You have the right to choose it's a fellowship like how you would choose not to cheat on your wifeIt doesn't feel right, its like we are in a loop of our own consciousness and we can't make real choices of our own.
While I"m not a Christian its just easier to point to the 10 commandments as they also exist in Islam.I refuse to believe that if I live as good,kind,and as loving as is possible for me
That I still burn in hell because my beliefs don't align with what the bible says
The soul itself calls to evil. It is intended this way so we seek forgiveness. How can God show himself to be the most forgiving if none ask for it?According to the commandments the minute ya envy someone your sinning and that makes ya bad
Yes, I've read your stories and the ones who suffer here the most will have the easiest judgement while the oppressors will wish they were returned to sand, never given life to begin with.The mother n father thing so as I have said I came from a horrendous family and their church going and such lead me to believe for a long time that they do what they do because they love me as god says he loves children so much that anyone who harms them better watch out
My harm came for yrs no matter how much I cried out to god to make it stop
It was not til I got away from the church that my w/e ya wanna call it brainwashing ended
I was able to see the evil that so called Christians,Protestants,catholics
As we tried em all were actually perpetrating against their people
Imo as long as ya try to be good and do good its enough to move on to the next phase after death
When we die, wo don't come back, period. When the angel of death takes your soul its over. You're deaths on the table is nothing more then devils playing tricks on you.Coming from someone who died more than once on a table
I know from my experience of non believer in the religions of any kind
That i am not afraid to die because I tried to live in a way
Another atheist/luciferian attempting a pseudo philosophical argument. Boring.Still don't make any sense, they control the world meaning they know the Good and evil of life because they know about the bible and the creator. Saying the elite don't know what they are doing is like learning about something with no brains. I think something is behind the scene that no one knows.
The rebellion of Lucifer means God is not all powerful in the sense that a creation would disobey you. Do you know what that means for someone to say no to his creator? It is powerful. And in the end God still defect him. Its like God is playing all of us.
Tell me, if you were not born or had no knowledge about God would you talk about it? Where was God when were never born. Also, who or what made God.
That's not right either Michi
You do not know what they identify with
because it does not align with your belief/opinion
Then it's bad ?
Wrong I just said my belief
It does not make ya bad to question everything
Some need actual proofs to put their faith behind
especially if they were already let down by past endeavours to find answers
I love this forum for the reason we have a variety of opinions and beliefs here
I myself like the story of 2 wolves
The more ya feed one or the other determines which grows
I refuse to believe that if I live as good,kind,and as loving as is possible for me
That I still burn in hell because my beliefs don't align with what the bible says
According to the commandments the minute ya envy someone your sinning and that makes ya bad
The mother n father thing so as I have said I came from a horrendous family and their church going and such lead me to believe for a long time that they do what they do because they love me as god says he loves children so much that anyone who harms them better watch out
My harm came for yrs no matter how much I cried out to god to make it stop
It was not til I got away from the church that my w/e ya wanna call it brainwashing ended
I was able to see the evil that so called Christians,Protestants,catholics
As we tried em all were actually perpetrating against their people
Imo as long as ya try to be good and do good its enough to move on to the next phase after death
Coming from someone who died more than once on a table
I know from my experience of non believer in the religions of any kind
That i am not afraid to die because I tried to live in a way
that I teach my children and if the world adopted would make it a better place
Treat others the way ya wanna be treated
We are all humans and have the same emotions
Chances are if ya do not like a way someone is treating you
that it would feel the same if you were to treat them that way
Voj
I agree with ya it makes no sense
Thanks for understanding, the problem and solution is ours to solve but everybody wants to be right. To me, life is nothing but a cage.I myself like the story of 2 wolves
The more ya feed one or the other determines which grows
I refuse to believe that if I live as good,kind,and as loving as is possible for me
That I still burn in hell because my beliefs don't align with what the bible says
According to the commandments the minute ya envy someone your sinning and that makes ya bad
The mother n father thing so as I have said I came from a horrendous family and their church going and such lead me to believe for a long time that they do what they do because they love me as god says he loves children so much that anyone who harms them better watch out
My harm came for yrs no matter how much I cried out to god to make it stop
It was not til I got away from the church that my w/e ya wanna call it brainwashing ended
I was able to see the evil that so called Christians,Protestants,catholics
As we tried em all were actually perpetrating against their people
Imo as long as ya try to be good and do good its enough to move on to the next phase after death
Coming from someone who died more than once on a table
I know from my experience of non believer in the religions of any kind
That i am not afraid to die because I tried to live in a way
that I teach my children and if the world adopted would make it a better place
Treat others the way ya wanna be treated
We are all humans and have the same emotions
Chances are if ya do not like a way someone is treating you
that it would feel the same if you were to treat them that way
Voj
I agree with ya it makes no sense
Ego itself is a big reason why "everyone is right". I suggest you ask the Creator to show you the truth. After all, who knows the correct path other then him?Thanks for understanding, the problem and solution is ours to solve but everybody wants to be right. To me, life is nothing but a cage.
