None Of This Make Any Sense

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None of this make any sense from the beginning. Why would the elites choose to do evil for the devil and push the end times into time. It makes no sense.

I think God is the beginning and ending of evil, what is the essence of creation? Why regret creating humans if you did not like them? And when the end comes we die and go to heaven and praise God forever and that's it?
 






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None of this make any sense from the beginning. Why would the elites choose to do evil for the devil and push the end times into time. It makes no sense.

I think God is the beginning and ending of evil, what is the essence of creation? Why regret creating humans if you did not like them? And when the end comes we die and go to heaven and praise God forever and that's it?
First off God created good and evil as a means to test mankind.

Second, for God ,our reality is like watching a movie from the beginning and the end at the same time.
The Almighty knows exactly what you are gonna be thinking in 14 days from now at 12:45pm.. His knowledge is literally complete and he knows All things. How many leaves are in a forest, how many grains of sand are on a beach, ect.

It is impossible for him to regret anything because not only does he know exactly how everything will turn out, He has absolute control over every atom so he can change whatever He likes, whenever He likes..

If God didn't like us we wouldn't be here. Not only because of his foreknowledge but the fact that he takes care of me and you constantly. You have food on your plate today because God feeds you.

He is the maintainer of all things. If God slept for a minute the heavens would come crashing down.


As i said, we are here to be tested, where we go from here depends on what choices we make. While those who hold to Gods commandments will have whatever they wish in the coming life.
 






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None of this make any sense from the beginning. Why would the elites choose to do evil for the devil and push the end times into time. It makes no sense.

I think God is the beginning and ending of evil, what is the essence of creation? Why regret creating humans if you did not like them? And when the end comes we die and go to heaven and praise God forever and that's it?
You remind me of Jay (Jason Mewes) in DOGMA.

He's the one dropping all the F-bombs.


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And from another scene, the demon (former "muse")...

Azrael:
"Human, have you ever been to Hell?​
I think not.​
You know, once Hell was nothing more than the absence of God.​
And if you had ever been in His presence, you would know that's punishment enough."​

Very interesting movie.

But the "elites" are doing whatever they are doing, for Themselves... no one else. Their avarice is going bite them in the ass, most ferociously.
 






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First off God created good and evil as a means to test mankind.

Second, for God ,our reality is like watching a movie from the beginning and the end at the same time.
The Almighty knows exactly what you are gonna be thinking in 14 days from now at 12:45pm.. His knowledge is literally complete and he knows All things. How many leaves are in a forest, how many grains of sand are on a beach, ect.

It is impossible for him to regret anything because not only does he know exactly how everything will turn out, He has absolute control over every atom so he can change whatever He likes, whenever He likes..

If God didn't like us we wouldn't be here. Not only because of his foreknowledge but the fact that he takes care of me and you constantly. You have food on your plate today because God feeds you.

He is the maintainer of all things. If God slept for a minute the heavens would come crashing down.


As i said, we are here to be tested, where we go from here depends on what choices we make. While those who hold to Gods commandments will have whatever they wish in the coming life.
Thank you and well explained, but I have few more questions - If God is a living being who created him and his existence, how did he know he was meant to be(God).

Also, he knew Lucifer was going to rebel why create him and at the end still destroy him, It makes no sense. Because Lucifer didn't know him self. He began to feel like God and that did Something. Its like God is both good and bad. I don't think freewill is free because God is the only one who has freewill.

Lastly, you didn't answer my question about after we die and go to heaven so we just praise, worship God forever and that's it?
 






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You remind me of Jay (Jason Mewes) in DOGMA.

He's the one dropping all the F-bombs.


--
And from another scene, the demon (former "muse")...

Azrael:
"Human, have you ever been to Hell?​
I think not.​
You know, once Hell was nothing more than the absence of God.​
And if you had ever been in His presence, you would know that's punishment enough."​

Very interesting movie.

But the "elites" are doing whatever they are doing, for Themselves... no one else. Their avarice is going bite them in the ass, most ferociously.
I don't understand, what's the point.
 






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Jesus Christ is the way out of this hellhole. Jesus Christ clearly states he will forgive ALL sins, you just have to kneel down ( right now) and ask him to forgive your sins and accept him as your Lord and Savior. It's THAT EASY.
Or, just maybe, you could pray and repent to God instead of idols.
 






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Why would the elites choose to do evil for the devil and push the end times into time.
The elites do not realize they do evil. In fact they believe they are doing great things by accumulating wealth and power over the world. Yes it is entirely possible to live through your entire life unaware you are serving the enemy. If you are brought up in the corrupt world, full of deceit, and know only selfishness you will conduct your life according to those principles.

Satan does not want the world to end. He wants to rule it, control it. He has no control over when or how the world will end. The end is inevitable.

Why regret creating humans if you did not like them?
God may have created man to commune with them. In the beginning he was with them before they made their choice. God did not create us to be automatons but freethinking, as you are now.

And when the end comes we die and go to heaven and praise God forever and that's it?
We do not go directly to heaven when we die. Only at the end of the world are dead raised and the “wheat separated from the tares.” The tares are destroyed, not sent to “hell.” The wheat go on to enter the kingdom of heaven.

“Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.”
- Matthew 7:14

It would be presumptuous to assume any one of us is going to make it. That’s why Christianity is a personal, lifelong, spiritual path that requires gradual separation from self. This should sound similar to some other spiritual paths you have heard of.

What they will do in heaven I‘ve no idea. Rolling with God sounds way better than this world or oblivion to me, but again everyone has their choice. Worshipping God will always be a choice not slavery.
 






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None of this make any sense from the beginning. Why would the elites choose to do evil for the devil and push the end times into time. It makes no sense.

I think God is the beginning and ending of evil, what is the essence of creation? Why regret creating humans if you did not like them? And when the end comes we die and go to heaven and praise God forever and that's it?
It's a tough question but ultimately the answer is one of two things in my opinion

Either life has no meaning and is absurd nihilistic pretty much what the Joker or comedian character of the movies thinks.

Or life is fleeting, but to be lived with purpose in hope for a better eternity. That is not to say that your life here doesn't matter because death is inevitable because your spirit is eternal it is only the flesh that dies. Whatever you do here that grieves your spirit will stay with you unless you can cleanse your soul. I feel that cleanse has been offered through Jesus Christ. It's not our job to fully understand what is transpiring because we are not God.

Be still and know that he is God. Whatever happens is his will. How do we know that through his word and it's prophecy which is showing to be forming right now in the world. And we know the beast system will manifest.

Think of it in terms of Christ the same dilemma was presented many Jews felt that Christ was going to overthrow the Roman rule. He wasn't but in his death he defeated the bigger picture, sin and bondage. And I think that's what people are missing here you overcome the world by Christ it gives ultimate meaning because otherwise this is in vain.

This is rebellion to God the elites want to live forever using transhumanism. And if you didn't believe in GOD why wouldn't you but again we do live forever but through Christ so you have the way God ordains things and what man WANTS it to be.

Which I would argue any basic social norm is inspired by God's light and law as we move away from that life becomes more complex and more confusing.

A great analogy is that man's state he is in is the caterpillar, we as caterpillars want to equip ourselves to live forever without passing into a butterfly as God ordained which is the promise of the serpent.

Don't be a caterpillar, don't take the mark it's coming.

The truthers in my opinion that think they are going to somehow resist this in there own strength are mislead and really have no hope to hold on to because when all is said and done they will do alot for peace and safety if the world is in chaos. To overcome fear will take a purpose far beyond liberty, at least the liberty they want to exercise. I believe people will get to a point where they understand only God can save us.

Remember believing in God is about knowing who's God and it's not us.
 






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Just to show god is not always love and kindness
He will punish those who have no clue to the sins they are being punished for
I am starting to think
if god sent lucifer to earth wouldn't that make earth hell ?
We are constantly having awful terrible crap happening here and those who have had it happen in their lives would say it's a living hell
Just my own opinion
 






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Thank you and well explained, but I have few more questions - If God is a living being who created him and his existence, how did he know he was meant to be(God).
The devil whispers in your ears all day long inviting you to evil . While this is one of his favorite questions, "who created the Creator". Personally i don't entertain it because nothing within the creation can compare to the Creator.

"Say, he is God, who is one."
"The Sustainer, needed by all"
"He has never had offspring, nor was he born"
"and there is none comparable to him" (112 : 1-4 Quran)



Also, he knew Lucifer was going to rebel why create him and at the end still destroy him, It makes no sense. Because Lucifer didn't know him self. He began to feel like God and that did Something. Its like God is both good and bad. I don't think freewill is free because God is the only one who has freewill.


