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Daciple

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Okay but my thing is......maybe sometimes Muslims go overboard........

but what are Christians doing? Are Christians forming the resistance? Are Christians leading the revolution?

In your case, I would say yes..........but in many cases I would say nooo.....

and that is my thing.

When it all pops off, which Christians will offer resistance? I think two. You and maybe one other.

Whereas Muslims are down for la revolución .....I cannot help but think more highly of Muslims based on this.
What exactly do you think constitutes a true revolution? Who do you really think the greatest rebel to the World System has been in all of Human History? I tell you it surely wasnt Muhammad, the guy that creates a Theocracy and then forces entire civilizations to bow down to his system of Government, and forces his Religion upon them at the sword. Please don't argue that this isn't how Islam was spread.

How do you feel about American Imperialism? I would think you are not a fan, neither am I, therefore to me it makes no logical sense to unite myself with another (well I shouldnt say another because America is NOT a Theocracy) Theocratic Governmental Ideology whose mission it is to force their Government and Religion upon others by violence if necessary. What Revolution do you believe Muslims are down for? As a Christian I would never support an Islamic Revolution because I know what that would look like, the death murder enslavement and destruction of many of the values I hold to be dear, and the force of me to either consent to their Theocracy or die essentially.

With that being said, you seem like a very intelligent man, so let me ask you, do you believe there has been any Revolution in Modern History that has actually brought the common person more freedoms? Do you believe there has been any Revolution that has actually stripped those in control from the power they wield?

I can tell you I don't believe there has ever been any Revolution save one, that has ever brought any freedoms to the common man, and that wasn't manufactured by those in control for the ultimate purpose to centralize and bring them more power. I believe the Revolution that you speak of, in whatever form it may come, will do nothing but centralize more power to those in control and take more freedoms from you and I. The idea of Revolution, which is rebellion essentially, takes it's roots in Satan, who rebelled against God. The idea of Revolution in the Modern Era is forged out of and brought forth by those who are in control, with the very intent to stir up one side against another, then portray it as tho whomever wins, has now received power, when in reality the winning side was already chosen, the common man carried out the bloodshed necessary to further TPTB agenda, and now the common man is more likely to submit to the agenda because they feel they created then enforced this new paradigm. The thing is they never did, Hegelian Dialectic, those in control wanted war to push an agenda, rose up a side and supported it while making it seem as tho this side was “against the establishment”, then after those who resist are murdered off by the Revolutionists, TPTB agenda is left as the only agenda with no resistance, and now they have the full support and thus the full control of the populace that ignorantly thinks it took down the establishment.

Jesus Christ is the Ultimate Rebel to the World System, and what exactly did He say concerning the True Revolution, His Revolution?

John 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

When I was younger I too looked around at how the World was, how corrupt the Governments were and I was a massive supporter of Revolution. You have spoken correctly on how age and experience gives you a different perspective, how you see things differently than those younger than you and this is whether one wants to admit it or not, the Truth, age brings Wisdom. I was your age when Bush Jr was in power, I saw the corruption, I hated what America was doing, and I was preparing and dedicating myself to violent uprise and Revolution!!! Back then instead of Facebook, Myspace was the thing, and if you go look at my Myspace page it is drenched in Viva La Revolucion! Plastered in Che Guevara paraphernalia messages to rise up and resist, messages to burn down the Government ect ect ect….

Then my eyes were truly opened to the actual Agenda of the Powers That Be, I eventually was lead to this site and began an intense study into the Illuminati, and the manipulation of the populace by them. I also became much closer to Christ and truly living out the ideologies set forth in the Word of God. Along with these perspectives and education, I aged, and therefore experienced more of the World and grew in Wisdom and Understanding. I can tell you from this growth it is very clear and obvious to me a few things.

First any and all violent uprisings have been and in the future will be orchestrated by those in power with the intent and explicit purpose to solidify their power, and take freedoms away from me and you. The seeds that were planted in me when I was younger was planted by TPTB in hopes that I would be standing and supporting them right now, that I would be at the ready to violently protest the false narrative they are driving home right now. Everyone who is out here violently protesting against America or whatever other ideology they find themselves violently protesting, have been and will continue to be manipulated by TPTB for that exact purpose. All of them and if you end up violently protesting America or whatever ideology you protest in a violent manner, will be contributing to the agenda to further the power bloc of TPTB.

