mecca
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It's not an opinion when something falls under and exact definition and is accepted by everyone.All I keep reading on this subject are OPINIONS.
It's not an opinion when something falls under and exact definition and is accepted by everyone.All I keep reading on this subject are OPINIONS.
We're all living beings made by God.There are some plants that can go by this definition but they're not considered animals. Like I said it's an opinion and in no way a fact. For all, we know they can change that definition tomorrow to include all plants and all trees.
It's very much an opinion. The English language isn't mathematics or astrology. Words and their meanings change all the time.It's not an opinion when something falls under and exact definition and is accepted by everyone.
I think you are presuming that every Bible, Quran and Hebrew thumper actually believe that. Here I'll fix it. Humans being animals is accepted by everyone in the scientific community, and everyone with an education. It's accepted by Hinduism, Buddhism, Satanists for sure. Luciferians probably all believe they are werewolves.It's very much an opinion. The English language isn't mathematics or astrology. Words and their meanings change all the time.
Also, I don't know if you're slow in the head or not but you do know that most of the world's population belong to either Christianity and or Islam and none of those religions consider humans to be animals? So again you people that consider humans to be animals are in a very small minority. "Accepted by everyone" lol.
I think you misunderstood his research, for your own spin. Which is fine, because I will simply counter your spin. His research suggests the only difference is consciousness. Basically a bigger brain, that can hold more memories.Even if the biological and neurological components required to, say, design and build a computer are present in bits and pieces of other animals, it is their confluence that is found in us. Perhaps every animal is different in its own way, but let’s be clear: as a species, we can do things that other animals could never even dream of. We have the ability to liberate ourselves from our biology and change our environment in conscious ways that all other animals cannot. We may be animals, but we’re not animals. -Adam J Calhoun
I find the part where he mentions being able to consciously change the environment quite intriguing. In ecosystems everything is a delicate balance in that frogs are just as necessary as snakes are as the mongoose is. Disrupt some element, say mosquitoes, to a certain extent and extinction and starvation and even migration may occur.
To not be too lengthy, the point I am trying to make is that where animals are seemingly cogs in the machine humans can manage, maintain, improve, destroy and ultimately alter the world they live in. Crossing frontiers that animals cannot going beyond the physical confines
But I am not superior to animals? I am not worthy of dominion? Instead I am likened to lesser creatures and told that the behavior of beast manifest in humankind is perfectly acceptable?
This isn't about religion or God this should be intrinsic yet some would relate us to beast and deny us our progress and achievements. Despite our failings and fragile nature humans are superior but yet this isn't allowed to be a fact anymore.
There was no misunderstanding.I think you misunderstood his research, for your own spin. Which is fine, because I will simply counter your spin. His research suggests the only difference is consciousness. Basically a bigger brain, that can hold more memories.
That's not crossing frontiers. I'm not exactly sure what your point was.Animals cross plenty of frontiers. They build houses, they destroy and improve environments. They just aren't thinking "hey i really want to bang" before they bang. They just do it by instinct.
Animals get 'beat' by bugs too? So are you implying that animals are superior?But we are so superior, we get beat by bugs. Yeah we have come far, and we are the best lesser creature. But we are lesser creatures.
Why should I quote his research? You didn't. I don't think you even read his actual research. Just the article he wrote about it. But I'll play this game and quote his article just to fit my agenda.There was no misunderstanding.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/neuroecology.wordpress.com/2014/06/19/humans-are-animals-but-humans-arent-animals/amp/
There was no spin nor was I asking anyone to agree with me. Any links to his research in relation to the subject at hand?
That's not crossing frontiers. I'm not exactly sure what your point was.
Animals get 'beat' by bugs too? So are you implying that animals are superior?
What does this even mean? Just because humans are animals doesn't mean we can just be barbaric without consequence... we are better than that.the behavior of beast manifest in humankind is perfectly acceptable?
exactlyI just can't take inhumane treatment of animals. I'm not in the camp that says they should have equal rights, but let's be real. We need animals, we need all these trees. The attitude that we are some godlike creature because brains, is dangerous. People like that are fine to wipe everything out, and leave a wasteland for our grandchildren.
Why should I quote his research? You didn't. I don't think you even read his actual research. Just the article he wrote about it. But I'll play this game and quote his article just to fit my agenda.
"Other animals may share the same kind of motivations and decision-making"
"We certainly do have neural structures for decision-making and learning about value that are the same as rats and monkeys"
"Even if the biological and neurological components required to, say, design and build a computer are present in bits and pieces of other animals, it is their confluence that is found in us"
His research supports the fact that we are animals.
What does this even mean? Just because humans are animals doesn't mean we can just be barbaric without consequence... we are better than that.
False.Humans being animals is accepted by everyone in the scientific community
False.and everyone with an education.
FalseThe dominant religions gained power through fear and oppression.
It would make sense that God used an identical blueprint for all of His creations. However, there is a fundamental difference between us humans and the rest of the animal kingdom. Also, not all scientists hold the view that humans are animals. Nice try though.Plenty of studies have been done that show just how similar we are to our animal cousins. So I'll believe the scientists, you people can believe the burning bush someone else saw.
Okay, well most animals aren't barbaric anyway. They just do what they have to in order to survive.That was my point.
Do share your vast scientific knowledge with the rest of us.False.
False.
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It would make sense that God used an identical blueprint for all of His creations. However, there is a fundamental difference between us humans and the rest of the animal kingdom. Also, not all scientists hold the view that humans are animals. Nice try though.
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