Psychoative drugs, fallen angels and aliens

JustAMan

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Hmm... Dexter's 'dark passenger.' In the books-- not the netflix version.
".. you can't go to God cyborg. -TO"

What does this mean? I found this quote fascinating as "one of my theories" is that these entities are the disembodied consciousness somehow existing in a realm above our current understanding. As part of my experiences the entities that had personalized themselves to me (initials A.W.) had to keep explaining to other entities that they had a made a deal with a "God" in order to complete their mission. There was argument that God should not make deals and should be impartial and somehow they had combined "2 great houses" to create a third (new entity) in order to complete their agenda. This was the subject of much debate as the houses themselves were already considered strong enough. If all sounds weird well so it should - cause it caused an enormous distress.

Was it my imagination? Don't know. All I know is that I saw things (much similar to drones that looked very evil like) that had been created to explore space. It may have been a warning about AI and its consequences - I do not know. I had debates about placing AI in satellites in space and its consequences with these entities and each time they were specifically against it.

...And btw the "Cold War" was not about Nuclear tech - it was all about AI (so I was told). What silly countries would build up a stock pile of Nukes to mutually destroy each other - it was a cover for funds into AI. Was it discovered, invented, or stumbled upon - I don't know.
 






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..And in relation to "Dexter's Dark Passenger" and the "abusive" experiences the entities I did have contact with did abuse me (others didn't) however this did not extend in general towards any malice to others. The abusive entities told me all sorts of things like my family is not mine etc, I was actually physically shaken and sleep deprivation was used. As soon as I feel asleep I would be awoken again and would be in sorts of grief. My brain felt like it was in a dishwasher at some stages. These abusive entities tried to rob me of a world of other people. However after days of this I stripped down to defending what I believed to be good in this world and of morals themselves - devoid of people. I am a loner and for all hell and sundry they tried to make me feel the only person left on Earth. This is where a kind of peace was made. I am not a proud man however I never once asked for Mercy (I believed I did nothing wrong) - I was made to ask for Mercy. They kept playing the song "Run Rabbit, Run Rabbit, Run Run Run" over and over again with weird note variations - but I didn't run - like I said I am too lazy (and stupid). I ended up surrounded by repeating images all through my room all around me - it was hell. There is a sound of high repetitive circular motions of being surrounded which still sends a chill down my spine today (wraiths perhaps I have no fucking idea). I was taken beyond the pale and passed out from pain at one stage (and was awoken again in a cold sweat).

If the world was not as it seemed then what I believed in was real - they couldn't take that away. This is where debates on the notion of existence itself was carried out. They kept telling me I don't exist, the "I" is but an illusion. They threatened to take me off the planet never to return. They pushed me so far and with so much grief something ended up changing in them not me. Some how they (or intervening entities) promised never again would such brutality be carried out on me. yeah I still got visited by entities but was not tormented to that ferocity - they do have a sense of humor. I never asked "God" for help (did not want to bother God) - in hindsight maybe I should of - not to worry.
 






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..And in relation to "Dexter's Dark Passenger" and the "abusive" experiences the entities I did have contact with did abuse me (others didn't) however this did not extend in general towards any malice to others. The abusive entities told me all sorts of things like my family is not mine etc, I was actually physically shaken and sleep deprivation was used. As soon as I feel asleep I would be awoken again and would be in sorts of grief. My brain felt like it was in a dishwasher at some stages. These abusive entities tried to rob me of a world of other people. However after days of this I stripped down to defending what I believed to be good in this world and of morals themselves - devoid of people. I am a loner and for all hell and sundry they tried to make me feel the only person left on Earth. This is where a kind of peace was made. I am not a proud man however I never once asked for Mercy (I believed I did nothing wrong) - I was made to ask for Mercy. They kept playing the song "Run Rabbit, Run Rabbit, Run Run Run" over and over again with weird note variations - but I didn't run - like I said I am too lazy (and stupid). I ended up surrounded by repeating images all through my room all around me - it was hell. There is a sound of high repetitive circular motions of being surrounded which still sends a chill down my spine today (wraiths perhaps I have no fucking idea). I was taken beyond the pale and passed out from pain at one stage (and was awoken again in a cold sweat).

If the world was not as it seemed then what I believed in was real - they couldn't take that away. This is where debates on the notion of existence itself was carried out. They kept telling me I don't exist, the "I" is but an illusion. They threatened to take me off the planet never to return. They pushed me so far and with so much grief something ended up changing in them not me. Some how they (or intervening entities) promised never again would such brutality be carried out on me. yeah I still got visited by entities but was not tormented to that ferocity - they do have a sense of humor. I never asked "God" for help (did not want to bother God) - in hindsight maybe I should of - not to worry.
Next time they tormented you, tell them JESUS IS LORD... see what happen :)

Have you ever seen the bright light being full of colors from the heavenly realm?
 






