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We are nearly at the stage now where we don't need a special head set to experience augmented reality.
 






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Good for the Gypsy King..... but he still must run it back a 3rd time w/Wilder.... anything else is unacceptable.
It's well past time for pro boxing to implement a super heavyweight division. With HW starting at 200 lbs, it has to have a cap at 235-240. If not, the eventual HW champion will be a 300 lb'er who didn't play football instead

Fury weighed 273. Wilder managed 231, but as you could see in the fight he didn't wear it well. When you have to eat your way up just to get to 231 and that weight isn't settled in, there's a common adage that goes along with that: "He's losing weight in the ring." Wilder was losing weight in the ring. So Fury weighs in at 273 (up from 256 in fight 1) and it's settled weight because he can carry it. Then he rehydrates and eats and voila he's probably 285 walking into the ring. Which allowed him to do what he said he was gonna do: bash Wilder.


Wilder now says that his 40 lb suit he wore into the ring drained his legs before the fight (cause carrying the weight of a toddler for 10 minutes is soooo draining), but it was really the 40 lb meat suit the other guy wore what done him in. Fury wrestled and leaned on him with the weight. The reality was that weight wise it was probably about 280 vs 220 by the end. That big a weight difference could end up getting somebody killed in there, due to that difference.

Here's what I think really. went down: Wilder had a knee injury he didn't disclose so as not to derail the fight $$. He was shaking his leg around before the bell, thus consciously or unconsciously signaling that his leg wasn't right from the start. It was noted by the announcers after about rd 2 that Wilder had stopped throwing his right hand, which is his dominant punch. Well, that happens when you can't plant and throw with leverage. So I'm thinkin that's why he looked like a deer in the headlights in there.

He's got a commited opponent who's got 60 lbs on him, he can't really fight back because the knee won't let him, wasn't capable of his usual movement, he's losing weight in the ring, his defense isn't great to start with, AND suffered a ruptured eardrum in the ring so bye bye equilibrium. Disaster night but for $$$
. Even more for the trilogy with a 60/40 split for Fury.

Now I'm seeing reports that Wilder is injured (of course he WAS) and will have to take time off. If that's the case, Fury can fight Anthony Joshua, unify everything, and if Fury wins then the trilogy can be for all the marbles.
If Joshua wins, a rematch clause might trigger, which might put Wilder out of the rotation for longer. So he heals up, works on his defense, and fights tune-up til his turn comes back around.

 






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It's well past time for pro boxing to implement a super heavyweight division. With HW starting at 200 lbs, it has to have a cap at 235-240. If not, the eventual HW champion will be a 300 lb'er who didn't play football instead

Fury weighed in at 273. Wilder managed 231, but as you could see in the fight he didn't wear it well. When you have to eat your way just to get to 231 and that weight isn't settled in, there's a common adage that goes along with that: "He's losing weight in the ring." Wilder was losing weight in the ring.

Fury weighing in at 273 (up from 256 in fight 1) and it's settled weight because he can carry it. Then he rehydrates and eats and voila he's probably 285 walking into the ring. Which allowed him to do what he said he was gonna do: bash Wilder.


Wilder now says that his 40 lb suit he wore into the ring drained his legs before the fight (cause carrying the weight of a toddler for 10 minutes is soooo draining), but it was really the 40 lb meat suit the other guy wore what done him in. Fury wrestled and leaned on him with the weight. The reality was that weight wise it was probably about 280 vs 220 by the end. That big a weight difference could end up getting somebody killed in there, due to that difference.

Here's what I think really. went down: Wilder had a knee injury he didn't disclose so as not to derail the fight $$. He was shaking his leg around before the bell, thus consciously or unconsciously signaling that his leg wasn't right from the start. It was noted by the announcers after about rd 2 that Wilder had stopped throwing his right hand, which is his dominant punch. Well, that happens when you can't plant and throw with leverage. So I'm thinkin that's why he looked like a deer in the headlights in there.

