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I'm not a doctor "yet" but even I can tell you that Fasting is extremelyyyyy beneficial for health ESPECIALLY the way Muslims do it. Even tho you are probably here for trolling, but you should take up on the advice. A healthy body is a healthy brain and less trolling and more facts : )
Any opinion you don't like is automatically trolling and subject of ridicule? I keep a respectful and meaningful discussion and do not go into personal attacks. I think this is what forums are for. I do have education, too, but I don't want to flash it as means of intellectual superiority. Truth is truth no matter who says it.
 





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Any opinion you don't like is automatically trolling and subject of ridicule? I keep a respectful and meaningful discussion and do not go into personal attacks. I think this is what forums are for. I do have education, too, but I don't want to flash it as means of intellectual superiority. Truth is truth no matter who says it.
Then don't tell people that Fasting is bad for the body when any medical professional even an atheist would tell you how beneficial fasting is. And they recommend a proper way to do it, and that way is how Muslims do it.

And I'm leaving this at that because this thread is way too beautiful for petty arguments, At the end of the day its your loss, our benefit, We will be rocking our present and our old age with less wrinkles and better health and ofcourse a better body.
 





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Then don't tell people that Fasting is bad for the body when any medical professional even an atheist would tell you how beneficial fasting is. And they recommend a proper way to do it, and that way is how Muslims do it.

And I'm leaving this at that because this thread is way too beautiful for petty arguments, At the end of the day its your loss, our benefit, We will be rocking our present and our old age with less wrinkles and better health and ofcourse a better body.
As a vegan and Shamanist and minimalist in consumption being respectful to our mother Umai the Brown Earth, I can tell you that eating right and in the right state of mind, and living a healthy lifestyle in general (body, mind, spirit) is super healthy. Instead of living unhealthy and then gulp multiple "pills" to fix it (like fasting etc), why not live sensibly to start with? Then you don't need to seek any "medically beneficial" remedies to correct your wrongdoing.
 





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As a vegan and Shamanist and minimalist in consumption being respectful to our mother Umai the Brown Earth, I can tell you that eating right and in the right state of mind, and living a healthy lifestyle in general (body, mind, spirit) is super healthy. Instead of living unhealthy and then gulp multiple "pills" to fix it (like fasting etc), why not live sensibly to start with? Then you don't need to seek any "medically beneficial" remedies to correct your wrongdoing.
If people want to fast, why can't they? You can have a healthy diet and still fast for spiritual reasons. Even with a perfectly healthy diet, fasting can still have physical benefits for your body and immune system.
 





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If people want to fast, why can't they? You can have a healthy diet and still fast for spiritual reasons. Even with a perfectly healthy diet, fasting can still have physical benefits for your body and immune system.
Benefits are illusory. There's a better way of living and believing.
 





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"Fasting so you can reach Taqwa [God Consciousness]"?
Remember, Jesus spoke of fasting to the disciples and he of course Fasted himself, as well. He said Father (i.e. God) gives a reward to those who fast, if/when it is done with a correct attitude.

Matthew
6:16 Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6:17 But thou, when thou fastest, anoint thine head, and wash thy face;
6:18 That thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly.
 





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"Fasting so you can reach Taqwa [God Consciousness]"?

Have any Muslim reached "God Consciousness" yet?... LOL
I don't like that name "God Consciousness" either, screams new age... But thats the truth, Daniel 21 day fast, Jesus 40 day fast, Moses insane 80 days fast, and John the baptist fasted all his life.It's soul victory over flesh, and it does bring one closer to God. I personally only did 1 week fast, and even I felt change, the clarity of mind, feeling of calmness, intimacy in prayer, it's something else...
 





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Salaam aleikoem wa rachmatoullahi wa barakathou,

Just joined the board to be able to post during Ramadan and join the discussion :)
وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته
May the peace, mercy, and blessings of Allah be with you too.
Welcome! I look forward to your contributions. We need more voices and insights on here. Marhaba.

