It probably deserves a thread on its own but don't believe everything you were taught about the Nazis in grade 10 history class. There are laws in place which don't allow you to question "their" version of the Holocaust. That should tell you everything you need to know right there. Exactly, like I said fact check the chart yourself and you will see it's accurate.
Proof That The Illuminati Control The Media
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Not only the Holocaust but everything associate with Nazis, country ravaged, people dead, the beginning of the nuclear race, a man so egotistical he preferred dying than accepting defeat.
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But the chart isn't telling the truth. You posted it before and I showed how half those people are not even in those positions. You're just trying to excuse the fact that you post racist crap.
Nice try buddy but stop lying why don't you. You said that the chart is from 2013 and that some people on the chart are no longer listed now in the present but I replied and showed you that yes, that some of them are no longer on the list but their replacement was almost always another Jew.
Folks Thunderian is straight up lying and I urge you to check the names on the list and you will see that everything I'm saying is accurate. The more you comment the more of your lying self is exposed and the more I believe you're not what or who you claim you are.
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You post racist crap.
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He's not a racist. Fact is, they are mostly Jews those who own the media and who, through it, propagate falsehood.
However, even they can be saved, if they return to God sincerely. Maybe you could be the means through whom they mend their ways.
It's only racist because it goes against the people that pay you to post on these boards anytime the word Israel, Zionist, and or Jew gets posted
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Can you confirm this, brother? I'm intrigued.It's only racist because it goes against the people that pay you to post on these boards anytime the word Israel, Zionist, and or Jew gets posted
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The image "Who controls your mind? 2013" below claims that a very large proportion of the US media companies have Presidents, CEOs, Founders, Owners, Vice Presidents and Chairs that are Jewish.
It can be found on many anti-semetic sites such as Stormfront Forums, WatchDogWire, and White Man March. [Note: These links are NSFW, and contain material that may be disturbing.]
Is it accurate and representative? Is it true that American media is mostly (i.e. more than 50%) controlled by people of Jewish origin?
The methodology of the supposed table is wrong.
The table cherry picks its data points.
The table has factual errors.
At first, we need to address the main question, "Do Jews control American Media?". This is a problematic statement, as it's conspiratorial by nature. The problem with such claims is, as Larian LeQuella put in his answer on Can HAARP affect weather or earthquakes?:
The "beauty" of a conspiracy theory is that no matter what evidence is presented, there is a "talk around" for the believer. No matter what answer is given, they will have a more conspiratorial rebuttal for that.
The table tries to "prove" the claim that the American media is controlled by Jews by showing the supposed large number of Jewish executives in media companies. Before we go over the factual errors and the misrepresentation, we need to address the faulty logic behind this attempt at proof. The table shows us the executives of the companies, while executives have power over the content generated by their company, it is arguably lesser than the influence held by people actually creating the content itself - the writers, reporters, directors, actors, producers, editors and other people involved with the creative process. The table doesn't try to explain why does the Steven Spielberg, as the founder of Dreamworks animation, has more influence on the American media and culture than Steven Spielberg, as the director who won two Oscars on WWII films, one depicting the life of a German businessman who saved Jews during the Holocaust, and one depicting the exploits of a squad of American soldiers looking for another soldier on the western front of WWII.
The table also puts Vice Presidents of a company as having the same influence as CEOs, Presidents and Chairpersons of the board, which is not true for all VPs. One example is the Associated Press; their site, shows they have eight VPs. Of those, the author of the table chose to put Jessica Bruce, the director of HR, and Kathleen Carroll, the executive editor. Surely the head of HR doesn't have the same influence as the executive editor. Moreover the VPs who control the financial aspects didn't made the list. Surely if a CEO controls content because they control the money, the Chief Financial Officer of AP should make the list of influential figures together with (if not instead of) the head of HR. AP is not the only company with more executives that the table claims. NBC entertainment has 28 executives listed on their site. Google has 6 executive officers and another 7 senior leaders. The same goes to Fox News, The New York Times and many others.