He's got a commited opponent who's got 60 lbs on him, he can't really fight back because the knee won't let him, wasn't capable of his usual movement, he's losing weight in the ring, his defense isn't great to start with, AND suffered a ruptured eardrum in the ring so bye bye equilibrium. Disaster night but for $$$
. Even more for the trilogy with a 60/40 split for Fury.

Now I'm seeing reports that Wilder is injured (of course he WAS) and will have to take time off. If that's the case, Fury can fight Anthony Joshua, unify everything, and if Fury wins then the trilogy can be for all the marbles.


If Joshua wins, a rematch clause might trigger, which might put Wilder out of the rotation for longer. So he heals up, works on his defense, and fights tune-up til his turn comes back around.

For me, the most egregious thing about the fight was the fact that Wilders eardrum was busted and gushing blood from a Gypsy King punch and for the next few rounds the commentary team just kept calling the fight like Fury had somehow magically found a way to hurt the Bronze Bomber. That was the deciding factor in the fight. Might it turn out similar when they run it back (Wilder is apparently exercising the trilogy contract clause)? Could be, perhaps Fury has got Wilders number..... but the eardrum was very clearly the turning point of the fight. The 45lb. costume sure didn't help, but nobody forced him to wear it. Boxers have robes specifically designed for their sport, he should avail himself of that tradition next time.

Edit: You have a VERY interesting theory regarding the knee injury. Im going to re-watch the fight this weekend and check for it!
 






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It's well past time for pro boxing to implement a super heavyweight division. With HW starting at 200 lbs, it has to have a cap at 235-240. If not, the eventual HW champion will be a 300 lb'er who didn't play football instead

Fury weighed 273. Wilder managed 231, but as you could see in the fight he didn't wear it well. When you have to eat your way up just to get to 231 and that weight isn't settled in, there's a common adage that goes along with that: "He's losing weight in the ring." Wilder was losing weight in the ring. So Fury weighs in at 273 (up from 256 in fight 1) and it's settled weight because he can carry it. Then he rehydrates and eats and voila he's probably 285 walking into the ring. Which allowed him to do what he said he was gonna do: bash Wilder.


Wilder now says that his 40 lb suit he wore into the ring drained his legs before the fight (cause carrying the weight of a toddler for 10 minutes is soooo draining), but it was really the 40 lb meat suit the other guy wore what done him in. Fury wrestled and leaned on him with the weight. The reality was that weight wise it was probably about 280 vs 220 by the end. That big a weight difference could end up getting somebody killed in there, due to that difference.

Here's what I think really. went down: Wilder had a knee injury he didn't disclose so as not to derail the fight $$. He was shaking his leg around before the bell, thus consciously or unconsciously signaling that his leg wasn't right from the start. It was noted by the announcers after about rd 2 that Wilder had stopped throwing his right hand, which is his dominant punch. Well, that happens when you can't plant and throw with leverage. So I'm thinkin that's why he looked like a deer in the headlights in there.

He's got a commited opponent who's got 60 lbs on him, he can't really fight back because the knee won't let him, wasn't capable of his usual movement, he's losing weight in the ring, his defense isn't great to start with, AND suffered a ruptured eardrum in the ring so bye bye equilibrium. Disaster night but for $$$
. Even more for the trilogy with a 60/40 split for Fury.

Now I'm seeing reports that Wilder is injured (of course he WAS) and will have to take time off. If that's the case, Fury can fight Anthony Joshua, unify everything, and if Fury wins then the trilogy can be for all the marbles.
If Joshua wins, a rematch clause might trigger, which might put Wilder out of the rotation for longer. So he heals up, works on his defense, and fights tune-up til his turn comes back around.

I like Wilder, but that last match was really lopsided. Fury got the best of him.

Fury is just naturally big. Hard to fight that, unless you’re packing some serious punching power.
 






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