Once I was awoke to this FACT, I began to understand where the True Revolution lies, where the Real War lies, and it has absolutely nothing to do with uprising against Governments, or overthrowing those in control. Do you want to know what the True Revolution is? Do you want to know where the True Rebellion to this World System is? This is literally the ONLY way to Truly Fight those who are in power:

Eph 6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:
18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;


This my friend is the only Revolution that matters, this my friends is the only War that matters, this my friends is the only Fight that matters. The only Kingdom that matters and needs to be fought for is the Kingdom of Christ and that Kingdom is not of this World and it is not fought with Guns and Knives, it's not fought against Blood and Flesh, it is a Spiritual Battle.

The World is going to go where the World goes, and it will NEVER go the way of Christs Kingdom. Christs Kingdom will always be at odds with Worldly Agendas, so one must choose which Kingdom they want to serve and which Kingdom they want to fight for. I can tell you Islam is not of Christs Kingdom, they are fighting for a World Government brought in by way of Blood and Revolution to be Established on the Earth by them forcefully.

If one ascribes to Pre Millennial Doctrine or actually it's seen in almost all Christian Eschatology in one form or the other, then the World will continue to wax cold, raging in Wars and rumors of Wars, as Satan moves his pawns into position to dominate the World by way of Blood and Revolution. There is no call at all for Christians to rise up and violently overthrow the World System, that will be done when Christ Himself comes back and destroys the World Governments. Instead the call of the Christian is to live as Christ and battle the real battle which is for the Kingdom of Christ by winning souls to Heaven.

Again brother, the very idea of violently uprising and taking power from others is the essences of Lucifer, and regardless of ones willingness to accept it, uniting oneself with any Government, Ideology, or Movement that desires or pushes or carries out violent uprising, is to join Satan in his conquest of this World. Like I said all Revolutions only empower those in control of this World, and ultimately it empower and moves the Agenda of Satan. The only fight that resists the movement of those in control is the Good Fight of preaching the Gospel and seeing people get Born Again…

I hope that one day you are able to see this, but if you don't I can understand as stated I too used to be all for the Revolution, now I reject the Worldly Revolution, they are all inspired by Satan with the purpose to bring more control to TPTB and ultimately to Satan Himself...
 

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That is what I meant lol...... when I mentioned the word revolution, I meant it in the same sense as you- I meant it in a spiritual way.

Your post is not actually addressing my position and I am not that person.....

Like, I can't really relate because I'm over here and the last post is way over there.

My post wasn't about revolution and when i used the word revolution I didn't mean in the sense you were talking about.

Like I am totally baffled because your post addresses me as holding a position totally foreign to me.

It is just very confusing cuz you took the word "revolution" and made a gigantic post based on a misinterpretation of how I used that word and based on assuming me to hold a position I don't actually hold.

All I was saying is that Muslims are being more resistant than Christians. They are doing a better job at maintaining their distinct values. People can say what they want but I am only pointing out an obvious fact. Muslims are being more resistant and are fighting much harder to preserve their values.

When the AntiChrist comes, who will offer more resistance?

Your post was based on a strawman misrepresentation of what I believe. I have remade my assertion in slightly different words. I will clarify so you cannot misinterpret me. I don't mind if you disagree with me, but I want you to attack my actual position, not attack a position that you attribute to me that is miles away from what I actually believe.

When I say resistance, I am not talking about guns or utopias...... I am simply talking about the will to preserve ones' values..... that is all this thread is about- from the beginning.

Look, I am not interested in revolution with guns or utopia. My thoughts on politics are a whole different discussion and yes I think imperialism is bad but I am not Lenin lol.

Eh....... there is theory behind all this but people don't understand the theory behind it. Honestly, your post sort of offends me because I feel stereotyped. Like..... who I am does not fit into preconceived categories so you warp my words to make me fit into some sort of preconceived notion.

I am my own category. I am my own type of militant. You'll never get me if you try to put me in a preconceived category. I don't say that to be egotistical but simply because it's true.
 

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I think I must be cursed to be placed into categories that are utterly foreign to me..... Daciple seems to think I'm some sort of Marxist materialist..... floss seems to think I'm a Muslim.

I don't fit into a preconceived category so people insist ln trying to place me in some preconceived category rather than simply dealing with me as an individual and understanding that I follow my own way of thinking.
 

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You may choose a religion according to "personal needs"? What is stopping you from other religions if that is your only focus?
At least some religions' believers don't try to hide the fact they are living for themselves, their true god - SELF.

Islam means submission. That sure ain't to yourself and your own desires.
Look at this post.

