- May 12, 2019
Thank you for the videos.Vancityeagle is wrong again, how does he do it
from someone who used to live in china
The Indian residential schools case is similar to this. In fact if I were taking a critic's side on this, I would say, there is more hard evidence for the genocide of Native Indians than the Uyghurs, however, you would have us accept one but deny the other. That's the problem with meta- meta-political narratives and political partisanship. You accept one event for which the burden of proof is quite high, but won't accept an event that has a similarly high burden of proof, simply because the data does not conform to a preconceived political hypothesis. E.g. you said for the Kamloops discovery that ground-penetrating sonar just tells us that there are graves located in that area, nothing about the ages or identities of the dead bodies, and you used an article where natives say that they themselves bury their dead at this gravesite, but I could use a similar type of argument for the Uyghur case and say something like, "this is all testimony and hearsay at best, I will only believe this once I see the dead bodies myself, it is more logical to go with the most simple and logical explanation, which is that these camps are just re-education facilities." But the fact is, that both have occurred or are occurring, and both types of argument are fallacious, because they are based on an omission of data, and the explanation given by the denier does not explain all the available evidence.
I could just as soon substitute Uyghur-related terms into the comment I made on the Indian residential school discussion in the other thread, mimicking what a denier of the Native American genocide would say, and it would still make sense. This is what a denier of the Uyghur genocide might say:
"Reeducation camps are a gift that the benevolent CCP have bestowed on the Uyghurs, to instil in them an appreciation for Han Chinese culture. The Uyghurs are treated well, and enjoy a good standard of education. They are not punished for the benign act of speaking their native tongue, or practicing religious rituals. They are not afflicted with a degree of infertility that is not typical of other Chinese, nor are they subject to physical or sexual abuse. They do not die in numbers any higher than other Chinese. Each death is a terrible and unpreventable tragedy, nothing more. Each Uyghur is buried neatly and respectably in his own marked grave.
"Those who say otherwise are trying to destroy the left, capitulate to rightwing conservatives, and undermine the great Chinese govt. All hail the CCP."
In both, there is a denial of a stark reality, for the purposes of a petty, transient political affiliation.
It seems some left wingers accept the persecution of Palestinians and Native Americans, but won't accept the persecution of Uyghurs; some right wingers accept the persecution of Palestinians and Uyghurs, but not the persecution of Native Americans; and some Christian Evangelicals may accept the persecution of Native Americans and Uyghurs, but never that of Palestinians!