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Indian film-maker sparks fury with suggestion that 'r*pe without violence' should be legalised and women should carry condoms and 'co-operate' with sex attackers
  • Daniel Shravan, in now deleted post online, said that 'r*pe is not a serious thing'
  • He added that: 'If you are about to get raped, hand over a condom to the rapist'
The film-maker, in a series of now-deleted posts, said that 'r*pe is not a serious thing, but murder is inexcusable' adding that 'the government should legalise r*pe without violence for the safety of women.'

This comes AFTER body of vet Priyanka Reddy, 27, found after she was raped in India

@DailyMail

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Indian film-maker sparks fury with suggestion that 'r*pe without violence' should be legalised and women should carry condoms and 'co-operate' with sex attackers
  • Daniel Shravan, in now deleted post online, said that 'r*pe is not a serious thing'
  • He added that: 'If you are about to get raped, hand over a condom to the rapist'
The film-maker, in a series of now-deleted posts, said that 'r*pe is not a serious thing, but murder is inexcusable' adding that 'the government should legalise r*pe without violence for the safety of women.'

This comes AFTER body of vet Priyanka Reddy, 27, found after she was raped in India

@DailyMail

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No wonder India has the problems it has regarding women!
 






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I'm not even sure that attempting the re-educating of the population and trying to change a whole nations outlook on r*pe is going to happen either.
I was going to post something related to this. A friend of mine gave me a insight about India's situation. While the caste system isn't officially applied anymore this is still deep integrated in india's culture, plus some parts of india follow a dharmic religion so if people are born poor they stay poor and without help. I really would like the opinion from someone that actually is from India to confirm this.
 






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Of course, this is not the proper way to deal with this crime, or any other heinous and murderous crime.
I'm not even sure that attempting the re-educating of the population and trying to change a whole nations outlook on r*pe is going to happen either.
I was alarmed at the three present comments on the article too.
The article says the dudes tried to escape at the scene.... if this account is accurate, wouldn't that be the dudes own faults?
 






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The article says the dudes tried to escape at the scene.... if this account is accurate, wouldn't that be the dudes own faults?

Not disagreeing with your point, but the fact they weren't even handcuffed when taken back to the scene of the crime, raises the possibility that it was planned by the policeman that shot them?
 






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The porn industry is just more controlled social conditioning. The fact that it is not regulated on the internet and widely available to anyone regardless of age, proves it serves a purpose. That purpose is to normalize debauchery, sodomy, incest, infidelity, p***philia and bestiality. It's also there to make men weak physically, mentally and spiritually. The ultimate goal is to destroy the family, destroy our God given unique male/female identity and blur the lines of sexual age appropriateness.
I agree. I am an alcoholic and porn addict. its completely ruined my life and mt state of mind.,
 






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murder is inexcusable' adding that 'the government should legalise r*pe without violence for the safety of women.'

This comes AFTER body of vet Priyanka Reddy, 27, found after she was raped in India

@DailyMail

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I think he should go to prison without charges for the 'safety of women' :rolleyes:
 






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Can we distinguish between normal porn and abnormal porn? If you make no distinctions and treat all porn as equally spiritually disfiguring, generations of people will tune you out. If you want a campaign against the bad porn to work, you're probably going to have to acknowledge that some porn isn't that bad. Asking people to reject all porn will fail, will only give more life to the worst porn and people's worst impulses.

Does all porn necessarily put the viewer in the POV of a cuckold watching other people have sex? Well, maybe, but not POV porn. Are all women in porn exploited? Many, sure, but not all -- believe it or not, some women really are exhibitionists who love sex. Does the most popular porn normalize aggression? What are we defining as aggression? Hair pulling, a little spanking, some naughty words? If you can't distinguish between that stuff, which is fairly normal, and sadomasochistic torture porn, then you have no chance at convincing the public that some porn is dangerous.
 






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The porn industry is just more controlled social conditioning. The fact that it is not regulated on the internet and widely available to anyone regardless of age, proves it serves a purpose. That purpose is to normalize debauchery, sodomy, incest, infidelity, p***philia and bestiality. It's also there to make men weak physically, mentally and spiritually. The ultimate goal is to destroy the family, destroy our God given unique male/female identity and blur the lines of sexual age appropriateness.
Agreed
 






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Can we distinguish between normal porn and abnormal porn? If you make no distinctions and treat all porn as equally spiritually disfiguring, generations of people will tune you out. If you want a campaign against the bad porn to work, you're probably going to have to acknowledge that some porn isn't that bad. Asking people to reject all porn will fail, will only give more life to the worst porn and people's worst impulses.

