Pope Francis - Man of Mystery

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Breaking with 2,000 years of Christian teaching, the man with the reins of power in Rome is pushing an increasingly unusual religious agenda that has even many Catholics puzzled. What is his real angle? And why is the Roman Catholic Church only now being led by such a wayward theologian? I would argue that it's all going according to God's plan and timing. We may not be able to definitively identify the antichrist before the Church is taken to glory, but can the same be said about the false prophet who according to Revelation 13:11–17 will cause the world to worship the beast?

Throughout history Christians of all stripes have consistently taught that Jesus Christ is God's only begotten Son and the only One who can save sinful humanity. This Jesus is coming back to judge the world in righteousness and to save those who believe in Him. Furthermore, Christianity has consistently taught that the Bible is uniquely true—God-breathed words that reveal truth in a way that no other text or religion can.

Pope Francis seems to think otherwise. Here are ten things the current pope has said or done that not only defy Roman Catholic teachings, but basic biblical and Christian truths held by virtually all denominations:


1. For the pope's January 2016 prayer intentions the Vatican released a video that expressed two overtly heretical beliefs: first, that you can have a relationship with God through other religions' mediators and seek God outside of the Christian faith, and second, that everyone is a child of God, not only believers in Christ.


There was so much bad theology and half-truths in this video that it left even many moderate Christians stunned.

2. Just last month the pope falsely assured a grieving boy that his unbelieving, atheist father will be saved, which is nothing less than an outright denial of the necessity of believing the gospel message. Not only that, but he simultaneously denied a plethora of scriptures that declare that no one but God is good. He based his presumption about the man's salvation on the belief that his father was "a good man."


3. Also last month, the Pope met with Katy Perrywho came to the Vatican to speak about transcendental meditation. Yes, that's the same Katy Perry who performed a satanic ritual-esque song at the Grammys replete with hellfire and horned demons.



Other speakers included Deepak Chopra, a New Age guru and one world religion proponent who expressed hopes in 2016 that Pope Francis would move beyond the Catholic Church to become "a holy man for the world" by embracing the validity of all faiths and the importance of mind-altering meditation.

4. In 2014 Pope Francis hosted Islamic prayers and a reading from the Koran at the Vatican for the first time ever. Just think of the significance of this: the man who supposedly leads a majority of the world's Christians allowed prayers to be offered to the false god allah in a place dedicated to Christ and the Church.


5. In 2016 the Pope decisively sidelined conservatives in the Catholic Church. The Pope selects new cardinals. The College of Cardinals elects the next pope. Pope Francis appointed 17 new cardinals, almost all of whom are stalwart liberals both theologically and politically. As a consequence, the Catholic Church will be moving away from orthodox Christianity and towards universalism and liberation theology for the foreseeable future.


6. Pope Francis scoffed at evangelism in an October 2013 interview with an Italian publication:

Proselytism is solemn nonsense, it makes no sense. We need to get to know each other, listen to each other and improve our knowledge of the world around us.

Perhaps the Pope should read the Acts of the Apostles—the Apostles were very dedicated proselytizers and street preachers.


7. The Pope told a crowd of some 33,000 people that the teachings of those who believe you can have a personal, direct relationship with Jesus Christ are "dangerous and harmful."


8. In April 2014 Pope Francis tweeted that "inequality is the root of social evil"—a thoroughly Marxist and anti-biblical sentiment, which teaches that evil is rooted in external, societal causes. Contrary to Francis' Marxist/Liberation theology paradigm, the Bible teaches just the opposite—that the source of evil is from within one's own heart (Mk. 7:21–23; Jas. 1:13–15) and comes from lack of faith in God (Rm. 14:23). And as a matter of fact, inequality itself is not necessarily a bad thing. Some have more, some have less. Even in Heaven there is a hierarchy.




9. In 2015 Pope Francis called religious fundamentalism "a sickness," even if that fundamentalism is non-violent (e.g. Christian fundamentalism). Fundamentalism is essentially believing in the literal truth of religious texts and teachings.

Fundamentalism is a sickness that is in all religions... We Catholics have some—and not some, many—who believe in the absolute truth and go ahead dirtying the other with calumny, with disinformation, and doing evil.

A fundamentalist group, even if it kills no one, even it strikes no one, is violent. The mental structure of fundamentalism is violence in the name of God.
- Pope Francis


10. On multiple occasions Pope Francis has equated Yahweh and allah, an obviously heretical and unbiblical belief. Believing that the God of the Bible and the god of Islam are one and the same is no different than believing the same about Yahweh and ba'al.

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If you still find yourself in the religion that is led by this man I would plead with you with all my heart and soul to learn what the Gospel really is and what repentance really means. You must be born again.

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He's gonna be promoting the Baha'i religion soon i bet.
If only for purposes of balancing the scales, somewhat, and given that the author of the op has plenty to say about Islam, perhaps it is worth mentioning, as he did not, that many "sedevacantists" and far-right, often schismatic Traditionalist Catholics are watching and recording how cozy Bergoglio is with that would-be universalistic form of rabbinic "Judaism for export" called Noahidism, and, in their view, it doesn't look too promising for believers in the Trinity who enjoy their heads being connected to their necks (think: St. Stephen's martyrdom). {Click here} for a case in point.
Just for clarity, I am not anti-Catholic (as far as Catholic people are concerned) its the ism part I have issue with. There are believing Catholics who will join believing Protestants (and believing Messianic Jews) one day when "isms" are done away with.
 





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He also apparently does not believe in hell.

https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michae...an-pope-francis-doesnt-believe-existence-hell

Believes in the Big Bang and theory of Evolution.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...god-isnt-a-magician-with-a-magic-9822514.html

As a person who was raised a Catholic, I still never followed any of the Popes beliefs. Seemed to me that Catholics forgot that the Popes are just men and that they should not be worshipped as "Vicars of Christ". Living in opulence and trying to impose their will on others is just a mockery of what Jesus taught.
 





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And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades will not prevail against it.

Papacy claims this verse proves their legacy from Jesus through Peter...Maybe just maybe Jesus had in mind something else...
 





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And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades will not prevail against it.

Papacy claims this verse proves their legacy from Jesus through Peter...Maybe just maybe Jesus had in mind something else...
As in...

What is the rock in Matthew 16:18?

Question: "What is the rock in Matthew 16:18?"

Answer:
The debate rages over whether “the rock” on which Christ will build His church is Peter, or Peter’s confession that Jesus is “the Christ, the Son of the Living God” (Matthew 16:16). In all honesty, there is no way for us to be 100% sure which view is correct. The grammatical construction allows for either view. The first view is that Jesus was declaring that Peter would be the “rock” on which He would build His church. Jesus appears to be using a play on words. “You are Peter (petros) and on this rock (petra) I will build my church.” Since Peter’s name means rock, and Jesus is going to build His church on a rock – it appears that Christ is linking the two together. God used Peter greatly in the foundation of the church. It was Peter who first proclaimed the Gospel on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2:14-47). Peter was also the first to take the Gospel to the Gentiles (Acts 10:1-48). In a sense, Peter was the rock “foundation” of the church.

The other popular interpretation of the rock is that Jesus was referring not to Peter, but to Peter’s confession of faith in verse 16: “You are the Christ, the son of the living God.” Jesus had never explicitly taught Peter and the other disciples the fullness of His identity, and He recognized that God had sovereignly opened Peter’s eyes and revealed to him who Jesus really was. His confession of Christ as Messiah poured forth from him, a heartfelt declaration of Peter’s personal faith in Jesus. It is this personal faith in Christ which is the hallmark of the true Christian. Those who have placed their faith in Christ, as Peter did, are the church. Peter expresses this in 1 Peter 2:4 when he addressed the believers who had been dispersed around the ancient world: “Coming to Him as to a living stone, rejected indeed by men, but chosen by God and precious, you also, as living stones, are being built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.”

At this point, Jesus declares that God had revealed this truth to Peter. The word for “Peter,” Petros, means a small stone (John 1:42). Jesus used a play on words here with petra (“on this rock”) which means a foundation boulder, as in Matthew 7:24, 25 when He described the rock upon which the wise man builds his house. Peter himself uses the same imagery in his first epistle: the church is built of numerous small petros “living stones” (1 Peter 2:5) who, like Peter, confess that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God, and those confessions of faith are the bedrock of the church.

In addition, the New Testament makes it abundantly clear that Christ is both the foundation (Acts 4:11, 12; 1 Corinthians 3:11) and the head (Ephesians 5:23) of the church. It is a mistake to think that here He is giving either of those roles to Peter. There is a sense in which the apostles played a foundational role in the building of the church (Ephesians 2:20), but the role of primacy is reserved for Christ alone, not assigned to Peter. So, Jesus’ words here are best interpreted as a simple play on words in that a boulder-like truth came from the mouth of one who was called a small stone. And Christ Himself is called the “chief cornerstone” (1 Peter 2:6, 7). The chief cornerstone of any building was that upon which the building was anchored. If Christ declared Himself to be the cornerstone, how could Peter be the rock upon which the church was built? It is more likely that the believers, of which Peter is one, are the stones which make up the church, anchored upon the Cornerstone, “and he who believes on Him will by no means be put to shame” (1 Peter 2:6).

The Roman Catholic Church uses the argument that Peter is the rock to which Jesus referred as evidence that it is the one true church. As we have seen, Peter's being the rock is not the only valid interpretation of this verse. Even if Peter is the rock in Matthew 16:18, this is meaningless in giving the Roman Catholic Church any authority. Scripture nowhere records Peter being in Rome. Scripture nowhere describes Peter as being supreme over the other apostles. The New Testament does not describe Peter as being the “all authoritative leader” of the early Christian church. Peter was not the first pope, and Peter did not start the Roman Catholic Church. The origin of the Catholic Church is not in the teachings of Peter or any other apostle. If Peter truly was the founder of the Roman Catholic Church, it would be in full agreement with what Peter taught (Acts chapter 2, 1 Peter, 2 Peter).

https://www.gotquestions.org/upon-this-rock.html
 





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As in...

What is the rock in Matthew 16:18?

Question: "What is the rock in Matthew 16:18?"

Answer: The debate rages over whether “the rock” on which Christ will build His church is Peter, or Peter’s confession that Jesus is “the Christ, the Son of the Living God” (Matthew 16:16). In all honesty, there is no way for us to be 100% sure which view is correct. The grammatical construction allows for either view. The first view is that Jesus was declaring that Peter would be the “rock” on which He would build His church. Jesus appears to be using a play on words. “You are Peter (petros) and on this rock (petra) I will build my church.” Since Peter’s name means rock, and Jesus is going to build His church on a rock – it appears that Christ is linking the two together. God used Peter greatly in the foundation of the church. It was Peter who first proclaimed the Gospel on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2:14-47). Peter was also the first to take the Gospel to the Gentiles (Acts 10:1-48). In a sense, Peter was the rock “foundation” of the church.

The other popular interpretation of the rock is that Jesus was referring not to Peter, but to Peter’s confession of faith in verse 16: “You are the Christ, the son of the living God.” Jesus had never explicitly taught Peter and the other disciples the fullness of His identity, and He recognized that God had sovereignly opened Peter’s eyes and revealed to him who Jesus really was. His confession of Christ as Messiah poured forth from him, a heartfelt declaration of Peter’s personal faith in Jesus. It is this personal faith in Christ which is the hallmark of the true Christian. Those who have placed their faith in Christ, as Peter did, are the church. Peter expresses this in 1 Peter 2:4 when he addressed the believers who had been dispersed around the ancient world: “Coming to Him as to a living stone, rejected indeed by men, but chosen by God and precious, you also, as living stones, are being built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.”

At this point, Jesus declares that God had revealed this truth to Peter. The word for “Peter,” Petros, means a small stone (John 1:42). Jesus used a play on words here with petra (“on this rock”) which means a foundation boulder, as in Matthew 7:24, 25 when He described the rock upon which the wise man builds his house. Peter himself uses the same imagery in his first epistle: the church is built of numerous small petros “living stones” (1 Peter 2:5) who, like Peter, confess that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God, and those confessions of faith are the bedrock of the church.