We all want to be right, reacting to both good and bad and it goes on and on.I don’t care. Its disingenuous. It’s been done before so much that it’s tired and broke down in 2021. He is playing the tired, old game of trying to win an argument in the guise of attempting to understand someone else’s religion.
It’s like me going up to a Hindu and saying, “The elephant thing. It doesn’t make sense!” And placing the burden of proof on the Hindus to somehow convince me their own spiritual life is valid.
It takes a real open mind to look past arguing and feeling right to try to understand.
I don't think he will give a precise answer because everything about him is in symbols, and he wants us to see things from our own understanding. We become careful when we learn that is why we still exist till date, but some people just want do bad. Its as simple.Ego itself is a big reason why "everyone is right". I suggest you ask the Creator to show you the truth. After all, who knows the correct path other then him?
There was - Nothing before you get Something. Its the something you get that drives you into a confuse state and when you keep digging the loop keep going deep without limit.The only book that doesn't hold punches and shows you how debased the human condition is, is the bible. As to the statement of the OP "NONE" of this is a very broad term. "Some" is more of an apt word to be used.
??? Didn't notice the video.
Hopefully this helps, the way I see it God CREATED a being that turned on Him, That being turned on HIM BECAUSE OF Jealousy, It was Jealous of the relationship between God and HIS CREATION Adam. Its extreme hate of Gods Love for Mankind caused it to trick Humankind into disobedience to God being guilty of the same sin that it had committed and therefore requiring the same penalty for that disobedience that He had pronounced on Satan. So mankind was in a desperate position. Being put into a prison of eternal torment because it had been deceived. Satan however had been in the presence of God and knew what wrath it was invoking people were deceived and did not. So God made a way of escape for mankind He sent Jesus to die the death they deserved for their sin. And receive the right standing with God they couldn't attain for themselves. What are we going to do in heaven? The Bible says EYE HAS NOT SEEN NOR EAR HEARD NEITHER HAS IT ENTERED INTO THE HEART OF MAN WHAT GOD HAS PREPARED FOR THOSE WHO LOVE HIM,THAT ARE CALLED ACORDING TO HIS PURPOSE. So we don't know exactly what He has prepared but we are sure of this, we won't be burning in an eternal hell for disobeying God even tho we are guilty of sinning against Him. He made sure of that He paid our sin debt in full to all who have faith in what Jesus did on the cross. WHEN WE PUT OUR TRUST in Jesus now We can come boldly to the THRONE OF THE FATHER and HE hears US AND answers our prayers .God could have just turned his back destroyed it all and started again BUT mankind carried something precious to HIM ( HIS image).Gods purpose for us to be HIS sons and daughters.Thank you and well explained, but I have few more questions - If God is a living being who created him and his existence, how did he know he was meant to be(God).
Also, he knew Lucifer was going to rebel why create him and at the end still destroy him, It makes no sense. Because Lucifer didn't know him self. He began to feel like God and that did Something. Its like God is both good and bad. I don't think freewill is free because God is the only one who has freewill.
Lastly, you didn't answer my question about after we die and go to heaven so we just praise, worship God forever and that's it?
I am no atheist nor luciferian. Neither have i ever harm anyone, i just want to understand. So i can also help others who are in my shoes to understand.Another atheist/luciferian attempting a pseudo philosophical argument. Boring.
And God spoke all these words:Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
It(Bible) says God Is all knowing and man still turned his back on God how does that add up? It means God is not all knowing. God don't want to see sin Yet! After Adam turned his back on him(God) he still speak to him. It still doesn't add up.Hopefully this helps, the way I see it God CREATED a being that turned on Him, That being turned on HIM BECAUSE OF Jealousy, It was Jealous of the relationship between God and HIS CREATION Adam. Its extreme hate of Gods Love for Mankind caused it to trick Humankind into disobedience to God being guilty of the same sin that it had committed and therefore requiring the same penalty for that disobedience that He had pronounced on Satan. So mankind was in a desperate position. Being put into a prison of eternal torment because it had been deceived. Satan however had been in the presence of God and knew what wrath it was invoking people were deceived and did not. So God made a way of escape for mankind He sent Jesus to die the death they deserved for their sin. And receive the right standing with God they couldn't attain for themselves. What are we going to do in heaven? The Bible says EYE HAS NOT SEEN NOR EAR HEARD NEITHER HAS IT ENTERED INTO THE HEART OF MAN WHAT GOD HAS PREPARED FOR THOSE WHO LOVE HIM,THAT ARE CALLED ACORDING TO HIS PURPOSE. So we don't know exactly what He has prepared but we are sure of this, we won't be burning in an eternal hell for disobeying God even tho we are guilty of sinning against Him. He made sure of that He paid our sin debt in full to all who have faith in what Jesus did on the cross. WHEN WE PUT OUR TRUST in Jesus now We can come boldly to the THRONE OF THE FATHER and HE hears US AND answers our prayers .God could have just turned his back destroyed it all and started again BUT mankind carried something precious to HIM ( HIS image).Gods purpose for us to be HIS sons and daughters.
I Didn't say anything about - Worshiping, what have i done?And God spoke all these words:
“I am YHWH your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.
“You shall have no other gods before me.