Swiftturtle
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Ive been wondering if he’s going to have features from current Christian artists- tho that would cut into his $ share if he’s doing this all for $. Having Tasha Cobbs & Lecrae as features would not only get the attention of Tasha’s gospel/worship crowd, but also Lecrae’s Christian rap crowd. If he is genuine about this life change & the reverence of praise music, entering that genre with people those genres already love would be the smart thing to do. Idk if Tasha and Lecrae would risk their reputations though. Ohhh, or Koryn Hawthorne...Koryn has a song with Lecrae...Who knows?!
https://hypebeast.com/2019/9/kanye-west-jesus-is-king-album-release-date-confirmation
Well worth suspicious yet open-minded consideration when it comes out!!!
I have always found Paul’s pragmatism on the preaching of the Gospel interesting:-Ive been wondering if he’s going to have features from current Christian artists- tho that would cut into his $ share if he’s doing this all for $. Having Tasha Cobbs & Lecrae as features would not only get the attention of Tasha’s gospel/worship crowd, but also Lecrae’s Christian rap crowd. If he is genuine about this life change & the reverence of praise music, entering that genre with people those genres already love would be the smart thing to do. Idk if Tasha and Lecrae would risk their reputations though. Ohhh, or Koryn Hawthorne...Koryn has a song with Lecrae...
If he hadn’t literally torched his past connections, and continued to be loud about it, I’d say it was definitely a gimmick. I worry that he got ordained (yes..seriously...he apparently did), yet a kid in Awana could probably scorch him in Biblical knowledge. I don’t think he has a pastor that’s guiding him, or being a spiritual leader, and that’s a red flag.
If he’s wanting to just do music, that’s one thing to assess...but if he’s thinking he’s going to suddenly be a ‘pastor’ of a church...that’s a problem from the jump.
I will be shocked if he doesn’t take this album on tour like all other Christian artists do when they have a new record. That’ll be interesting bc he’ll have holdover old fans, new gospel fans, and ppl that will go just to say “I have got to see this, this is crazy.” I bet it’ll sell out stadiums...
Yessss, so true. I was texting my sister and we share that sentiment. It’s so bizarre, but this is a whiplash to our current culture that I think literally only Kanye could pull off. I can’t think of anyone else that holds such a huge platform after willingly burning his career down- against jayz no less. And, there’s a completely different vibe with joyful praise music than anything secular music offers. He’ll be the reason thousands of ppl experience it for the first time. It’s like that song ‘I can only Imagine.’ It was playing on every type of station, and the secular music world was baffled- but ppl were feeling something in that song that secular songs can’t do.I have always found Paul’s pragmatism on the preaching of the Gospel interesting:-
Philippians 1
“15 Some indeed preach Christ even from envy and strife, and some also from goodwill: 16 The former preach Christ from selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my chains; 17 but the latter out of love, knowing that I am appointed for the defense of the gospel. 18 What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is preached; and in this I rejoice, yes, and will rejoice.”
I got to thinking that during the late 60s the culture was immersed in drugs, “free sex”, Eastern religions and gripped by fear of world events. Out of that movement, “whosoever’s” like Barry McGuire who sang “Eve of Destruction” and Bob Dylan became Christians and the “Jesus Movement”, which ran, in some ways as a counterculture, made a huge impact.Yessss, so true. I was texting my sister and we share that sentiment. It’s so bizarre, but this is a whiplash to our current culture that I think literally only Kanye could pull off. I can’t think of anyone else that holds such a huge platform after willingly burning his career down- against jayz no less. And, there’s a completely different vibe with joyful praise music than anything secular music offers. He’ll be the reason thousands of ppl experience it for the first time. It’s like that song ‘I can only Imagine.’ It was playing on every type of station, and the secular music world was baffled- but ppl were feeling something in that song that secular songs can’t do.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/2019/09/16/kanye-west-delivers-fiery-hours-long-sermon-to-jam-packed-atlanta-church-preaches-radical-obedience-to-jesus-christ/amp
I remember reading that they didn’t want him to do ‘Jesus Walks’ bc it wouldn’t be played so it wouldn’t sell. But Kanye is Kanye and he did it anyway. I think you’re right about his mother- losing her kind of sent him on a spiral, I just wonder which kind. I think it was guilt bc he paid for her plastic surgery, but then there are those ppl that constantly talk about someone close having to die before they’re allowed to ‘make it big.’ Idk..just seems weird. Whether he’s seeking God is a heart thing like you said, but it is definitely giving a platform I never expected!Before Kanye was rememberd for his ego, he put out a song called Jesus Walks. He had hints of at least believing in God on his album and it was evident he was raised in church at the very least. It was also evident he wanted fame and money so badly, and to be seen as successful after having been a behind the scenes producer. He definitely made a deal with the devil to get there. After his mom died, he changed a lot. She seemed to keep him somewhat grounded in his upbringing. The seed was planted long ago in Kanye, so it doesn’t surprise me that he’s claiming to be born again. He knows. But I’m also not going to be surprised if he truly isn’t (which is between him and God). I am, however, rooting for him. I’ve always loved who he is, you can tell he’s a very insecure scared man, overcompensating. He has finally seemed to come to a comfortable spot for himself, albeit all around him and the world he paid to get into, makes him uncomfortable.
God is so merciful, He could be using these otherwise demonic platforms for His good!I remember reading that they didn’t want him to do ‘Jesus Walks’ bc it wouldn’t be played so it wouldn’t sell. But Kanye is Kanye and he did it anyway. I think you’re right about his mother- losing her kind of sent him on a spiral, I just wonder which kind. I think it was guilt bc he paid for her plastic surgery, but then there are those ppl that constantly talk about someone close having to die before they’re allowed to ‘make it big.’ Idk..just seems weird. Whether he’s seeking God is a heart thing like you said, but it is definitely giving a platform I never expected!
Agreed. I really think that people shouldn't praise human beings aka celebrities too much. What I learn these past weeks from Hong Kong protests is that people are way too easily brainwashed more than they care to admit.Kanye at the time was being made a mockery of by paling around with Trump and calling him his 'dragon brother'. I'm sure that had something to do with it.
I posted this here in a different thread.. but just be careful when it comes to these ppl and trust.
He could sell a regular rap album all day, any day. He’s not MC Hammer trying to get $ bc he can’t in the rap game. Doing an album based on faith after the past he has is going to be hard. Really hard. Prior fans that want no part of this ‘God thing’ won’t buy it. Tons of Christians that don’t ‘trust’ his heart change, won’t buy the album. He’s not running to any ‘guarantee’...he threw a lit match at the secular safety net. The idea it’s all for money is laughable.This is just good marketing to Christians. That's all I see it as. I am dissapoint? No, they will do ANYTHING to sell.
When Kanye does release? It will go platinum. Just marketing.
As in:-In conclusion, the first rappers I saw were rebels. And you know who else was a rebel? Jesus.
Sounds surprised the devil is a thief.I’m watching life w/emojis this forum doesn’t offer.