I don't like that name "God Consciousness" either, screams new age... But thats the truth, Daniel 21 day fast, Jesus 40 day fast, Moses insane 80 days fast, and John the baptist fasted all his life.It's soul victory over flesh, and it does bring one closer to God. I personally only did 1 week fast, and even I felt change, the clarity of mind, feeling of calmness, intimacy in prayer, it's something else...
Vytas good points. I think it is difficult to encapsulate the word 'taqwa" from arabic to english it means god consciousness and so much more.

Here is a better explanation:
"Taqwa is an Arabic word which is explained as a shield against wrongdoing and further expounded as to be “conscious of Allah” or to have “fear of Allah” or to be “cautiously aware of Allah”.

The origin of the word Taqwa is from the Arabic root letters wa’ ka’ ya (meaning shield) and its verb is from the word “Ittaki”. Ittaki means to be careful or to be protected or to be cautious. Taqwa is an internal compass on the path that leads towards Allah. The broader meaning and character of Taqwa is to develop one’s behavior, so as to be cautiously aware in the worship of Allah and attain nearness to Him and in so doing, perfect oneself."
For the full article:
https://www.islamtomorrow.com/articles/Taqwa_meanings.htm
 





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I don't like that name "God Consciousness" either, screams new age... But thats the truth, Daniel 21 day fast, Jesus 40 day fast, Moses insane 80 days fast, and John the baptist fasted all his life.It's soul victory over flesh, and it does bring one closer to God. I personally only did 1 week fast, and even I felt change, the clarity of mind, feeling of calmness, intimacy in prayer, it's something else...
I get it, there are spiritual benefits/effects concerning fasting...but my question is still valid.

"Fasting so you can reach Taqwa [God Consciousness]"?
Have any Muslim reached "God Consciousness" yet?... LOL

I want to see if any Muslim here actually reached "God Consciousness"... so far none come forth.
 





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Ramadan 1439/2018 begins in KSA and many other countries on Thursday May 17th.

@floss: Please do not pollute the thread with your hatred and disdain. Consiciousness simply meaning to be aware that God is always watching us and knows all that we do. Here is the definition of taqwa if you were sincerely wanting to know:

Taqwa - A State of Submission

Taqwa is an Arabic word which is explained as a shield against wrongdoing and further expounded as to be “conscious of Allah” or to have “fear of Allah” or to be “cautiously aware of Allah”.

The origin of the word Taqwa is from the Arabic root letters wa’ ka’ ya (meaning shield) and its verb is from the word “Ittaki”. Ittaki means to be careful or to be protected or to be cautious.

Taqwa is an internal compass on the path that leads towards Allah. The broader meaning and character of Taqwa is to develop one’s behavior, so as to be cautiously aware in the worship of Allah and attain nearness to Him and in so doing, perfect oneself.

This consciousness and fear of Allah is understood as a protection and a shield against wrongdoing. The abstention of evil through this fear, consciousness and establishing a cautious awareness of Allah, ultimately develops one’s love of Him.

The universal principle of submission to the Divine Will is beautifully expressed in the character of one who is a servant of Allah, known as an “Abd-Allah” which is an ideal state of Taqwa.

Abu Darda (R) said: “From the completion of Taqwa is that the servant fears from His Lord even with regards to things, the weight of an atom." Abu Darda's advice for servants who wish to accomplish a character of 'taqwa' should fear to commit the smallest of sins.

The messenger of Allah said in a Hadith, reported in the Sahih Muslim that, “Taqwa is here”, and he pointed to his chest.