The table includes the founders of a company, many of whom - like Walt Disney, Carl Laemmle, Albert Warner and others - have been dead for decades, and could no longer have direct influence on the American media and culture.
The table doesn't differentiate between media that generates independent content and media which is merely a platform for user generated content. For example, the News channels and film companies create their own content, while the content that appears on Facebook, Google and YouTube is not generated by the owners or employees but by the users. Nine of the ten most subscribed YouTube channels by days are operated by private non-Jewish people, and one is the official channel of YouTube.
It also doesn't differentiate between demographics. Disney appeals to younger demographic than News companies. The demographic a company appeals to can be very influential on its effect on the media as the susceptibility of people changes with age.
It is misrepresentative as there are many people who appear several times in the table, people like Mark Zuckerberg, Rupert Murdoch, Marissa Mayer and others. So a person like Mark Zuckerberg, who is the President, CEO, Founder, owner and chairman of Facebook appears more times on the table than the President and CEO of a major news network (Roger Ailes from Fox News).
The table is cherry-pickeded. Not every company has been put on the table. e.g. Facebook is on, but not Instagram, Twitter and other social platforms. The table includes MTV but not VH1, Marvel but not DC comics. I'm sure that there are other major media companies which are absent from the table.
The question of whether a person is Jewish or not can be complicated, as there is a duality of religion and nationality. According to Jewish religious law, everyone who is born to a Jewish mother is a Jew. The only other way to become a Jew is through a conversion process. But once a person is a Jew (whether by birth or otherwise), in the eyes of the religious law that person will always stay a Jew, even if they convert to another religion. A person born to a Jewish father and a non Jewish mother is, at the eyes of the religious law and tradition, isn't a Jew.
Many people are atheist, but see their Jewish heritage as a cultural heritage, in a way familiar to Americans with Irish, German, Italian and other ancestors in the USA. A good example for this is Jon Stewart, who isn't a religious person, yet on his show he constantly talks about his Jewish heritage, about the Jewish traditions and identifies with Jewish stereotypes.
Finally, for the sake of this answer we must accept the criteria that is put by the claim. The claim is made by a racist society that tries to convince us that there is a Jewish conspiracy to take over the media/banks/world. They are not very interested in the religious and cultural identity of each individual, so for the sake of this answer, I take the broadest definition possible: who ever has Jewish ancestry from either side of their family or is a converted Jew. So under this definition, everyone who is a Jew according to the Jewish religion is counted, as well as whoever has Jewish ancestry only from their father's side. It will include atheist and non practicing Jews, as well as Jews who converted to another religion (if there are any who are relevant). This is a very broad definition and it will also include people like Benjamin Disraeli, Karl Marx. If there are any people who were Jews but latter converted, I'll note that.
More on who is a Jew can be read in the Wikipedia article, and on other sources online (The Economist, JewFAQ.com...).
Some of the sources for showing that a person is not Jewish, are racist blogs with no sources. This is only used when no other better sources are found, and under the assumption that a racist blog will not let a Jew or even a suspected Jew to "escape".
https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/19974/are-american-media-controlled-mostly-by-jews
It can be found on many anti-semetic sites such as Stormfront Forums, WatchDogWire, and White Man March. [Note: These links are NSFW, and contain material that may be disturbing.]
Is it accurate and representative? Is it true that American media is mostly (i.e. more than 50%) controlled by people of Jewish origin?
The methodology of the supposed table is wrong.
The table cherry picks its data points.
The table has factual errors.
At first, we need to address the main question, "Do Jews control American Media?". This is a problematic statement, as it's conspiratorial by nature. The problem with such claims is, as Larian LeQuella put in his answer on Can HAARP affect weather or earthquakes?:
The "beauty" of a conspiracy theory is that no matter what evidence is presented, there is a "talk around" for the believer. No matter what answer is given, they will have a more conspiratorial rebuttal for that.