You start with the term "personal needs".

I simply used the term "needs".

You change it to "personal needs" with the quotes, then in your last sentence it becomes "desires".

Needs and desires are not the same thing. Again, someone wants to put words in my mouth. Another strawman.
 

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Are you inclined to speak your every thought out loud? Overload of egocentrism? As for me inability to say something makes me think about it more not less...

People are weak, they don't want to hear certain things which provokes thought or makes them feel uncomfortable...Don't waste your breath on them, they are not worth it anyway...Don't throw pearls to pigs... They play along, they enjoying themselves when they say im offended...

Our values are attacked on world level not on personal, seeing it as it is are enough to avoid negative influence...No one can do anything to you...You are outraged for some reason, but really it's not that big of a problem as you trying to paint it...
I'm not that important. Yes.... you know, I do like to talk. Yes, I like to discuss things.

If the fact that I like to talk makes me an egocentrist, then yes I'm an egocentrist.

I would like to have a voice. I would be like to be able to say what I think. That is egocentrism? Then yes I am an egocentrist.

But I do not think that is egocentrism and I do not think I am egocentrist.

I think the truly egocentric people hate discussion and are not interested in talking because they think they have all the answers.

I do not have all the answers. I am baffled and confused all the time.

Perhaps I am not as smart as you. Perhaps you don't need to talk about things out loud to understand them better. Maybe you don't need to talk so you can process your thoughts.

I am not quite that smart. I need to talk about things so I can process my thoughts, I need to talk about things out loud so I can understand them better.

So I talk in order to achieve understanding. Plato and Socrates used dialogue as well so if I am dumb or egocentric because I like to talk about things- about real things and not, for example, the Kardashians- then at least I am in good company.
 

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Well, I think Political correctness is like a strap that stos you from saying what you want out of fear of the acusation of being jumped upon as either a racist or a womens hater or this or that.. Sigh. It's one big jal of mind and it's ridiculess! Who are these super easily offended idiots anyway? I remember a time when you could say what really was on your mind.
 

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That is what I meant lol...... when I mentioned the word revolution, I meant it in the same sense as you- I meant it in a spiritual way.
I apologize that I misunderstood your position, its easy to misunderstand someone when they speak of Revolution, most mean it in the sense of violent uprising, and I have seen some of your posts where you seemingly support Communism, or Socialism, or have a desire to see the destruction of the Western Capitalist System. Usually when people denounce Capitalism and speak on Revolution its meant as a violent uprising, so I apologize that I misconstrued your position.

When the AntiChrist comes, who will offer more resistance?
Born Again Christians and no one else.

Rev 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

There is no Muslim whose name is written in the Book of Life of the Lamb that was slain from the foundation of the World, they reject the Lamb they say He was never slain, all of them will worship the Antichrist. The only resistance to the Antichrist is Born Again Christians, those whose name is written in the Book of Life of the Lamb. If you or anyone else doesnt have their name written in that Book then you and everyone else will not resist the Antichrist, and you will worship him...

Honestly, your post sort of offends me because I feel stereotyped.
Dont feel offended, its an honest mistake man, you have spoken of wanting to destroy Capitalism in the past, you have spoken highly of desiring a Socialistic or Communistic Government and spoke of Revolution. If thats not what you meant so be it, I can only ascertain what you mean by taking the whole of what I personally have read from you and putting them together. Sorry if I am mistaken in the positions you hold, but TBH your positions drastically change brother. I dont know where you stand from day to day on issues.

I hope that what I wrote could give knowledge to others then if it was of no benefit to you...

I don't fit into a preconceived category so people insist ln trying to place me in some preconceived category rather than simply dealing with me as an individual and understanding that I follow my own way of thinking.
I respect that, but from my perspective of your writings you have drastically changes position from the time I first met you on here to this day, therefore I wouldnt get too offended when people make judgments concerning what you have written in the past and place them upon you. Maybe you dont hold that position anymore, maybe you were misunderstood, maybe you didnt make your position clear enough to begin with. Like I said man, I take the writings I have definitely read from you that express a desire to destroy Capitalism, that express a desire to support Socialism or Communism and then you speak on Revolution, well it stands that the logical ideology is that the Revolution you may have desired is one to violently upend Capitalism and establish Socialism or Communism or whatever ideology you want to support today...

Anyway bro sorry if I offend you, didnt mean to, but this reminds me of why PC Culture is so ridiculous, everyone wants to be offended by everything. Never in my life was trying to have a discussion so insanely worrisome that someone is going to be offended... Ugh
 

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The whole world changed after 9/11. It's all a part of a big plan...
And the free speach doesn't exist anymore, all you have to say is "I disagree" and watch the "magic" happen. I know because I see this everyday on FB.
 

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Facebook isn't real life... people always fight online.
That's practically my catchphrase and nothing bad ever happens to me when I say it.
Yes, I don't think is real life but many people think it is. Say I disagree is almost a war statement, at least is what I see...
 

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Okay. Your post interests me.

Do I not suggest ideas on how to deal with it?

Given, I don't give specific ideas on how to preserve ones' own values within PC culture. What I suggest is strategy, not tactics. I grew up playing in chess tournaments and anyone who knows about chess knows the difference between strategy and tactics. I give strategy at the beginning of the thread. I think you complain about lack of tactics. I give strategy and anyone who can't figure out the tactics.... I don't really feel bad for them unless they are actually disabled. But the zombified masses are zombified by choice.

Hm.... you are a woman who doesn't mind feminism. Look.... feminism gives women short-term benefits....... but screws women over in the long run. The liberated feminist woman....... I've had experiences and I'm not proud.... in all actuality

we have to remember that pride is not good. The excessive pride is bad. We should have confidence and love ourselves but excessive pride is bad.

Ahem......so anyways, I deal with strategy at the beginning of this thread and it is internal, relating to how one preserves their values.

As far as right wing, left wing, they are two wings of the same bird.

OOOH IF ONLY EVERYONE FOLLOWED THE LEFT

OOH IF ONLY EVERYONE FOLLOWED RIGHT

both have had power, I've seen both and I'm against both

but you know what?

we're really not that different. I'm a minority. And I can and will think from my perspective, I will not adopt a Eurocentric, self-negating perspective!

However......... Trump is exactly what minorities need, in my opinion.

Trump is way better than Hillary.

I say this because.......... there was such a lack of resistance against Obama.......I was in the hood yesterday

I wont say which cuz of privacy but I was in the hood and there's Michelle in grafitti....

look.... I like Obama.... I actually do.... it was a big thing for minorities......

but this thread, I was just showing the other side of the coin.......

I am with you on not being a fan of the right......

if the right was Christian, small-government- fa sho! I would be completely with them......

but now it's...... Christian, small-government, WHITE NATIONALIST......

look.....

is the Republican party about Christianity or white nationalism?

and the fact that these two are in tve sentence together........ really makes Christianity seem not so appealing to me.....

why does Christianity often seem politically aligned with white nationalism???????

That is a big part of why I like Islam. I love Islam. Islamic values is not a codeword for white nationalism. And I can trust that it won't be :)

if I have to choose between the left or right.....

I choose neither.

I demand to be a third position.
Ok - I have been holding back on this one but I believe there is an attempt to falsely align Christianity with numerous repugnant, "America First", wall building, gun toting, white power loving nonsense.

I believe this may even be a diabolical attempt to subvert the message of the Gospel by seducing the American Christian Right and "Moral Majority" into a triumphalist position that paints them in the ugliest light possible to the rest of the world.

It the "Elites" know anything, it is how to manipulate the Hegelian dialectic to guide people towards their philosophy...
 

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Most people aren't going around just saying I disagree. And some that are, say it in a way that is aggressive or condescending. Intent is real important when we talk about messaging. A word, phrase or symbol can have a lot of stuff behind it. Some of that stuff is impossible not to react to. The people at the top understand this better than the public at large.

The public seems to be perfectly happy with the feeding frenzy mentality. So anyone of us can grab a rod and go fishing. Maybe that's what we should do. Stop acting so powerless. Sing your frog song, for the whole world to hear. Lure the phonies and fakes and reel those suckas in. Take everything, and give nothing! That's what they are doing to us.
 

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I apologize that I misunderstood your position, its easy to misunderstand someone when they speak of Revolution, most mean it in the sense of violent uprising, and I have seen some of your posts where you seemingly support Communism, or Socialism, or have a desire to see the destruction of the Western Capitalist System. Usually when people denounce Capitalism and speak on Revolution its meant as a violent uprising, so I apologize that I misconstrued your position.



Born Again Christians and no one else.

Rev 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

There is no Muslim whose name is written in the Book of Life of the Lamb that was slain from the foundation of the World, they reject the Lamb they say He was never slain, all of them will worship the Antichrist. The only resistance to the Antichrist is Born Again Christians, those whose name is written in the Book of Life of the Lamb. If you or anyone else doesnt have their name written in that Book then you and everyone else will not resist the Antichrist, and you will worship him...



Dont feel offended, its an honest mistake man, you have spoken of wanting to destroy Capitalism in the past, you have spoken highly of desiring a Socialistic or Communistic Government and spoke of Revolution. If thats not what you meant so be it, I can only ascertain what you mean by taking the whole of what I personally have read from you and putting them together. Sorry if I am mistaken in the positions you hold, but TBH your positions drastically change brother. I dont know where you stand from day to day on issues.

I hope that what I wrote could give knowledge to others then if it was of no benefit to you...



I respect that, but from my perspective of your writings you have drastically changes position from the time I first met you on here to this day, therefore I wouldnt get too offended when people make judgments concerning what you have written in the past and place them upon you. Maybe you dont hold that position anymore, maybe you were misunderstood, maybe you didnt make your position clear enough to begin with. Like I said man, I take the writings I have definitely read from you that express a desire to destroy Capitalism, that express a desire to support Socialism or Communism and then you speak on Revolution, well it stands that the logical ideology is that the Revolution you may have desired is one to violently upend Capitalism and establish Socialism or Communism or whatever ideology you want to support today...

Anyway bro sorry if I offend you, didnt mean to, but this reminds me of why PC Culture is so ridiculous, everyone wants to be offended by everything. Never in my life was trying to have a discussion so insanely worrisome that someone is going to be offended... Ugh
You're Daciple. You're somewhat of a legend, you've been around and you're probably one of the best Christian posters on here.

Who cares if I'm offended?

You have a right to offend me. Seriously. I don't care if you offend me. The answer is not to try not to be offensive, the answer is to not care if I'm offended. Seriously. It doesn't matter if I'm offended.

Don't care about offending me. Say what you want. I might not agree with you on everything but I agree with you on a lot of things and I'm not out to quiet what you have to say.

I was just sort of disappointed because I felt that the post was based on a misreading but that was because I think you're a great writer and I had been looking forward to your post. And I didn't mean stereotype in a racial sense, I just meant I felt like you put me in a preconceived category as far as how I think.

Ahem..... anyways, this is the boring disclaimer type part.

I want to actually respond now. And you have to excuse me because I am argumentative but..... because I am passionate for the truth. Not because I'm against your freedom in any way. It has nothing to do with either of us, as I see it.... just some paces in the direction of trying to arrive at the truth regarding a given matter.

Okay.... my positions change from day to day? That I do not believe.

And the problem with internet is lack of tone. If you could actually hear my tone, my tone would be sort of a quiet, introspective, curious tone. It wouldn't be loud or hostile. More a questioning, calm tone. But here there is no tone and this can make words appear hostile. My words are often in disagreement with people but I'm not really hostile towards anyone on here. I don't really hate anyone.

My thinking changes? No, I don't believe that.

I say this because there is a method to my madness. It only appears random to others because they do not perceive the underlying structure.

I do not think in the same terms as others. I don't say this to try to be impressive but because it's true. I am thinking in terms of how Paulo Freire, Enrique Dussel, Ricardo Flores Magón, Plato, Frantz Fanon, José Vasconcelos, my grandparents and others thought (of course I have my own thoughts but these are influences)

If a person has not read the people I mentioned, they won't understand my thinking. And then plus I've read the Bible and the Quran.

There is a structure and unity to my thinking. If someone actually read (not the wikipedia articles but the books) Vasconcelos, Fanon, Magón, Freire, etc.

I would say Fanon is a way bigger influence than Marx on me. Just to illustrate- this thread is influenced by Fanon, Zizek, Freire...... if you study Freire, Fanon or Zizek..... their ideas are actually reflected in the OP of this thread.

I've never really read Marx. I want to at some point but honestly, he's never really interested me that much.

I can't explain the underlying unity and structure of my thinking here but there is an underlying structure and unity. There is a methodology. I don't expect others to understand the method behind my madness but I say all this simply to point out that it is there. I think I seem random but I'm not. There is a method to my madness. Even some of my seemingly-strange, random-seeming posts- there is actually theory behind them.

Even my helicopter status- it has a double meaning. I don't know if anyone will figure out what the alternate meaning is or what I actually meant... but I simply say this to point out that there is method. It's not just random.

Look, the random person reading this might not care who José Vasconcelos was or about the theories of Frantz Fanon. They don't care. I was shocked when someone actually identified my avatar- my avatar is Vicente Toledano Lombardo, the Marxist theorist.

People might not care about the theories of Frantz Fanon, Paulo Freire, Toledano, etc......

but ideas are not new. All our ideas come from somewhere and pretty much whatever idea we think of- someone else thought of it and possibly even in greater detail.

And so....... a lot of my posts..... I can simply apply the theories of, say, Fanon and Freire...... and make my posts in accordance with those theories.....

yet never mention those people and make it appear that my thinking is totally spontaneous.... and thus I can subliminally move people in a particular direction without actually explaining what direction I am wishing to drive people towards.

The theories of Vasconcelos, Fanon, and Freire are embedded in what I write, even if I never mention them. I am way more influenced- deeply influenced- by Vasconcelos than by Marx.... I don't really care about Marx.

The problem with trying to fit the unexplained person or thing into a preconceived category is that the world is always broader than our thoughts. There is always more outside of our thinking.

My thoughts on capitalism are more influenced by Magón than by Marx.

But... even Magón and all the other people I mentioned..... I don't agree with everything some philosopher said. But I still think philosophy is good.

As far as what you mentioned....... I don't think I've ever said "hey, start a violent revolution"

I don't think I've ever said anything like that. I don't think I've ever taken that position. Wasn't that Marx's position? Violent, external revolution?

Look..... I don't really have an opinion on revolution in that sense. But that sort of thing is a means. I'm more interested in ends. Once you've figured out which ends you are for, I think then is the time to address the means. But I like to address ends.

Violent revolution is a technique, a means... it's not an ends. It's for the sake of something. Was George Washington justified? I have no idea.

I have no idea. But I don't really address that. I am interested in the ends- this is the final vision, this is the direction- that is what interests me. That is the domain of philosophy- I love philosophy. Means? That is more of a question for scientists and I'm not really into science.

So revolution and violence..... I don't really talk about that. It is an issue. Ellul said revolutionary violence is not justified, Fanon sald it is, Marx said it is...... was George Washington justified?

I have no idea. I am against violence, I don't like violence and I am not a violent person. I've never really taken a side as far that issue.

Trust me, I'm not Che Guevara. I like him, I actually have a book of his writings and I admire his theories- he was way more interesting and intellectual than he is made out to be.... but I am not Che, I know I'm not him, I don't desire to be him.

I would rather be Marx than Che. I think the intellectual architect, the one who develops the theory is way more dangerous than the one who uses violence.

And people can use violence in support of.... pretty much anything. I'm not a vegan but if I write a book explaining Why I'm Vegan and if some radical vegans kidnap meat-eaters...... that's not my fault. If I take the time to write a 1000-page Theory and Practice of Veganism book that is a sort of vegan masterpiece..... I don't have to not write that book because some idiot might use it to justify stupidity. People can do that with anything. And I don't encourage violence.

As far as Marxism..... I think Marxism is like Fight Club....

If you've seen Fight Club, I think that movie encapsulates so much interesting stuff.

Look.... the first half of Fight Club was a masterpiece. I mean the beginning where it is about disillusion with materialism, alienation, etc.

That was basically Marxist. If you took some Marxist literature and used it to express the same things as the first half of Fight Club, people would be horrified and reject it because it's Marxism. But you show them the first half of Fight Club they'll be like "right on!"- even though it's saying the same thing.

But it's the second half that ruins the movie for me. I agree with Ebert saying it was fascist. I think it was.

Okay.... "materialism is bad" *problems of society*...... right on!!!...... we are missing something in our lives..... right on!!!!..... now let's turn violent........... wait...... whattttt???????????? o_Oo_Oo_O

That was basically me watching Fight Club lol.
 

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I think I may have created the longest post in the history of the internet. I am indeed a text-book Virgo lololololololololololololololol

but I like my Giant Post because that post actually explains my other posts
 

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@Etagloc -

I have read quite a bit myself... one thing I keep coming back to is the importance of presupposition and assumption. With each writer I would engage with, the question "where are they coming from" would present itself. In this crowd of writers, and diversity of view, you have to ask yourself the question - "what is my foundation".

If you get this foundation right the magnificent building of your other thoughts will have a solid basis.

P.s. I once read "The Pilgrims Regress" by C.S Lewis - in his chaperone "wisdom" one very well read man describes in allegorical form a house full of ideas, looking out over a canyon. Perhaps one day you will add his book to your extensive reading list and remember my recommendation.
 
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