No regard...for the desire of women

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Its what I think I know :D

I see their little girls, they usually don’t wear any coverings, in fact I saw one the other day, running around happy and then saw her mom, covered up...what a life to look forward too...

The point of Christianity if you’re interested is to be saved by Jesus, which is why being nice isn’t the point...
I think you have missed the point of Jesus teaching....

Matthew 22:34-40
John 13:35
Matthew 25:34-40
Matthew 5:3-12

Many of the things Jesus talked about, most of the world would describe as "being nice".
 

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No regard for the desire of women. Yeah that's obvious from the writing of those books. Yet I am still told that being Christian is the best thing a woman can be and she will be treated the best by a Christian in the same breath.

Somewhere those two things don't add up.
 
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No regard for the desire of women. Yeah that's obvious from the writing of those books. Yet I am still told that being Christian is the best thing a woman can be and she will be treated the best by a Christian in the same breath.

Somewhere those two things don't add up.
I think you misunderstanding something Bible here is talking about worse human being in history. And when it says no desire for woman, I'm pretty sure it doesn't mean it as a compliment, so whats doesn't add up is your words "yeah" yet" and everything written below those in your post...
 

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No regard for the desire of women. Yeah that's obvious from the writing of those books. Yet I am still told that being Christian is the best thing a woman can be and she will be treated the best by a Christian in the same breath.

Somewhere those two things don't add up.
Are you talking about the Bible when you say those books then?

A Christian man should treat women better than anyone else but that’s because God is in Him helping him...not because he can do it on his own.
 

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Why would he be homosexual? I agree, he does hate women which is why he denies them their desires.
Now help all humanity, half of it anyway (men) and reveal what woman desire:)
But I knew gay who hated woman, really hated...Dont know how often it happens but fact is happens. Other thing your OP Is just your interpretation, I for one simply think that it means he is gay...
 

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I think you have missed the point of Jesus teaching....

Matthew 22:34-40
John 13:35
Matthew 25:34-40
Matthew 5:3-12

Many of the things Jesus talked about, most of the world would describe as "being nice".
Are the Beatitudes nice?

Is loving someone always nice? God says to love you neighbor as yourself, we don’t always love ourselves nicely so we?

Regarding Matthew 25, I think the most interesting part is those people didn’t even know they did those things, when they say, when did we do those things..
 

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Now help all humanity, half of it anyway (men) and reveal what woman desire:)
But I knew gay who hated woman, really hated...Dont know how often it happens but fact is happens. Other thing your OP Is just your interpretation, I for one simply think that it means he is gay...
Lol, I can’t give away the secret :) because...it’s always changing...;)

I think it was always taught that the anti would be homosexual thinking that he doesn’t desire woman but the verse actually says..
Daniel‬ ‭11:37‬ ‭
He will show no regard for the gods of his fathers or for the desire of women, nor will he show regard for any other god; for he will magnify himself above them all.
Which is why I think the Bible means that he won’t care about what women care about, makes sense to me that way anyway especially since the Bible says..

Genesis‬ ‭3:15‬ ‭
I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise him on the heel.​
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‭‭Edit: underlined a portion of text that I had already made bold.
 

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Lol, I can’t give away the secret :) because...it’s always changing...;)

I think it was always taught that the anti would be homosexual thinking that he doesn’t desire woman but the verse actually says..
Daniel‬ ‭11:37‬ ‭
He will show no regard for the gods of his fathers or for the desire of women, nor will he show regard for any other god; for he will magnify himself above them all.
Which is why I think the Bible means that he won’t care about what women care about, makes sense to me that way anyway especially since the Bible says..