God has created beings that he knows are going to hell. What is the point of this? Created for eternal destruction?
As I mentioned above, this life is a test. It is our free will that allows us to make the right decision or the wrong decision. While the right from the wrong has been made clear.

For example, If you see something that belongs to someone else and you take it without permission..If you make the choice to steal something, it will tip the scale towards hell as your final destination.

The devil himself is allowed to exist as part of our test. We are here to see why we end up where we will.
For God this is easy to see, say this person is evil so he's put him in hell. But that person will not know why he's there.


Lastly, you didn't answer my question about after we die and go to heaven so we just praise, worship God forever and that's it?
There are 2 destinations. Eternal torment or eternal bliss. Which one we get will be decided by the choices we make here. As i said above, if you get into heaven whatever you want will be yours. If you want flying unicorns with chocolate lakes its yours. Assuming you have fulfilled what God has sent down.. which is basically the 10 commandments.
 






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The elites do not realize they do evil. In fact they believe they are doing great things by accumulating wealth and power over the world. Yes it is entirely possible to live through your entire life unaware you are serving the enemy. If you are brought up in the corrupt world, full of deceit, and know only selfishness you will conduct your life according to those principles.

Satan does not want the world to end. He wants to rule it, control it. He has no control over when or how the world will end. The end is inevitable.



God may have created man to commune with them. In the beginning he was with them before they made their choice. God did not create us to be automatons but freethinking, as you are now.



We do not go directly to heaven when we die. Only at the end of the world are dead raised and the “wheat separated from the tares.” The tares are destroyed, not sent to “hell.” The wheat go on to enter the kingdom of heaven.

“Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.”
- Matthew 7:14

It would be presumptuous to assume any one of us is going to make it. That’s why Christianity is a personal, lifelong, spiritual path that requires gradual separation from self. This should sound similar to some other spiritual paths you have heard of.

What they will do in heaven I‘ve no idea. Rolling with God sounds way better than this world or oblivion to me, but again everyone has their choice. Worshipping God will always be a choice not slavery.
Still don't make any sense, they control the world meaning they know the Good and evil of life because they know about the bible and the creator. Saying the elite don't know what they are doing is like learning about something with no brains. I think something is behind the scene that no one knows.

The rebellion of Lucifer means God is not all powerful in the sense that a creation would disobey you. Do you know what that means for someone to say no to his creator? It is powerful. And in the end God still defect him. Its like God is playing all of us.

Tell me, if you were not born or had no knowledge about God would you talk about it? Where was God when were never born. Also, who or what made God.
 






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The devil whispers in your ears all day long inviting you to evil . While this is one of his favorite questions, "who created the Creator". Personally i don't entertain it because nothing within the creation can compare to the Creator.

"Say, he is God, who is one."
"The Sustainer, needed by all"
"He has never had offspring, nor was he born"
"and there is none comparable to him" (112 : 1-4 Quran)





God has created beings that he knows are going to hell. What is the point of this? Created for eternal destruction?
As I mentioned above, this life is a test. It is our free will that allows us to make the right decision or the wrong decision. While the right from the wrong has been made clear.

For example, If you see something that belongs to someone else and you take it without permission..If you make the choice to steal something, it will tip the scale towards hell as your final destination.

The devil himself is allowed to exist as part of our test. We are here to see why we end up where we will.
For God this is easy to see, say this person is evil so he's put him in hell. But that person will not know why he's there.



There are 2 destinations. Eternal torment or eternal bliss. Which one we get will be decided by the choices we make here. As i said above, if you get into heaven whatever you want will be yours. If you want flying unicorns with chocolate lakes its yours. Assuming you have fulfilled what God has sent down.. which is basically the 10 commandments.
The Bible says - Man has become one of us knowing good and evil, its like God is both devil and Christ balancing the scale of the judgement. I think every man should be free for the judgement of whatsoever.
 






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We know TPTB lie constantly as a means to an end w/e their goals are
We also know the bible was translated more than once
Reminds me the saying lost in translation
My point any ways is this
What if religion itself was the first created form of control put into place
By TPTB
Be good or your gonna regret it for enternity as ya burn in the eternal flames
again this is my own opinion
 






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Just to show god is not always love and kindness
He will punish those who have no clue to the sins they are being punished for
I am starting to think
if god sent lucifer to earth wouldn't that make earth hell ?
We are constantly having awful terrible crap happening here and those who have had it happen in their lives would say it's a living hell
Just my own opinion
Our brains is like a child that knows nothing about itself, the more we learn, the more we realise nothing make any sense. I believe punishment should be given to those who chose to do evil. Simple.
 






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We know TPTB lie constantly as a means to an end w/e their goals are
We also know the bible was translated more than once
Reminds me the saying lost in translation
My point any ways is this
What if religion itself was the first created form of control put into place
By TPTB
Be good or your gonna regret it for enternity as ya burn in the eternal flames
again this is my own opinion
We are responsible for our action, if we can't control ourselves without the help of God it means we can't do anything by ourselves. Serving God for eternity doesn't add up.
 






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It's a tough question but ultimately the answer is one of two things in my opinion

Either life has no meaning and is absurd nihilistic pretty much what the Joker or comedian character of the movies thinks.

Or life is fleeting, but to be lived with purpose in hope for a better eternity. That is not to say that your life here doesn't matter because death is inevitable because your spirit is eternal it is only the flesh that dies. Whatever you do here that grieves your spirit will stay with you unless you can cleanse your soul. I feel that cleanse has been offered through Jesus Christ. It's not our job to fully understand what is transpiring because we are not God.

Be still and know that he is God. Whatever happens is his will. How do we know that through his word and it's prophecy which is showing to be forming right now in the world. And we know the beast system will manifest.

Think of it in terms of Christ the same dilemma was presented many Jews felt that Christ was going to overthrow the Roman rule. He wasn't but in his death he defeated the bigger picture, sin and bondage. And I think that's what people are missing here you overcome the world by Christ it gives ultimate meaning because otherwise this is in vain.

This is rebellion to God the elites want to live forever using transhumanism. And if you didn't believe in GOD why wouldn't you but again we do live forever but through Christ so you have the way God ordains things and what man WANTS it to be.

Which I would argue any basic social norm is inspired by God's light and law as we move away from that life becomes more complex and more confusing.

A great analogy is that man's state he is in is the caterpillar, we as caterpillars want to equip ourselves to live forever without passing into a butterfly as God ordained which is the promise of the serpent.

Don't be a caterpillar, don't take the mark it's coming.

The truthers in my opinion that think they are going to somehow resist this in there own strength are mislead and really have no hope to hold on to because when all is said and done they will do alot for peace and safety if the world is in chaos. To overcome fear will take a purpose far beyond liberty, at least the liberty they want to exercise. I believe people will get to a point where they understand only God can save us.

Remember believing in God is about knowing who's God and it's not us.
It doesn't feel right, its like we are in a loop of our own consciousness and we can't make real choices of our own.
 






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There are 2 destinations. Eternal torment or eternal bliss. Which one we get will be decided by the choices we make here. As i said above, if you get into heaven whatever you want will be yours. If you want flying unicorns with chocolate lakes its yours. Assuming you have fulfilled what God has sent down.. which is basically the 10 commandments.
I myself like the story of 2 wolves
The more ya feed one or the other determines which grows
I refuse to believe that if I live as good,kind,and as loving as is possible for me
That I still burn in hell because my beliefs don't align with what the bible says
According to the commandments the minute ya envy someone your sinning and that makes ya bad
The mother n father thing so as I have said I came from a horrendous family and their church going and such lead me to believe for a long time that they do what they do because they love me as god says he loves children so much that anyone who harms them better watch out
My harm came for yrs no matter how much I cried out to god to make it stop
It was not til I got away from the church that my w/e ya wanna call it brainwashing ended
I was able to see the evil that so called Christians,Protestants,catholics
As we tried em all were actually perpetrating against their people
Imo as long as ya try to be good and do good its enough to move on to the next phase after death
Coming from someone who died more than once on a table
I know from my experience of non believer in the religions of any kind
That i am not afraid to die because I tried to live in a way
that I teach my children and if the world adopted would make it a better place
Treat others the way ya wanna be treated
We are all humans and have the same emotions
Chances are if ya do not like a way someone is treating you
that it would feel the same if you were to treat them that way

Voj
I agree with ya it makes no sense
 






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