PM Netanyahu: Today I'm going to make an unprecedented offer to Iran

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#41
This is a little off-topic, but it gives you a good impression of what really is happening in Iran.
http://thesaker.is/iran-diary-bracing-for-all-out-economic-war/
 





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#42
Thinks haven't changed much for Israel in the last 70 years (or perhaps for the last 2700!)*

“To Grand Mufti Amin al-Husseini: From the outset, the National Socialist [Nazi] movement of Greater Germany has been a standard-bearer in the battle against world Jewry. For this reason, it is closely following the battle of freedom-seeking Arabs, particularly in Palestine, against the Jewish invaders. The shared recognition of the enemy and the joint fight against it are creating the strong base [uniting] Germany and freedom-seeking Arabs around the world. In this spirit, I am pleased to wish you, on the anniversary of the wretched Balfour Declaration, warm wishes on your continued fight until the great victory.”

It was signed by Himmler as SS commander of the entire Third Reich.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...ss-in-fight-against-jewish-invaders-1.5455375
 





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#43
Well then you understand why the people of Iran are so mad at their leaders. Instead of doing something about the internal problems in Iran, like drought, the clerics are putting all their energy and money into hating Israel. It's the same thing in Gaza.

This was never about giving Iran water technology. If you watch the video, the message is one of support for the Iranian people. Netayahu literally says it. "Life to the Iranian people!" It's a blessing and an encouragement from the Jewish people to their friends in Iran.
It's a knife veiled in humanitarianism by a known liar. A liar. While he's at it he's free tho give back America all the tax dollars we've sent. Iran and I think he should mind his business, not too many want the Blessings of Bibi.

From another perspective it's like he wants to cause civil unrest and then begins the video by drinking a glass of room temp water lol. The man is not trustworthy.
 





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#44
"the clerics are putting all their energy and money into hating Israel. It's the same thing in Gaza."
The clerics in Iran are not actually in charge of where the money in the Iranian budget is spent are they?
The clerics run Iran.

Ali Khamenei is the head of state and highest ranking political and religious authority in the Islamic Republic of Iran. The armed forces, judicial system, state television, and other key governmental organizations are under the control of the Supreme Leader of Iran. The current longtime Supreme Leader of Iran, Ali Khamenei, has been issuing decrees and making the final decisions on economy, environment, foreign policy, education, national planning, and everything else in Iran.​

There aint much money in Gaza for Hamas to horde either way.
Not after Hamas builds tunnels and buys rockets and spruces up their villas in Qatar, no.

But aid to Gaza is in the billions annually. There's plenty of money to fix their infrastructure.

Hamas Spending $140 Million a Year to Build Tunnels

Egyptian TV Accuses Hamas Leaders of Living in Luxury
 





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#45
Right, except for the fact that even with whatever corruption you could claim is present in Iran, the Iranians still have access to e-commerce to do something independently to advance the situation. What Netanyahu needs to do is mind his own business and stop creating the concrete jungle called Gaza where people don't have the same access to things that the Iranians do. Telling the Iranians that he is lending some helping hand is like telling Americans that he is going to lend a helping hand when we have access to all the things we need without him. We have corrupt politicians too. It is Hasbara, not a helping hand.
As I said.
This was never about giving Iran water technology. If you watch the video, the message is one of support for the Iranian people. Netayahu literally says it. "Life to the Iranian people!" It's a blessing and an encouragement from the Jewish people to their friends in Iran.
 





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So from what I gather based on what you said, if Netanyahu really wanted to help Iran, he would encourage his ally i.e. the United States, to not impose sanctions that would make it difficult for Iran to engage in commerce that would help them develop technologies to improve their agricultural sector? Hmm, that is something that he could be doing to say "life to Iran," instead of his idea to create a website with information he that has been approved to share with Iran.

It is like saying, "I approve of sanctions that will make you dependent on the information I give you." Then, they are hoping the average person will start a revolution for Israel because they see them an ally too, at some point. It is all kinds of hypocrisy. I literally visual his act of mercy like a jailer giving the prisoner a filet mignon trough a door that could only fit a small animal through it. lol. Then they say in a cryptic way that they are the only one who really loves the prisoner and that they are only safe if they stay within the prison where they are given good food.

Although, this is basically what I picture the architects of Israel envision for the whole world.
The way I see it, they don't really care about Iran, so I don't think that kind of help is ever going to happen. But yeah, removing sanctions did not solve all of the problems, but it made Iranians hopeful and lots of things going on. Time is needed to make real progress, and I'm sure Iranians know how to make reforms happen slowly. What we don't need is sanctions and threatening voices talking about a war on both sides.
 





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The clerics run Iran.

Ali Khamenei is the head of state and highest ranking political and religious authority in the Islamic Republic of Iran. The armed forces, judicial system, state television, and other key governmental organizations are under the control of the Supreme Leader of Iran. The current longtime Supreme Leader of Iran, Ali Khamenei, has been issuing decrees and making the final decisions on economy, environment, foreign policy, education, national planning, and everything else in Iran.​



Not after Hamas builds tunnels and buys rockets and spruces up their villas in Qatar, no.

But aid to Gaza is in the billions annually. There's plenty of money to fix their infrastructure.

Hamas Spending $140 Million a Year to Build Tunnels

Egyptian TV Accuses Hamas Leaders of Living in Luxury
I dont see much concrete policy that Ayatollah Khamenei effects outside of morality laws. He seems to issue general edicts but I am unaware of him having actualable power over Irans government mechanisms.

So Hamas is using their own money to build tunnels which are necessary for the Palestinian populations survival. Isnt that what they are supposed to be doing? True, the tunnels could be used for good or bad purposes, but its still productive nonetheless.
 





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#48
The way I see it, they don't really care about Iran, so I don't think that kind of help is ever going to happen. But yeah, removing sanctions did not solve all of the problems, but it made Iranians hopeful and lots of things going on. Time is needed to make real progress, and I'm sure Iranians know how to make reforms happen slowly. What we don't need is sanctions and threatening voices talking about a war on both sides.
You are next to a lot of water. I was reading a little bit about the plans to draw water from the Caspian Sea that has pros and cons apparently. In reality, there are a lot of new technologies emerging for agriculture, and I don't see how there is any need for Israel to feign concern with some website. The way I see it, Iranian's seem capable of engaging in the global market that is busy in developing these technologies. That is the weirdest part of all of this to me.
 





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Saying that to an American is just such a joke to me. We give these people billions of dollars for them to have what they do every year. I think he sounds like a spoiled brat. If Netanyahu wants good press, he should stop taking our money that he doesn't need and encourage other countries to include Iran in the global market that is distributing agricultural technologies and information already. What good is all that useful information Israel has going to be if Iran has no way to purchase the equipment they need? It is a joke. It is propaganda.
 





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Saying that to an American is just such a joke to me. We give these people billions of dollars for them to have what they do every year. I think he sounds like a spoiled brat. If Netanyahu wants good press, he should stop taking our money that he doesn't need and encourage other countries to include Iran in the global market that is distributing agricultural technologies and information already. What good is all that useful information Israel has going to be if Iran has no way to purchase the equipment they need? It is a joke. It is propaganda.
Excellent points. The surest way to de-escalate the tension between Iran and Israel would be to allow Iran to re-enter the global economy and market place in a fair and speedy manner. Its not like they can catch up with Israels nuclear program so I dont see them as suddenly going suicidal. It stands to reason that they would be thrilled to earn their place in the world through industrious efforts as opposed to the pariah-state they currently live under.
 





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The clerics run Iran.

Ali Khamenei is the head of state and highest ranking political and religious authority in the Islamic Republic of Iran. The armed forces, judicial system, state television, and other key governmental organizations are under the control of the Supreme Leader of Iran. The current longtime Supreme Leader of Iran, Ali Khamenei, has been issuing decrees and making the final decisions on economy, environment, foreign policy, education, national planning, and everything else in Iran.​



Not after Hamas builds tunnels and buys rockets and spruces up their villas in Qatar, no.

But aid to Gaza is in the billions annually. There's plenty of money to fix their infrastructure.

Hamas Spending $140 Million a Year to Build Tunnels

Egyptian TV Accuses Hamas Leaders of Living in Luxury
So it's not really about helping Iranians, it's about cutting financial or other kinds of supports that Iran is giving to Hamas and other resistance groups. Iranians are being seduced to start a revolution, to throw out the Iranian regime and make things easier for Israel. As about the revolution, I don't really mind a regime change, but not in this chaotic middle-east with ISIS surrounding us, and not through a civil war and not through an invasion. Since I don't see that likely with all the things going on, I prefer slow reforms which are now impossible thanks to Trump withdrawing JCPOA. The liberal group in Iran are now being accused of being naive enough to trust the US.
 





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Iranians are being seduced to start a revolution, to throw out the Iranian regime and make things easier for Israel. As about the revolution, I don't really mind a regime change, but not in this chaotic middle-east with ISIS surrounding us, and not through a civil war and not through an invasion. Since I don't see that likely with all the things going on, I prefer slow reforms which are now impossible thanks to Trump withdrawing JCPOA. The liberal group in Iran are now being accused of being naive enough to trust the US.
I could change a few of identifiers in this statement and the exact same thing would apply to the US. They want a revolution because then they can look like the hero and not the one who deserves to be blamed like they do.
 





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Walk is through that one, doctor.
Thyroid issues, metal toxicity, poor environment, and disease off the top of my head. Improper pancreatic function through insulin resistance can cause excess adipose tissue and obesity. One doesn't necessarily have to be a glutton to be obese.

Don't even get me started on genetics, lack of exercise, disinfo concerning nutrition(hello food pyramid). There's you're walkthrough and also improper fasting and nutrient timing. Fat people look sick and usually are sick beyond their apparent obesity.
 





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Thyroid issues, metal toxicity, poor environment, and disease off the top of my head. Improper pancreatic function through insulin resistance can cause excess adipose tissue and obesity. One doesn't necessarily have to be a glutton to be obese.

Don't even get me started on genetics, lack of exercise, disinfo concerning nutrition(hello food pyramid). There's you're walkthrough and also improper fasting and nutrient timing. Fat people look sick and usually are sick beyond their apparent obesity.
Yep and stress, depression, kidney infections, hormonal imbalances and alot more. Some people are obese not because of fat, but fluid retention also. Or their body not being able to digest anything properly (bad metabolism) so even a few bites = weight gain.

Saying that people in Gaza are not starving or having problems just because they have obesity rates, is something only an uneducated person would say.