Genesis‬ ‭3:15‬ ‭
I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise him on the heel.​
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Eves seed is all humanity, thats another way to look at it, and I think we are in spiritual battle against serpent of old since the day those words were spoken, and we will win in the end if view it as prophecy.
To be honest I can't make sense of that verse, just doesn't sound right, I will go check how it sounds in my mother tongue, and different translations, and google for interpretations. Hopefully I will be back ( please don't read in Schwarzenegger voice )
 

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Eves seed is all humanity, thats another way to look at it, and I think we are in spiritual battle against serpent of old since the day those words were spoken, and we will win in the end if view it as prophecy.
To be honest I can't make sense of that verse, just doesn't sound right, I will go check how it sounds in my mother tongue, and different translations, and google for interpretations. Hopefully I will be back ( please don't read in Schwarzenegger voice )
The Genesis verse says that He will put enmity between the serpent and the woman first then her seed and his. So I can see where that would match up with the seed of the serpent, the anti, having a hatred of women.
 

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The Genesis verse says that He will put enmity between the serpent and the woman first then her seed and his. So I can see where that would match up with the seed of the serpent, the anti, having a hatred of women.
Woman is also mentioned in revelation, that time having problems with dragon...is that the same woman? Or is serpent and dragon the same?
About Dan 12:37 Read any other translation than kjv, basically all of them says he will show no regard to his ancestors God nor God desired/loved by woman. As I see it he won't be from Christian faith. That's all that verse says to me, kjv is not the best option in this case, happens sometimes..
 

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I think you misunderstanding something Bible here is talking about worse human being in history. And when it says no desire for woman, I'm pretty sure it doesn't mean it as a compliment, so whats doesn't add up is your words "yeah" yet" and everything written below those in your post...
I'm just replying to what OP used this quote for, does OP misunderstand the bible? I know it refers to the Antichrist, but the Antichrist is a creation from God as we all are according to the bible. And other Monotheistic religions.

I quote:
“I will put enmity between you and the woman…”. It would seem that this verse has a lot to do with the beginning of the disregard for women. It all started in the beginning, and it just keeps on increasing and having a huge, negative impact on women and everyone really.

I don't see what distinguishes the Antichrist from God, using this verse and others as a reference.
 

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Woman is also mentioned in revelation, that time having problems with dragon...is that the same woman? Or is serpent and dragon the same?
About Dan 12:37 Read any other translation than kjv, basically all of them says he will show no regard to his ancestors God nor God desired/loved by woman. As I see it he won't be from Christian faith. That's all that verse says to me, kjv is not the best option in this case, happens sometimes..
This woman?
Revelation‬ ‭12:5-6‬ ‭
And she gave birth to a son, a male child, who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron; and her child was caught up to God and to His throne. Then the woman fled into the wilderness where she *had a place prepared by God, so that there she would be nourished for one thousand two hundred and sixty days.​
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I thought that woman was Israel. Even though it was Mary that actually gave birth, she was a Jew and Jesus was sent to the Jews first. We also read where Jesus tells the Jews to flee into the wilderness when the anti is revealed.
Mark‬ ‭13:14‬ ‭
But when you see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION standing where it should not be (let the reader understand), then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains.​
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The dragon being the seed of the serpent, the antichrist.

I think the kjv matches up to the nasb for the wording, actually. What I was trying to point out was that the verse tells us is that he will show no regard for the gods of his fathers and he will show no regard for the desire of women, not will he show regard for any other god. So, if you keep it in the context that he is first showing no regard and then add what it is he is showing no regard for..gods of his fathers, desire of women, any other god...it makes more sense then.

Daniel‬ ‭11:37
He will show no regard for the gods of his fathers or for the desire of women, nor will he show regard for any other god; for he will magnify himself above them all.
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I'm just replying to what OP used this quote for, does OP misunderstand the bible? I know it refers to the Antichrist, but the Antichrist is a creation from God as we all are according to the bible. And other Monotheistic religions.

I quote:
“I will put enmity between you and the woman…”. It would seem that this verse has a lot to do with the beginning of the disregard for women. It all started in the beginning, and it just keeps on increasing and having a huge, negative impact on women and everyone really.

I don't see what distinguishes the Antichrist from God, using this verse and others as a reference.
Man is a creation of God but we are free to go the way we like whether that’s to God or away from Him. He’d like us to come to Him..but He doesn’t force us to.

