Progressive Paradise

[Lurker]

most Kmart and Sears went out of business

I miss them both.

 

[justjess]

I’m not advocating anything but saying larger companies can employee more people at different rates of pay, offer benefits and promote from within.
While mom and pops might only pay minimum wages and can’t offer the type of benefits people want. They also have family members that come before you and always will. Could be a dead end job unless you like them, the job and are ok with the pay.

Sears holdings is still in business from what I know..although their ceo has been tearing down that company for years.

You own a mom and pop. You say you give your employees benefits. You say you pay them fairly. Your using EXTREME stereotypes and inaccurate information on both ends to make an argument which isn’t grounded in reality whatsoever

 

[Lisa]

A local hardware survived Scotty's (home improvement store pre-home depot) then a Home depot (Scotty's folded) many tears go by and the city/county added medians and basically killed the business. there's more to it than competition.

Do tell us about those great benefits.

So both owners were sexist?

Ya you have to watch out for the government..it only gets in your way.

Health and dental, paid time off, competitive wages..with other retail. They also try to say that you have flexible hours..but it’s only flexible for them..if they are like sears.

Well, I think the wife wasn’t but she didn’t get much time with the man as her husband monopolized him. Idk if that’s too bad a thing anyway. But it definitely happened.

 

[Lisa]

You own a mom and pop. You say you give your employees benefits. You say you pay them fairly. Your using EXTREME stereotypes and inaccurate information on both ends to make an argument which isn’t grounded in reality whatsoever

I’m using my own working for mom and pops experience not what my husband and his partner do.

And before you say anything when I met my husband he had his own business. He took on a partner years later which damaged that business. After our child was born he went to work for another company who then made him part owner in that company.

 

[Aero]

Nothing is a sure thing in life. Most big companies have longevity though.

Maybe mom and pop have to figure out a niche/specialty store and compete that way? But they employee a lot less people and can’t usually offer benefits like Walmart can. Though they could end up caring about you or not. One mom and pop I worked for the male owner only liked the male employee...and boy was he awesome in his eyes and the female owner liked us girls.

I want to open up a specialty store myself one of these days.

I don't see the problem with giving people a sure path to prosperity. Like if you achieve x, y, and z you will receive a, b, and c. Apparently that's too socialistic for the capitalists.

Niche marketing is pretty big, but each individual niche is catering to a very small section of the population. Besides, if you offer some service that catches fire, all the big box stores will literally copy whatever you are doing. So your secured niche suddenly has to compete with the Wal-Marts and Targets of the world.

Hopefully, you reconsider where your logic actually leads to though. America is going to end up dominated by a few corporations, and everything else will be gone. We have already seen it happen in several industries. Cable Television companies are already at this stage. There's so few of them that they don't compete with each other. They just sit within their market share and reap all the rewards, while also making sure to swallow up anyone trying to start their own cable service.

 

[Aero]

You seem to have the attitude that if you can't be CEO or build an Amazon, why bother because it's all rigged, blah blah blah. This is self-defeating and basically making excuses. No, you're not the next Elon Musk, but that should not stop you from trying to get to the next level of whatever it is you want.

Who told you any of this would be easy and that there would not be competition? Competition is what makes us grow, learn, and challenge ourselves. Advancement means you have to set yourself apart somehow and actively fight for what you want. Figure out where you want to be, and then do the work and self-improvement to get there. Update skills? Work on better co-worker and team relationships? Management courses? Change to a more employee focused company? Better work ethic? Lose the entitled and defeatist attitude?

If you're not willing to do that, then just keep telling yourself it's all rigged against you and stay exactly where you are. I wish you the best, but it's up to you.

Thanks for the personal advice. But we aren't talking about me. We are talking about progressive policies vs capitalistic policies.

 

[Lisa]

 

[Lisa]

 

[Kung Fu]

Lol Lisa is still living in the 60s. Newsflash grandma the price of things have definitely gone and that too a lot faster than people's wages have. It's an academic fact.

 

[Lisa]

Lol Lisa is still living in the 60s. Newsflash grandma the price of things have definitely gone and that too a lot faster than people's wages have. It's an academic fact.

Everything is always a little out of reach.