In addition, the New Testament makes it abundantly clear that Christ is both the foundation (Acts 4:11, 12; 1 Corinthians 3:11) and the head (Ephesians 5:23) of the church. It is a mistake to think that here He is giving either of those roles to Peter. There is a sense in which the apostles played a foundational role in the building of the church (Ephesians 2:20), but the role of primacy is reserved for Christ alone, not assigned to Peter. So, Jesus’ words here are best interpreted as a simple play on words in that a boulder-like truth came from the mouth of one who was called a small stone. And Christ Himself is called the “chief cornerstone” (1 Peter 2:6, 7). The chief cornerstone of any building was that upon which the building was anchored. If Christ declared Himself to be the cornerstone, how could Peter be the rock upon which the church was built? It is more likely that the believers, of which Peter is one, are the stones which make up the church, anchored upon the Cornerstone, “and he who believes on Him will by no means be put to shame” (1 Peter 2:6).

The Roman Catholic Church uses the argument that Peter is the rock to which Jesus referred as evidence that it is the one true church. As we have seen, Peter's being the rock is not the only valid interpretation of this verse. Even if Peter is the rock in Matthew 16:18, this is meaningless in giving the Roman Catholic Church any authority. Scripture nowhere records Peter being in Rome. Scripture nowhere describes Peter as being supreme over the other apostles. The New Testament does not describe Peter as being the “all authoritative leader” of the early Christian church. Peter was not the first pope, and Peter did not start the Roman Catholic Church. The origin of the Catholic Church is not in the teachings of Peter or any other apostle. If Peter truly was the founder of the Roman Catholic Church, it would be in full agreement with what Peter taught (Acts chapter 2, 1 Peter, 2 Peter).

https://www.gotquestions.org/upon-this-rock.html
I just wanted to respond to your discussion about Peter and his leadership in the early church. I feel that Peter was, in a way, like the apostle Paul, in that both had great personal regrets and both had their own regrets. Peter had denied Christ before the crucifixion and I am sure that it troubled him greatly and affected him each and every day. Paul also had persecuted the early believers in Christ and stood by while Stephen was killed. I am sure that he had a hard time dealing with the fact that he was an enemy of the believers and then had to try and convince people that he had accepted Christ and was devoting his life to the ministry. It is interesting to think about how God gave these two men the job of spreading the gospel and teaching the people about Jesus. Peter never stated that he could forgive sins and he never stated that he was taking the place of Jesus during his ministry. Therefore, how can anyone say that they are taking the place of Peter and therefore they are capable of forgiving sins. I think that many have been deceived because they have been taught a false doctrine and it is very prevalent in this society. The apostle John warned of those who would teach the false doctrine of devils and the antichrist.
 





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Genesis 10

8And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth. 9He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD.

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Curt Mast, the original distiller of Jägermeister and son of the founder Wilhelm, was an enthusiastic hunter. The name literally translated means "Master Hunter", "Hunt Master" or "master of the hunt". It is a title for a high-ranking official in charge of matters related to hunting and gamekeeping.
 





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Just another clown in a pope suit. He does seem a little more evil than his predecessors, if that is possible. You really have to beware when he sits in the big chair and speaks ex cathedra through his god, satan.
 





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"The Italian Freemasons congratulated him immediately the day after his election. In fact, the Grand Master of the Grand Orient of Italy expressed his joy regarding the election of Pope Francis. On March 14, 2013, the day after the pope’s inauguration, with seemingly uncanny prophetic foresight, Italian Grandmaster of Freemasonry Gustavo Raffi said that “nothing will be as it was before”:

Perhaps the Freemasons want the pope to include them in his Ecumenical One World Religion now!
 





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"The Italian Freemasons congratulated him immediately the day after his election. In fact, the Grand Master of the Grand Orient of Italy expressed his joy regarding the election of Pope Francis. On March 14, 2013, the day after the pope’s inauguration, with seemingly uncanny prophetic foresight, Italian Grandmaster of Freemasonry Gustavo Raffi said that “nothing will be as it was before”:

Perhaps the Freemasons want the pope to include them in his Ecumenical One World Religion now!
That is what I think also. I believe this is the first pope to be endorsed by freemasons in such a way. Mystery Babylon is in control of the Beast I am afraid, for the moment anyway.
 





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"America has a distorted vision of the world and Americans must be ruled by a World Government, as soon as possible, for their own good".
~ Pope Francis

 





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