Prohibition of drugs. Criminals love to see it. Why do we make their day?

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Prohibition of drugs. Criminals love to see it. Why do we make their day?

You will know why criminals love to see us prohibit the various social drugs that we and our children consume.

Why did you vote to make their day?

Why are we fighting a drug war against our own children when our intelligentsia pushes for drug legalization so that we can then control in a better way what we and our children consume?

Our children are the ones dying due to our drug war, --- while we adults hide behind legislation that criminals love to see?

Regards
DL

 

[Lisa]

Prohibition of drugs. Criminals love to see it. Why do we make their day?

You will know why criminals love to see us prohibit the various social drugs that we and our children consume.

Why did you vote to make their day?

Why are we fighting a drug war against our own children when our intelligentsia pushes for drug legalization so that we can then control in a better way what we and our children consume?

Our children are the ones dying due to our drug war, --- while we adults hide behind legislation that criminals love to see?

Regards
DL

So, make it legal and put them out of business? Is that what you’re advocating?

 

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

So, make it legal and put them out of business? Is that what you’re advocating?

I am advocating that we protect our children instead of adding to their problems.

That would include bringing all drugs under the medical umbrella instead of the legal umbrella, and yes, that would include putting the criminal element out of business.

I advocate following the drug intelligentsia on this issue. What is the point of having experts if we are not going to take their advice.

Especially when the harms have been shown to be reduced where drugs are legal.

Regards
DL

 

[Lisa]

Especially when the harms have been shown to be reduced where drugs are legal.

Regards
DL

How’s that?

 

[Lurker]

How’s that?

Refer to Amsterdam or Portugal.

 

[Lisa]

Refer to Amsterdam or Portugal.

They might not arrest people anymore, but I’m sure the harm is still there.

 

[Aero]

We didn't vote for drug prohibition. And I don't think our parent's generation did either. The problem is our parent's generation took the bait, hook line and sinker. They essentially sat there while substance abuse went from a public health crisis to a way to vilify whoever was deemed "bad".

 

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

How’s that?

A reduction in overall use and an end to the criminal element.

Regards
DL

 

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

They might not arrest people anymore, but I’m sure the harm is still there.

Too lazy to do a bit of research. Tsk tsk.

That is why you make such ill informed statements.

Regards
DL

 

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

We didn't vote for drug prohibition. And I don't think our parent's generation did either. The problem is our parent's generation took the bait, hook line and sinker. They essentially sat there while substance abuse went from a public health crisis to a way to vilify whoever was deemed "bad".

There is much truth in this, but have you noted how slow to go the U.S. is on legalization of pot due to the tobacco and alcohol lobbies bribing the politicians?

Those two products alone cause more harm to life than all the other drugs put together.

We collectively think as you do but are not doing much of anything to change our ways and continue to abuse our young by warring against them.

Regards
DL

 

[Aero]

There is much truth in this, but have you noted how slow to go the U.S. is on legalization of pot due to the tobacco and alcohol lobbies bribing the politicians?

Those two products alone cause more harm to life than all the other drugs put together.

We collectively think as you do but are not doing much of anything to change our ways and continue to abuse our young by warring against them.

Regards
DL

Everyone is about "positivity" until it's time to actually do something. When that time comes they will rationalize a million reasons to do nothing, all while convincing themselves they live a positive life.

If you are an American, you were pretty much born a selfish clown. The politicians know it, the media knows it and the corporations know it. The only people who don't know it must have an aversion to rational thought.

"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." - Plato

 

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Everyone is about "positivity" until it's time to actually do something. When that time comes they will rationalize a million reasons to do nothing, all while convincing themselves they live a positive life.

If you are an American, you were pretty much born a selfish clown. The politicians know it, the media knows it and the corporations know it. The only people who don't know it must have an aversion to rational thought.

"One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." - Plato

That is a part of why Socrates hated democracy.

Even back then, he knew that leadership was trainable and that most who were leading were poor leaders.

Today, I think he would promote letting scientists be the ones to rule.

That is what those concerned with our eco system are also looking for. A scientist on our eco system to be given the power of a Czar.

Regards
DL

 

[Lisa]

Too lazy to do a bit of research. Tsk tsk.

That is why you make such ill informed statements.

Regards
DL

Drugs are never harmless.

 

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Drugs are never harmless.

Correct.

Have you noted that the legal drugs like alcohol and tobacco individually kill more people than all the other social drugs combined?

Why do you think we have done such a stupid thing?

Regards
DL

 

[Lisa]

Correct.

Have you noted that the legal drugs like alcohol and tobacco individually kill more people than all the other social drugs combined?

Why do you think we have done such a stupid thing?

Regards
DL

Idk why is that?

 

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Idk why is that?

Think alcohol and tobacco lobbies that bribe our law makers who protect the immoral and really stupid status quo.

Read up on how they worked to kill the cannabis legalization bills in California for a good example of this criminal activity.

Regards
DL

 

[Lisa]

Think alcohol and tobacco lobbies that bribe our law makers who protect the immoral and really stupid status quo.

Read up on how they worked to kill the cannabis legalization bills in California for a good example of this criminal activity.

Regards
DL

I thought marijuana was legal in California?

 

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

I thought marijuana was legal in California?

Now, yes, in state law, not in federal law.

That is why the feds still raid legal operations there.

Speak to the larger issues of Americans warring against your own children.

Regards
DL

 

[Lisa]

Now, yes, in state law, not in federal law.

That is why the feds still raid legal operations there.

Speak to the larger issues of Americans warring against your own children.

Regards
DL

Haven’t heard the feds raid them.

I’m sure Canadians have the same issues, I'm sure @Thunderian can answer to that better than I.

I don’t think the answer is making everything legal just to also make the illegal activity legal. Sounds like it defeats the purpose and everyone loses. Some things should be illegal and punished. Ya you can drink but if you drive that’s punishable. I’d you hurt someone while drunk that’s punishable. I’d you smoke you have an unhealthy future ahead of you...but who doesn’t we all die. However, if you can break your smoking habit, the body is miraculous and there doesn’t have to be long lasting affects from it, you can gain health again. My dad quit smoking and he seems to be in great health, my aunt still smokes and has health issues because of it.

 

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Haven’t heard the feds raid them.

I’m sure Canadians have the same issues, I'm sure @Thunderian can answer to that better than I.

I don’t think the answer is making everything legal just to also make the illegal activity legal. Sounds like it defeats the purpose and everyone loses. .

Except for drug users in total whose numbers go down.

We war against our own children in a war that we cannot win and so many just don't care.

Regards
DL