The table tries to "prove" the claim that the American media is controlled by Jews by showing the supposed large number of Jewish executives in media companies. Before we go over the factual errors and the misrepresentation, we need to address the faulty logic behind this attempt at proof. The table shows us the executives of the companies, while executives have power over the content generated by their company, it is arguably lesser than the influence held by people actually creating the content itself - the writers, reporters, directors, actors, producers, editors and other people involved with the creative process. The table doesn't try to explain why does the Steven Spielberg, as the founder of Dreamworks animation, has more influence on the American media and culture than Steven Spielberg, as the director who won two Oscars on WWII films, one depicting the life of a German businessman who saved Jews during the Holocaust, and one depicting the exploits of a squad of American soldiers looking for another soldier on the western front of WWII.
The table also puts Vice Presidents of a company as having the same influence as CEOs, Presidents and Chairpersons of the board, which is not true for all VPs. One example is the Associated Press; their site, shows they have eight VPs. Of those, the author of the table chose to put Jessica Bruce, the director of HR, and Kathleen Carroll, the executive editor. Surely the head of HR doesn't have the same influence as the executive editor. Moreover the VPs who control the financial aspects didn't made the list. Surely if a CEO controls content because they control the money, the Chief Financial Officer of AP should make the list of influential figures together with (if not instead of) the head of HR. AP is not the only company with more executives that the table claims. NBC entertainment has 28 executives listed on their site. Google has 6 executive officers and another 7 senior leaders. The same goes to Fox News, The New York Times and many others.
The table includes the founders of a company, many of whom - like Walt Disney, Carl Laemmle, Albert Warner and others - have been dead for decades, and could no longer have direct influence on the American media and culture.
The table doesn't differentiate between media that generates independent content and media which is merely a platform for user generated content. For example, the News channels and film companies create their own content, while the content that appears on Facebook, Google and YouTube is not generated by the owners or employees but by the users. Nine of the ten most subscribed YouTube channels by days are operated by private non-Jewish people, and one is the official channel of YouTube.
It also doesn't differentiate between demographics. Disney appeals to younger demographic than News companies. The demographic a company appeals to can be very influential on its effect on the media as the susceptibility of people changes with age.
It is misrepresentative as there are many people who appear several times in the table, people like Mark Zuckerberg, Rupert Murdoch, Marissa Mayer and others. So a person like Mark Zuckerberg, who is the President, CEO, Founder, owner and chairman of Facebook appears more times on the table than the President and CEO of a major news network (Roger Ailes from Fox News).
The table is cherry-pickeded. Not every company has been put on the table. e.g. Facebook is on, but not Instagram, Twitter and other social platforms. The table includes MTV but not VH1, Marvel but not DC comics. I'm sure that there are other major media companies which are absent from the table.
The question of whether a person is Jewish or not can be complicated, as there is a duality of religion and nationality. According to Jewish religious law, everyone who is born to a Jewish mother is a Jew. The only other way to become a Jew is through a conversion process. But once a person is a Jew (whether by birth or otherwise), in the eyes of the religious law that person will always stay a Jew, even if they convert to another religion. A person born to a Jewish father and a non Jewish mother is, at the eyes of the religious law and tradition, isn't a Jew.
Many people are atheist, but see their Jewish heritage as a cultural heritage, in a way familiar to Americans with Irish, German, Italian and other ancestors in the USA. A good example for this is Jon Stewart, who isn't a religious person, yet on his show he constantly talks about his Jewish heritage, about the Jewish traditions and identifies with Jewish stereotypes.