The antichrist has gone so far away from God that he hates God. Not only that, but he thinks that he is God. This is the serpent’s seed, satan’s seed. Satan also wanted to be like God..so its no wonder his seed will want to too.
Isaiah‬ ‭14:13-14‬ ‭
But you said in your heart, ‘I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God, And I will sit on the mount of assembly In the recesses of the north. I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.​
‭‭ The antichrist..
Daniel‬ ‭11:37‬
He will show no regard for the gods of his fathers or for the desire of women, nor will he show regard for any other god; for he will magnify himself above them all.
‭‭ ‭and..
‭‭2 Thessalonians‬ ‭2:3-4‬ ‭
And the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God.
 

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An interesting variant reading I heard once was that the AC would show “no regard for the desired of women” I.e. the one Jewish women desired to give birth to: the Messiah.

Since the Antichrist by his very nature would be entirely dismissive of Man’s need for a Saviour (perhaps encouraging people to embrace apotheosis instead) that interpretation would stand to sense in this context.
 

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This woman?
Revelation‬ ‭12:5-6‬ ‭
And she gave birth to a son, a male child, who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron; and her child was caught up to God and to His throne. Then the woman fled into the wilderness where she *had a place prepared by God, so that there she would be nourished for one thousand two hundred and sixty days.​
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I thought that woman was Israel. Even though it was Mary that actually gave birth, she was a Jew and Jesus was sent to the Jews first. We also read where Jesus tells the Jews to flee into the wilderness when the anti is revealed.
Mark‬ ‭13:14‬ ‭
But when you see the ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION standing where it should not be (let the reader understand), then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains.​
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The dragon being the seed of the serpent, the antichrist.

I think the kjv matches up to the nasb for the wording, actually. What I was trying to point out was that the verse tells us is that he will show no regard for the gods of his fathers and he will show no regard for the desire of women, not will he show regard for any other god. So, if you keep it in the context that he is first showing no regard and then add what it is he is showing no regard for..gods of his fathers, desire of women, any other god...it makes more sense then.

Daniel‬ ‭11:37
He will show no regard for the gods of his fathers or for the desire of women, nor will he show regard for any other god; for he will magnify himself above them all.
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Ok I understand your line of thinking, oh well will see...Or rather let's hope we don't...
 

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Ok I understand your line of thinking, oh well will see...Or rather let's hope we don't...
Someone will see it..I didn’t quote all the verses that go with it.
‭‭2 Thessalonians‬ ‭2:1-4‬ ‭
Now we request you, brethren, with regard to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, that you not be quickly shaken from your composure or be disturbed either by a spirit or a message or a letter as if from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God.​

I think I must be crazy..I want to see it. :eek:
 

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I'm just replying to what OP used this quote for, does OP misunderstand the bible? I know it refers to the Antichrist, but the Antichrist is a creation from God as we all are according to the bible. And other Monotheistic religions.

I quote:
“I will put enmity between you and the woman…”. It would seem that this verse has a lot to do with the beginning of the disregard for women. It all started in the beginning, and it just keeps on increasing and having a huge, negative impact on women and everyone really.

I don't see what distinguishes the Antichrist from God, using this verse and others as a reference.
Name and characteristics for starters. Antichrist is antigod and antigood. He was a human once and he chose his own path. God doesn't forced him it was his own desires. Does God responsible for your daily decisions or when you make a mistake do you right away blame God for it ? Let's say OP got it right, even though I don't believe it for a second, but let's say it does, and it will be dog days for woman, is it Gods fault. Why is he responsible for everything bad, while we take what good happens to us for granted ?
? 3,5 years of hard life for eternity in paradise what a poor trade...Even though Bible is clear who will be persecuted in those days. I hope my faith will not fail me and I take persecution gladly and rejoice in it....
 

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Someone will see it..I didn’t quote all the verses that go with it.
‭‭2 Thessalonians‬ ