Paganism, Easter, Halloween and Christmas.

A Freeman

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There is ZERO evidence that Jesus was actually born on December 25th, so those that are celebrating that date as the alleged birthdate of Jesus are celebrating and promoting a LIE.

Here is what Christ-Jesus said about lies...

King of kings' Bible - John 8:31-36 (John 8:40-45 KJV)
8:31 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the Truth, which I have heard of God: this did NOT Abraham.
8:32 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, [even] God.
8:33 Jesus said unto them, IF God WERE your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but He sent me.
8:34 Why do ye not understand my speech? [even] because ye cannot hear my Word.
8:35 Ye are of [YOUR] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the Truth, because there is no Truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father (inventor) of it.
8:36 And because I tell [you] the Truth, ye believe me not.

Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and ALL LIARS, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with Fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
 

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Then why do roughly 2 billion so-called Christians follow the made-up legislation of their own countries and the doctrines and traditions of PAGAN Roman Catholicism?...
I don't care if 2 billion 'christians' want to follow Catholicism and are hellbound with it..:)
 

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I don't care if 2 billion 'christians' want to follow Catholicism and are hellbound with it..:)
If you know they are going into The Fire for their continued pagan practices (e.g. celebrating Christ-mass and Ishtar/Easter, the "trinity", "Holy Communion" and Sun-day worship in temples made with human hands), why then are you defending and promoting some of their pagan doctrines and traditions?
 

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If you know they are going into The Fire for their continued pagan practices (e.g. celebrating Christ-mass and Ishtar/Easter, the "trinity", "Holy Communion" and Sun-day worship in temples made with human hands), why then are you defending and promoting some of their pagan doctrines and traditions?

Paganism has no hold on us because Christianity has overwhelmed, trashed and stamped it out just as surely as the Enterprise's phaser banks have zapped out this heathen 'god' Vaal..:)

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You do understand that as fascinating as Star Trek can be, it is still science FICTION don't you?
 

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You do understand that as fascinating as Star Trek can be, it is still science FICTION don't you?
Not if sci-fi is based on reality..;)
ALIEN VISITOR - Jesus said "I am not of this world" (John 8:23)
MOTHERSHIP -"Praise to the Lord, to him who rides the ancient skies above,
whose power is in the skies." (Psalm 68:33-34)
RADIATION SHIELDING- God said "When my glory passes by, I will put you in a cleft in the rock and cover you with my hand until I have passed by" (Exodus 33:22)
GENESIS PROJECT -"God made the worlds.." (Hebrews 11:3 KJV)
ORBITAL TRAJECTORY - "God sits on the circle of the earth" (Isaiah 40:22)
WARP DRIVE - "God rides upon a swift cloud" (Isaiah 19:1)
CLOAKING DEVICE - "God goes by me but I see him not" (Job 9:10)
TIME DILATION - "With God a thousand years are as one day" (2 Peter 3:8)
SCOUT SHIP- "I looked, and I saw a windstorm coming out of the north, the center of the fire looked like glowing metal" (Ezekiel 1:4)
STARGATE- Jesus said - "Enter through the narrow gate, for wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it."(Matt 7:13)


Uhura discovers that a sun-worshipping civilisation doesn't worship the sun as previously thought-
 

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Not if sci-fi is based on reality..;)
ALIEN VISITOR - Jesus said "I am not of this world" (John 8:23)
MOTHERSHIP -"Praise to the Lord, to him who rides the ancient skies above,
whose power is in the skies." (Psalm 68:33-34)
RADIATION SHIELDING- God said "When my glory passes by, I will put you in a cleft in the rock and cover you with my hand until I have passed by" (Exodus 33:22)
GENESIS PROJECT -"God made the worlds.." (Hebrews 11:3 KJV)
ORBITAL TRAJECTORY - "God sits on the circle of the earth" (Isaiah 40:22)
WARP DRIVE - "God rides upon a swift cloud" (Isaiah 19:1)
CLOAKING DEVICE - "God goes by me but I see him not" (Job 9:10)
TIME DILATION - "With God a thousand years are as one day" (2 Peter 3:8)
SCOUT SHIP- "I looked, and I saw a windstorm coming out of the north, the center of the fire looked like glowing metal" (Ezekiel 1:4)
STARGATE- Jesus said - "Enter through the narrow gate, for wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it."(Matt 7:13)


Uhura discovers that a sun-worshipping civilisation doesn't worship the sun as previously thought-
Agreed about the spiritual nature of the items you've mentioned. There can be and are messages from Father (God) in some television series and films. The ones you've listed from the original Star Trek series are nice ones. Another episode that depicts the battle between the spirit and the flesh in each of us: "The Enemy Within".

Why not read the little book (Rev. 10:6-10) entitled "The Way home or face The Fire" by JAH (Ps. 68:4, which you cited)? There are spaceships and aliens throughout the Bible, as you've correctly pointed out.
 

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..There are spaceships and aliens throughout the Bible, as you've correctly pointed out.
Yes, hopefully the younger generation who were brought up on Harry Potter will one day say as they get older- "HP was fiction, but the Bible is the real deal"..:)
 

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THE ORIGIN OF CHRISTMAS!!!

Christmas, as a festival, existed long before Jesus was born into this world. December 25 was actually celebrated many years before Christ was born. The pagans worshipped the sun, and they noticed that in December, the days were becoming shorter and shorter and the sun was getting farther away from them. Fearing that the sun would leave them altogether, they prayed and offered sacrifices. Then on December 25, for the first time, they could tell that the sun was coming back closer; the days were beginning to lengthen out again. So these people said, “The sun is reborn to us.” They called December 25 the birthday of the sun or sun god. It became a great religious festival with them.