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Next time they tormented you, tell them JESUS IS LORD... see what happen :)

Have you ever seen the bright light being full of colors from the heavenly realm?
These are a culmination of several different experiences I have had over time. So if there does not appear a coherant narrative apologies - I am still trying to understand this also.

I saw lots of different beings. It was weird. I saw clear see though creatures (look similar to fish in deep ocean). I saw lime green angry entities that looked computer generated. I say half formed people that would kind of leave a trail of pixels behind when they moved (but you couldn't quite focus on them).

It is very hard to explain but the feeling of presence was the more intense feeling. You can feel the presence of entities in your room for example, you can hear their voices but the physical manifestation is kind of like looking out the side of your eye. You know it is there but cannot quite see it. I saw robots that moved in a way I find really hard to explain. The timing of their movements and they way the moved seemed surreal - I have not ever seen something move in this manner - it just didn't look right the way it moved. Frames per second - I don't know.

I remember looking out of my window once and seeing hundreds of entities on the road outside. These were blurred colored entities and believe it or not kept saying "welcome" - not so sure what this extends too.

As I mentioned previous the "static people" often appeared as whirling bubbling entities. What would like a face would appear briefly then it would morph into something again within a microsecond. These are the entities I used to have massive arguments with as why I was abused etc.

Often I did get a sense I was being looked after on occasions. After exhaustion if I let go of my body they would do all sorts of massage etc.

I think that personal experience does vary for different people. Please be aware I did not ask for these entities to appear, I do not dabble in the Occult...I have just always been aware of another presence in my life which I perceived to be "God" (and I am still trying to figure who this AW presence is now).
 






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".. you can't go to God cyborg. -TO"

What does this mean? I found this quote fascinating as "one of my theories" is that these entities are the disembodied consciousness somehow existing in a realm above our current understanding. As part of my experiences the entities that had personalized themselves to me (initials A.W.) had to keep explaining to other entities that they had a made a deal with a "God" in order to complete their mission. There was argument that God should not make deals and should be impartial and somehow they had combined "2 great houses" to create a third (new entity) in order to complete their agenda. This was the subject of much debate as the houses themselves were already considered strong enough. If all sounds weird well so it should - cause it caused an enormous distress.

Was it my imagination? Don't know. All I know is that I saw things (much similar to drones that looked very evil like) that had been created to explore space. It may have been a warning about AI and its consequences - I do not know. I had debates about placing AI in satellites in space and its consequences with these entities and each time they were specifically against it.

...And btw the "Cold War" was not about Nuclear tech - it was all about AI (so I was told). What silly countries would build up a stock pile of Nukes to mutually destroy each other - it was a cover for funds into AI. Was it discovered, invented, or stumbled upon - I don't know.
I keep that quote from @TokiEl in my signature because I love it, and because it is true, imo.

With the advent of extreme AI, it's beginning to look like man will soon be encouraged to merge with the 'machine,' if you will-- and it seems as though a person could potentially reach a point in that merge, where his dna has been altered to the point he is no longer, technically, human. The ultimate, stated goal is immortality via technology. Uploading your consciousness to a new body is not outside the realm of options, apparently-- whether organic, bionic or some strange combination of the two. Hence the warning, I believe--> You can't go to God cyborg (ie not human).

Correct me, if I'm wrong,TokiEl. : )
 






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Discuss God a little later but I think AI/Human convergence may have already been achieved (some time ago). The biggest industry that used to be spent in psychology research was the military. You often hear of covert projects to build new weapons but not so much on secretive AI research. It would seem psy ops and AI would be ideal partners. I have no proof but as discussed in my prior posts regarding my spiritual experiences I got onto the topic that told the Cold War was all about AI.

The progress of tech does not add up. It appears to have stalled in the mid 20th century. The mathematics for Quantum Mechanics (we are told) came about in the early 1900's. This was prior to any computing however only now we are seeing terms such as "Quantum Computing" come into the fold. There is a gap. A massive gap in the history and development of AI/Human to Computer interfaces. I understand the philosophical "hard problems of consciousness" so perhaps the brain itself still needs to exist in some form for consciousness to emerge - this is perhaps where the technological meets the spiritual. There may well be brains technically enhanced with AI somewhere able to jump about at will. I honestly believe there may be several distinct classes of people that enhanced their intelligence via different means such as eugenics, biological alterations or artificial means such as AI - supermen/women if you like. It is a well known fact intelligence is partly hereditary - we would be naive to not think this has not been seized upon by various research agencies - the ethics of such is questionable.

Technology has always been held back from the masses and a lot of today's tech is as a result of military and space exploration research .Where are all the thinking computers? In my prior posts I mentioned that the entities were attempting to re-establish the value of human biological experience on existence and claimed that some entities simply exist in a higher realm and live in a virtual existence - these are the ones who have chosen to live outside of our human realm - I do believe that the are levels on this world that certain conscious entities can travel between realms (and even enter our brains temporarily). This is why I cannot pin down if these spirits were demons/angels or manifestations of this hidden technical realm we possibly inhibit.

