Our Life Beyond Mkultra By Elisa E

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Has anyone read this book? I just finished it and would like to hear other people's thoughts on it. It's a different kind of survivor's tale than most in that the writer is still fragmented and writes as several people not one. She is in the recovery process but still has many personalities that she calls Alters. Some of what she says I find really hard to believe.
 





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Just only because I'm interested in a thread doesn't mean I have an aswer to it ;)
I know it's hard sometimes for a thread-opener, but that's how it is sometimes.
And I'm just writing this down to give you at least one answer. I've never heard of this book.
 





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I've heard of it and read part of it, but I think it is fake. The testimony is very outlandish and lacks some of the features that are consistent in the testimonies of Brice Taylor, Kathleen Sullivan and the author of "A Nation Betrayed."

Basically, when you are recovering from abuse of this kind, there is a process that is developed in uncovering the abuse that demonstrates the pain it creates.

The author perspective basically lacks this demonstration and seems to effortlessly write about horrible and outlandish things.

There is always the possibility that these events diminish an ability to feel emotions, but there is also no consistency to the testimony. There are no consistent responses that are demonstrated in the other testimonies. This sort of thing is hard to fake. You would have to be much more calculated to determine that this would increase the credibility of something that actually false.

This conclusion further demonstrated the validity of few testimonies that exist on this subject. If there were many, the testimonies of the few would obviously be false. If there are few, the testimony of the struggle created by voicing this reality is more than likely a true report.

As a result of reading this book, I also simultaneously ended my search for more testimonies on the subject of trauma-based mind programming. Finding this one was like trying to find a needle in a haystack already and it wasn't very good, so I concluded that there were no remaining testimonies on the subject that were worth investigating as a result.
 





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Yes, I read both of her books a couple of months back and watched her interview on YouTube. I agree that her testimony seems even wackier than average...she talks about entities from other dimensions and even herself teleporting into other dimensions and seemingly disappearing from the physical plane. She touches base with the alien abduction crowd as she previously felt that she was a victim of aa until she worked out it was Mk Ultra. Oh, and there is reptilian stuff there too. Her religious stance could be described as New Age with her believing in the power of 'Benevolence' rather than any actual God.

The books make a confusing read because they are written from the perspective of her alters, and as you find out one memory may have been experienced by 2 or more alters and not necessarily recovered in order. Whilst I struggle to swallow all of the supernatural stuff, I do note that other sources talk about demonic entities that are put inside a person's programming, whether you believe that to be literal or not. Also, the inner worlds of someone with programming are said to be as real as the external world, so an altar with Oz programming, for example, will genuinely believe they are in the world of Oz. What this lady or her altars experienced to be real could just be part of the programming.

I forgot to mention this lady also believes herself to be a clone and some sort of alien hybrid. A field day for any conspiracy theorist!
 





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Thanks for the replies. I'll have to look for her interview on Youtube.
I honestly don't know what to make of this book. I have Brice Taylor's "Thanks for the Memories" and alot of the type of trauma this woman goes through is similar to things that happened to Brice. Maybe it's because she's only beginning her recovery that makes this such a strange read. Of course claiming she's an alien hybrid/clone doesn't help. I'm debating if I want to order book 2 or not.
 





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I know for most this is hard to believe, but I ask that you please do your own research. There is a lot of information not only from this MK ultra survivor, but from others, as well as information on this mind control program from our own government. Please have an open mind. These programs did happen. It is fact. It is not a conspiracy. Some of these victims were traumatized from birth. Can you imagine what that would do to you? It is much than mind control through LSD and electro shock therapy. It is much deeper and more disturbing than that. Please do your own research. Information on this program can even be found on the CIA electronic reading room. https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/search/site/Mk ultra
They have even destroy files on this program. Which they admit to and you can find on the CIA website. Can you imagine what thwy destroyed? What they admit to is only the tip of the iceberg. Knowledge is power people.
 





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I know for most this is hard to believe, but I ask that you please do your own research. There is a lot of information not only from this MK ultra survivor, but from others, as well as information on this mind control program from our own government. Please have an open mind. These programs did happen. It is fact. It is not a conspiracy. Some of these victims were traumatized from birth. Can you imagine what that would do to you? It is much than mind control through LSD and electro shock therapy. It is much deeper and more disturbing than that. Please do your own research. Information on this program can even be found on the CIA electronic reading room. https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/search/site/Mk ultra
They have even destroy files on this program. Which they admit to and you can find on the CIA website. Can you imagine what thwy destroyed? What they admit to is only the tip of the iceberg. Knowledge is power people.
This is so interesting - Thank you!
 





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Never heard of this woman or the book before... as for @rainerann have you seen the blog mk ultra grrl? She's the woman from the famous Picture of a girl with the signs "stain all urine" or something, i've posted the blog link here a few months ago.
 





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About the Demon Possession:

Technichal Term: Mystery Cult [NOT!! Mystery school] (Secret worship of Spirits via Possession in the Ancient World)

Technichal Term: TutelarySpirits (Guardian Spirits or Familiars)

Technichal Term: Hieros Gamos (Sexual Spirit Marriage or Ritual)

In the Intro to Brice Taylor's book, the 'Nazi Mind Control' section, the writer talks about demons used in the Gamma Programming. So no Brice herself didnt talk about demons but the intro author did. Brice did talk about God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit though, and Jesus cast Demons out of MK Victims. Luke 8:27

Chapters 1,2 + 10 of Fritz Springmeier's 'Illuminati Mind Control Vol 1+2' books explain about how the demons are summoned in the rituals and how the programming is just hypnotic support for the demon possession. Fritz's books are listed in the Bibliography of Brice's book.

You will have to study ancient demonology to really understand how all this plays out. Unfortunately most Christians and Preachers are stupid when it comes to such topics, I know because I used to be dumb till I left churchianity.

Acts 19 talks about Paul the Illuminati Priests at the Greek Colony of Ephesus. Artemis was
the ruling spirit over this area. She was the Mother Goddess and was evoked prebirth and was given access to the child as an ancestor spirit. Paul talks about the Illuminati rituals at Ephesus in the Book of Ephesians 6:11-12. [See 'Moonshild Ritual' in Fritz' Mind Control Vol 1 book]

Vikings evoked Freya and the Norns

Ancient Greeks evoked the Three Fates etc...

Native Tribes evoke Ancestors

Babylonians evoked Pazuzu

All this goes back to Genesis 6, 2 Kings 17 and Acts 8:5 (King James Version)

The Process of casting demons out of SRA n MK Victims is call 'Deliverance Ministry'

This is an example of deliverance of a MK victim Marty Quinn. His chief demon Tartak is mentioned in 2 Kings 17:31

 





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Never heard of this woman or the book before... as for @rainerann have you seen the blog mk ultra grrl? She's the woman from the famous Picture of a girl with the signs "stain all urine" or something, i've posted the blog link here a few months ago.
Any way you can link that here, I’m interested!
Unfortunately I couldn’t find it on my own by searching “mk ultra girl” and scrolling through all ur previous posts became a major pain in the ass/ineffective. :)