Only the pagans celebrated the day until the counterfeit papal system was taking form. At that time, the day was adopted by the papacy and called the birth of the SON, instead of the birthday of the SUN.


Deuteronomy 12:31, "Thou shalt not do so unto the Lord thy God: for every abomination to the Lord, which he hateth, have they done unto their gods;…"
 
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We are back to that time of the year, Easter.

Christians should not be observing or celebrating anything related to Easter like Ash Wednesday, Lent, Palm Sunday, Good Friday, Easter and Easter Monday. These events never existed and were never observed or celebrated by the apostles and early Christians. There is no scriptural mandate to observe or celebrate them

Easter is not a Christian holiday.
The word Easter is not even scriptural; it does not exist in true translations of the Bible. A brief history of Easter tells us that the name “Easter” comes from the Anglo-Saxon, Eostre, the name of the goddess of spring. Her roots trace all the way back to the goddess Ashtoreth. There is no New Testament commandment for honouring Easter as there was no such thing.

How Did Easter Get Started?
The Council of Nicaea in 325 decreed that Easter should be observed on the first Sunday following the first full moon after the spring equinox (March 21). Easter, therefore, can fall on any Sunday between March 22 and April 25. The Council of Nicaea was introduced under the Pagan turned "Christian" Emperor Constantine in order to unite paganism and Christianity.

So, Why Sunday?
For centuries, Passover foreshadowed the death of Jesus. The word translated as “Easter” in Acts 12, had nothing to do with Sunday. The word “Easter” was substituted for “pascha,” meaning Passover. Much like one’s birthday, wedding anniversary, or Fourth of July, you celebrate the date, not the day. Furthermore, the Passover could fall on any day of the week. So why is Easter always celebrated on Sunday? Because it is a pagan celebration.

Easter means “movement towards the rising sun.” It pertains to the religious rites of people who worship the sun and the signs of the heavens. Sun worship is expressly forbidden in the scriptures (Ezekiel 8:16-17).

Easter is celebrated on the first Sunday after the first Vernal Equinox full moon; which is consecrated by pagans as Ishtar’s Sunday.
 
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Christmas celebrates Jesus's birth, and Easter commemorates his death, yet I bet satan has got a big smile on his face because he's suckered some people into not doing those things because he's convinced them they're "pagan"..:)
 

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Pagan and heathen beliefs have long gone because they've been overwritten, stamped out and trashed by Christianity, and no Christian takes them seriously nowadays..:)

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Christians should remember the life, death, burial and resurrection of Jesus all year round (including Easter time) because that is how we are all saved.

Also biblically as I've mentioned in this thread previously, God gave us a rite, a ritual, a celebration that is meant to remind us of Jesus Christ’s death, burial, and resurrection! Its baptism.

Romans 06:3-11, "Do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? Therefore, we were buried with Him through baptism into death so that -- as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father -- we also should walk in newness of life. Because, if we have been united together in the likeness of His death, certainly we also shall be in the likeness of His resurrection, knowing this, that our old life was crucified with Him, so that the body of sin might be done away, so that we should no longer be slaves of sin. Because, one who has died has been freed from sin. Now, if we died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him, knowing that Christ -- having been raised from the dead -- dies no more. Death no longer has dominion over Him. For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God. Likewise you also, reckon yourselves to be dead indeed to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord."

I believe that once a Christian finds out how Easter started and what it really means and why to this day as in paganism Easter is set after the first full moon following the spring equinox, then they should stop celebrating it.

We should be careful as Christians not to conform to the worlds customs and traditions. When we are made aware of the idolatrous truth in these customs, we are accountable to God. Ephesians 5:11 says, "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them."

However I believe that at Easter time as any other time of year, if we have the opportunity, we should share and talk about the risen Lord and the love of Christ.
 

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..I believe that once a Christian finds out how Easter started and what it really means and why to this day as in paganism Easter is set after the first full moon following the spring equinox, then they should stop celebrating it...
I'm sure satan is chuckling if some christians won't commemorate Jesus's birth at Christmas and his death at easter, because they're afraid of paganism which is therefore controlling them by fear even though it's a dead mickey mouse "religion"..:)
All true Christians are not afraid of anything-
"For you did not receive a spirit that makes you a slave again to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship" (Romans 8:15)
"For God did not give us a spirit of timidity, but a spirit of power, of love and of selfdiscipline" (2 Tim 1:7)

"..that you may stand firm in all the will of God, mature and fully assured" (Col 4:12)
 

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It is unquestionable the resurrection of Christ is very important to Christians around the world. We read in the Bible it was of enormous importance to the early church too. It figures prominently in the evangelistic messages from the apostles as recorded in the book of Acts.

They never made an issue about date of the resurrection other than to note in a factual manner that the resurrection occurred on the first day of the week. There is no suggestion that the resurrection made the first day of the week holy.

In the Bible there is only one holy day of the week, the Sabbath, formed as a part of the creation process by God Himself, and never suspended.

As I've mentioned numerous times in this thread, the early Christians NEVER observed or celebrated Easter. If our model is that of the Bible and the early Christian church, then we too should not observe or celebrate Easter.
 

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While I don't celebrate Easter, I am grateful for Jesus' death and Resurrection.

The hymn "Jesus paid it all" expresses why I am grateful to Christ for the gift of salvation.


The chorus says:

"Jesus paid it all,
All to Him I owe;
Sin had left a crimson stain,
He washed it white as snow."
 
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