Finally, for the sake of this answer we must accept the criteria that is put by the claim. The claim is made by a racist society that tries to convince us that there is a Jewish conspiracy to take over the media/banks/world. They are not very interested in the religious and cultural identity of each individual, so for the sake of this answer, I take the broadest definition possible: who ever has Jewish ancestry from either side of their family or is a converted Jew. So under this definition, everyone who is a Jew according to the Jewish religion is counted, as well as whoever has Jewish ancestry only from their father's side. It will include atheist and non practicing Jews, as well as Jews who converted to another religion (if there are any who are relevant). This is a very broad definition and it will also include people like Benjamin Disraeli, Karl Marx. If there are any people who were Jews but latter converted, I'll note that.
More on who is a Jew can be read in the Wikipedia article, and on other sources online (The Economist, JewFAQ.com...).
Some of the sources for showing that a person is not Jewish, are racist blogs with no sources. This is only used when no other better sources are found, and under the assumption that a racist blog will not let a Jew or even a suspected Jew to "escape".
https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/19974/are-american-media-controlled-mostly-by-jews
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After reading his posts for several years, I can confirm that Kung Fu is a racist simpleton who will say anything to avoid admitting his own ignorance and bigotry.
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no what do they speak of?
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Real History vs. Hollywood History -- "DUNKIRK"
Allies trapped on the beach. Hitler's Luftwaffe (Air Force) could easily have taken the entire Allied force prisoner. Notice how the actual photo above of the event (Image 1) depicts a calm, methodical and unhindered slow escape. --- no German air attacks! Image 2, from the new movie, falsely portrays the "great escape" as taking place under German aircraft fire.
Allies trapped on the beach. Hitler's Luftwaffe (Air Force) could easily have taken the entire Allied force prisoner. Notice how the actual photo above of the event (Image 1) depicts a calm, methodical and unhindered slow escape. --- no German air attacks! Image 2, from the new movie, falsely portrays the "great escape" as taking place under German aircraft fire.
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"Trade in ya history for a VCR..." -- Rage Against The Machine "No Shelter"
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LOL! This actually just proved the chart to be right. Not once did they deny any of the names on the chart as being Jewish. It basically claimed yes, they're Jews but it's cultural, or they don't care that their Jewish, blah, blah, blah. Never once did they disprove anything the chart actually had to say. Nice try though.
I didn't know it was racist to speak a fact. Hollywood is run mainly by Jews, the banks are run mainly by Jews, the pornography industry is run mainly by Jews, and the media is run mainly by Jews. It's only racist because it's your job to claim it's racist any time the Jews are mentioned.
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They should be hated for them being evil, not for being jewish.
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When I was doing an elective course back in school for my Medias Study class I remember going over a lot of material that was predominately run by people of Jewish background. The New York Times, Washington Post, Walt Disney Corporation, and all the other major media conglomerates had either been started up by Jews or are currently run by Jewish people in influential positions.
Hollywood is a whole other issue which it itself as the documentary KF posted was created by Eastern European Jews.
Hollywood is a whole other issue which it itself as the documentary KF posted was created by Eastern European Jews.
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Who runs Hollywood? C'mon
December 19th, 2008|JOEL STEIN
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/dec/19/opinion/oe-stein19
"But I don't care if Americans think we're running the news media, Hollywood, Wall Street or the government. I just care that we get to keep running them."
No spin. Just truth. If for whatever reason you don't like it, at least you can respect it....
(Btw I just noticed this was written Christmas week. Timing or coincidence?)
They immediately rebroadcast this roast as soon as it ended and that bit Nick Kroll did about the media was promptly removed. Still, one of the funniest roasts CC has done. Most roasts are brass knuckle but this was death by 1000 cuts. Razor sharp burns all night.
December 19th, 2008|JOEL STEIN
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/dec/19/opinion/oe-stein19
"But I don't care if Americans think we're running the news media, Hollywood, Wall Street or the government. I just care that we get to keep running them."
No spin. Just truth. If for whatever reason you don't like it, at least you can respect it....
(Btw I just noticed this was written Christmas week. Timing or coincidence?)
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