Does all porn necessarily put the viewer in the POV of a cuckold watching other people have sex? Well, maybe, but not POV porn. Are all women in porn exploited? Many, sure, but not all -- believe it or not, some women really are exhibitionists who love sex. Does the most popular porn normalize aggression? What are we defining as aggression? Hair pulling, a little spanking, some naughty words? If you can't distinguish between that stuff, which is fairly normal, and sadomasochistic torture porn, then you have no chance at convincing the public that some porn is dangerous.
There aint no such thing as "normal" porn. It aint normal off the jump, and once you have seen some perversion, odds are the person will search out more extreme stimulus to feed the increasing desire for more extreme (and harmful) materials.
 






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There aint no such thing as "normal" porn. It aint normal off the jump, and once you have seen some perversion, odds are the person will search out more extreme stimulus to feed the increasing desire for more extreme (and harmful) materials.
Eh. We evolved in small groups in the wilderness with little shelter and almost certainly fuc...had sex in front of each other quite a lot. In a vacuum, it's normal to be interested in seeing other people have sex, just out of curiosity alone -- as long as you're not a peeping tom. Casual voyeurism? Normal. Exhibitionism is less normal, but there are enough of them in a world of 7 billion people, just a minuscule fraction would suffice to create all the porn ever desired.

Anyway, I should have said relatively normal. Compared with some of the paraphilias out there, there is most definitely such a thing. A couple just simply screwing is way, way, way more normal than gangbangs, scat, bondage, r*pe, incest, etc.
 






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Can we distinguish between normal porn and abnormal porn? If you make no distinctions and treat all porn as equally spiritually disfiguring, generations of people will tune you out. If you want a campaign against the bad porn to work, you're probably going to have to acknowledge that some porn isn't that bad. Asking people to reject all porn will fail, will only give more life to the worst porn and people's worst impulses.
Filming people having sex and putting it on the internet for the world to see is already pretty abnormal imo.

Does all porn necessarily put the viewer in the POV of a cuckold watching other people have sex? Well, maybe, but not POV porn. Are all women in porn exploited? Many, sure, but not all -- believe it or not, some women really are exhibitionists who love sex. Does the most popular porn normalize aggression? What are we defining as aggression? Hair pulling, a little spanking, some naughty words? If you can't distinguish between that stuff, which is fairly normal, and sadomasochistic torture porn, then you have no chance at convincing the public that some porn is dangerous.
Our biggest hang up with porn is how widely available it has become for people of any age. A decade ago it wasn't the case.
That's why it's not just harmless entertainement, there are tons of studies about the damages the "normal" porn you're talking about does to an individual.
If it can mess up an adult this bad, imagine what it does to kids who grow up watching it?

Eh. We evolved in small groups in the wilderness with little shelter and almost certainly fuc...had sex in front of each other quite a lot. In a vacuum, it's normal to be interested in seeing other people have sex, just out of curiosity alone -- as long as you're not a peeping tom. Casual voyeurism? Normal. Exhibitionism is less normal, but there are enough of them in a world of 7 billion people, just a minuscule fraction would suffice to create all the porn ever desired.
We've evolved enough as a species to know it's indecent and uncivilized to do certain things in front of others.

Anyway, I should have said relatively normal. Compared with some of the paraphilias out there, there is most definitely such a thing. A couple just simply screwing is way, way, way more normal than gangbangs, scat, bondage, r*pe, incest, etc.
Just sounds like you're trying to rationalize your porn consumption to feel better abt yourself.
 






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Can we distinguish between normal porn and abnormal porn? If you make no distinctions and treat all porn as equally spiritually disfiguring, generations of people will tune you out. If you want a campaign against the bad porn to work, you're probably going to have to acknowledge that some porn isn't that bad. Asking people to reject all porn will fail, will only give more life to the worst porn and people's worst impulses.

Does all porn necessarily put the viewer in the POV of a cuckold watching other people have sex? Well, maybe, but not POV porn. Are all women in porn exploited? Many, sure, but not all -- believe it or not, some women really are exhibitionists who love sex. Does the most popular porn normalize aggression? What are we defining as aggression? Hair pulling, a little spanking, some naughty words? If you can't distinguish between that stuff, which is fairly normal, and sadomasochistic torture porn, then you have no chance at convincing the public that some porn is dangerous.
 






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"Our biggest hang up with porn is how widely available it has become for people of any age. A decade ago it wasn't the case.
That's why it's not just harmless entertainement, there are tons of studies about the damages the "normal" porn you're talking about does to an individual.
If it can mess up an adult this bad, imagine what it does to kids who grow up watching it?"

Absolutely agree with this. We went from kids never seeing porn, to kids rarely seeing glimpses of fragments of boobs in their dads' Playboy magazines that their moms ripped up and threw out, to kids staying up late on weekends to watch softcore porn on Cinemax, to kids waiting to see 5-10 seconds of unscrambled relatively normal hardcore porn on Spice, to kids having all the most abnormal hardcore porn in the world instantly available at a click. It's horrifying.