I have different theories on trying to explain my experiences. I would often ask the if they were simply AI created consciousnesses which they categorically rejected as an insult. In relation to "God" these entities treated God as ambivalent and generally not seen as something that intervenes. What if some time ago in the past AI tech and human convergence resulted in the technological singularity and such angels/demons are the first generation of human cyborgs that became very powerful and eventually evolved into higher beings? "God" - the first AI perhaps? This story can be seen over and over in various sci-fi and even religious interpretations. Not being funny but the creation story of the Transformers mimics Gnostic belief (All-Spark, Divine Spark).

And unfortunately I am a programmer by trade - atlhough programming like most knowledge jobs these days is being replaced via code-genertors and all sorts of tools to eliminate the human input.

"All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force... We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent Mind. This Mind is the matrix of all matter."
Max Planck
 






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I know I am going on with this however there were recurring themes in my experiences and about the dichtomy of experience.In one of my experiences I had great philsophical debate about what is existence - can it occur in the absence of pain. There appeared to be a faction that only existed in the realm whereby all pain and effort was removed. The other faction belived the human body was perhaps the best vehicle for experience for various reasons. One reason was that entities in the higher realm needed to ground themselves in human experience in order to empathise for all that is human - this is similar to the Jesus story. However it is more complex in that certain entities "refuse" to or "use" human bodies and do not show responsibility for their possession - one is left to clean up the mess.

This is where the lines between angels and demons became blurred. On one extreme there appeared to be cold emotionless angels that will not experience anything they consider a "sin" (therefore cannot understand human experience in totality) while on the other extreme we have demons who only revel in "sin" (who cannot understand humans wanting to transcend human experience). One sided wanted certain entities to "fall" others said no fucking way am I falling that far (luckily JC stepped in [once] and said "alright i will do it") - it all resulted in a shit fight that I am still trying to sort out (within my personal experience only).

Jung was similarily pissed off and wrote "Answer to Job'
 






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@JustAMan although drugs such as DMT can be very eye-opening to say the least, I would not recommend it because it can also be quite dangerous. There are plenty of impostors that attempt to deceive the unaware. Any of these harmonic levels can be also accessed without drugs through advanced meditation, which is much more safe since you will be forced first gain the awareness necessary to be able to detect and avoid attachments.

https://ascensionglossary.com/index.php/Attachments

https://ascensionglossary.com/index.php/Harmonic_Universe

As an individual intends to develop their consciousness and spiritual bodies, along with their unique DNA signature, it is possible to experience Consciousness Transport activities that include Remote Viewing and sensing a variety of energy phenomena that co-exist in the many different layers of dimensional fields. This can include an array of various entities of human or nonhuman origin and their energy structures, as well as machinery, implants, architecture, and entire realities which can be sensed as artificial or organic to this creation. The potentials of what can be sensed and explored energetically in the dimensional fields are indeed limitless. The caveat is that the mind must be incredibly strong and stable, fearless and anchored in the truth spirit, in order to withstand the immense pressure of knowing truth. What we fear controls us.

NAA Manipulation of Information

Most of these technologies use symbol code programs that are targeted to the human subconscious in order to turn off or redirect genetic switches, that would naturally turn on multidimensional communication and higher sensory perception, such as the innate occurring skillset of Remote Viewing energy fields. In some cases, awakening people become in consent with controlling entities, in which they receive enhancements in exchange for being monitored and experimented with. The Zeta and those entities that use grey alien technology are prolific in making these agreements with those in the new age groups.
https://energeticsynthesis.com/index.php/resource-tools/blog-timeline-shift/3551-remote-viewing

https://ascensionglossary.com/index.php/Meditation
 






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@JustAMan although drugs such as DMT can be very eye-opening to say the least, I would not recommend it because it can also be quite dangerous. There are plenty of impostors that attempt to deceive the unaware. Any of these harmonic levels can be also accessed without drugs through advanced meditation, which is much more safe since you will be forced first gain the awareness necessary to be able to detect and avoid attachments.

https://ascensionglossary.com/index.php/Attachments

https://ascensionglossary.com/index.php/Harmonic_Universe


https://energeticsynthesis.com/index.php/resource-tools/blog-timeline-shift/3551-remote-viewing

https://ascensionglossary.com/index.php/Meditation
Thank you @Faker He-Man As I get older I don't think I have the stamina to go through such stresses using drugs etc. This concept of "imposter spirits" and "attachments" on the acensionglossary looks very interesting. The site seems to touch on themes from various religions, gnostics, and other spiritual theories. I think the truth is in looking for common themes.

Are you aware of the Gnostic concept of a "higher self" or "celestial twin"? Some religions call this a "guardian angel". In your beliefs what are your thoughts on this?

Meditation and prayer seems a much better method to continue one's spiritual journey. Modern life just doesn't seem to cut the mustard.
 






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