing long term abuse of prescription drugs. He’d only had the expected anti-anxiety med and cough medicine in his system.

Also, it was odd there was no alcohol in his system. So he wasn’t drunk at the time he consumed the drugs.

A seasoned drug user would have known that amount would kill someone who hadn’t been using in at least two months, which was the initial claim of Sluizer while River was filming on location (though he seemed to second guess himself later and wonder if the strange behavior had to have been from drug use, given how everyone was told he had died), particularly if he’d been clean for “Dark Blood”, as he’d claimed. He’d said he was only living on artichokes, to approximate how his character should have looked on a desert subsistence diet.

A seasoned drug user would have also known he wouldn’t have felt a high from that mode of consumption for the kind+amount of drugs, he’d just be poisoned by it. It would have been a waste of an expensive amount drugs and they wouldn’t have said “this will make you feel fabulous “, knowing it would both, make him feel sick and produce a weaker high.

It’s all so strange. But as you’ve said, so many people are callous and ignorant about addiction. Just saying someone overdosed on recreational drugs is enough and it’s and open and closed case for them.
 
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