All porn is unacceptable for kids to see, obviously. But you can see that there is a progression from bad to worse to evil forms of porn, right? Would you not like it if all the world's most degenerate internet porn addicts stopped watching the most abnormal porn and reverted to the only-still-pictures-of-boobs stage? Would that not be a good direction?

Am I rationalizing my own use? No, but if you want, I will. When I watch porn, I choose amateur Australian lesbians, mostly, because I feel like watching another man's penis is pretty gay, and I don't like looking at the grotesquely artificial women of most porn, and I'm confident none of the Aussie women are exploited junkies. It is normal? Nah. Is it way, way, way more normal than, say, watching somebody tied up get defecated on or whatever? Yes. I've been exposed to porn for over 30 years. I've never become bored with the relatively normal stuff. It's possible to have a world where porn exists but people don't watch the abnormal shit. You know what makes that world less likely? Reinforcing the idea that if you start watching vanilla porn you'll inevitably be forced to seek weirder stuff to stay thrilled. I would stop reinforcing that idea. It's like teaching people that once they start smoking weed they'll inevitably want to try coke and heroin. No. Stop ironically doing the devil's work for him.
 






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Eh. We evolved in small groups in the wilderness with little shelter and almost certainly fuc...had sex in front of each other quite a lot. In a vacuum, it's normal to be interested in seeing other people have sex, just out of curiosity alone -- as long as you're not a peeping tom. Casual voyeurism? Normal. Exhibitionism is less normal, but there are enough of them in a world of 7 billion people, just a minuscule fraction would suffice to create all the porn ever desired.

Anyway, I should have said relatively normal. Compared with some of the paraphilias out there, there is most definitely such a thing. A couple just simply screwing is way, way, way more normal than gangbangs, scat, bondage, r*pe, incest, etc.
I dont believe we evolved as you present here. Our human nature is still animal in some respects, and even animals dont generally just hump in the open. People are in a vulnerable state when doing so, and self-preservation instincts lead to a search for privacy when copulating. I also dont think its "normal" to desire watching others have sex. True, there are some tendencies that may be hardwired into us for whatever reason.... but Im concerned w/my own sexuality and sexual satisfaction, not others. Wish everyone a happy, healthy sex life, but other than that it really aint none of my biz.

All those freakshow fetishes you listed are the new norm for porn, not bow-chicka-wow-wow-groovy-harry-hippie 70s porn. That world of porn is dead and gone, and I feel its important to note that those (by comparison of modern materials) seemingly harmless in hindsight productions are what paved the way for where we are now. Its a degenerate form of prostitution/pimping and social engineering. Point blank.
 






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I dont believe we evolved as you present here. Our human nature is still animal in some respects, and even animals dont generally just hump in the open. people are in a vulnerable state when doing so, and self-preservation instincts lead to a search for privacy when copulating. I also dont think its "normal" to desire watching others have sex. True, there are some tendencies that may be hardwired into us for whatever reason.... but Im concerned w/my own sexuality and sexual satisfaction, not others. Wish everyone a happy, healthy sex life, but other than that it really aint none of my biz.

All those freakshow fetishes you listed are the new norm for porn, not bow-chicka-wow-wow-groovy-harry-hippie 70s porn. That world of porn is dead and gone, and I feel its important to note that those (by comparison of modern materials) seemingly harmless in hindsight productions are what paved the way for where we are now. Its a degenerate form of prostitution/pimping and social engineering. Point blank.
They paved the way, but was the traffic that followed inevitable? No. That's like saying Elvis paved the way for Billie Eilish. Yes, in a sense, the 50's squares who thought rock and roll would unleash the devil were ultimately right, it just took a while. You can, if you want, draw a straight line from Elvis's pelvis to Eilish's demonically-possessed eyes. But it wasn't inevitable. The moral extremes of rock could've plateaued at Naughty. How? Precisely if people hadn't resisted the naughty but had drawn an unbreakable line at, say, overt devil worship. To say that one inevitably leads to the other is to concede the whole game to Satan.
 






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They paved the way, but was the traffic that followed inevitable? No. That's like saying Elvis paved the way for Billie Eilish. Yes, in a sense, the 50's squares who thought rock and roll would unleash the devil were ultimately right, it just took a while. You can, if you want, draw a straight line from Elvis's pelvis to Eilish's demonically-possessed eyes. But it wasn't inevitable. The moral extremes of rock could've plateaued at Naughty. How? Precisely if people hadn't resisted the naughty but had drawn an unbreakable line at, say, overt devil worship. To say that one inevitably leads to the other is to concede the whole game to Satan.
Elvis wasnt performing in the nude my man..........
 






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