Taqwa is profoundly explained in a discussion between 'Umar and Ka'b who were companions of the prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him.
'Umar asked Ka'b the meaning of 'taqwa,' as Ka'b was renowned for his deep understanding of the Qur'an Al Kareem.
Kaab (R) then inquired from Umar (R), whether he had walked through a thorny bush path with his cloak. Umar (R) replied that he had done so on numerous occasions. Kaab (R) asked Umar (R) to describe his movements through this thorny path. Umar (R) replied that he moved very cautiously, so as not to tear his clothing. Kaab (R) said that was the description and the meaning of Taqwa.

The path that inculcates and embraces a character of Taqwa is one that must be carefully and cautiously treaded. On this path one must be completely aware of oneself and one’s surroundings, to be disciplined with the correct action and behavior which will achieve one’s closeness to Allah.

Taqwa is one of the most profound concepts in Islam. It is an avenue by which Muslims relate to one another in society and a means to channel actions for the pleasure of Allah.

Possessors of Tawqa are called Al-Muttaqun or Muttaqeen.
The following verse of the Qur`an Surah 2 Al Bakarah, Verse 183 confirms that Taqwa is for everyone and not for a select group:

“O you who believe! Fasting is prescribed to you as it was prescribed to those before you, so that you may attain Taqwa.”

This verse confirms two points. Firstly, that fasting is for everyone and secondly, that the development and attaining of Taqwa is an essential part for all who aspire for tranquility and a contented heart. To establish Taqwa is for the rich and the poor, the knowledgeable and the uneducated, the leader and the follower, the ruler and the ruled, the old and the young, the man and the women. All must develop and enhance Taqwa.
The most honored in the sight of Allah is the believer with the most Taqwa, i.e. the most conscious and aware of Him.
The Glorious Qur`an illustrates this in Surah 49 Al Hujurat (the Inner Apartments), Verse 13:

“O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise (each other). Verily the most honored of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you (Muttaqi). And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things).”

The ideal Islamic society is a Taqwa conscious society, conferring its highest respect on those considered to be high in Taqwa.
Though Taqwa is a state of the heart, we cannot judge the Taqwa of others, but many aspects of Taqwa will have a reflection in their character and behavior. The Qur`an though, prohibits anyone from claims of self-purity.
In Surah 53 An Najm (The Clans), Verse 32 reminds us that:

“Hold not yourself purified. Allah knows best who has Taqwa.”



In Islam there is only one Shari'ah (Divine Law) and one scale of righteousness for everyone and that is measured through a character of Taqwa.

The word Taqwa has been mentioned 151 times in the Noble Qur`an. Allah has taken us through the various aspects of His Guidance and Blessings in the Glorious Qur`an. The Qur`anic descriptions of Taqwa are so precise and distinct that it is an indication of the importance of the involvement of this concept in the life of Muslims. These numerous verses elaborate the different dynamics and dimensions of inner meanings of Taqwa that enables Muslims to be an ideal and a living example as a vicegerent of Allah.
The four verses in Surah 2 Al Bakarah Verse 2-5 summarizes the guiding principle in the Noble Qur`an for the people of Taqwa:

2. This is the Book; in it is guidance sure, without doubt, to those who fear (or are conscious) of Allah (Taqwa).
3. Who believe in the Unseen, are steadfast in prayer, and spend out of what We have provided for them;
4. And who believe in the Revelation sent to you, and sent before your time, and (in their hearts) have the assurance of the Hereafter.
5. They are on (true) guidance, from their Lord, and it is these who will prosper.


The Muttaqun are those that believe, fear Allah and look to what He has ordained in carrying out His actions to avoid His displeasure and sadness. These people are involved and active in his/her life with the Ummah (the Muslim community), concerned with the affairs of humanity, whilst at the same time praying , fasting, spending in Allah’s cause, having good morals, are forgiving and just. All these descriptions can be attributed to a person who has Taqwa and will be assured and successful in the Hereafter.
Hence, for the moral development and correct behavior of a good Muslim it necessary that he strictly analyze and establish his Taqwa, but never claims to be a possessor of it.


Nuradeen - JOHANNESBURG, SOUTH AFRICA.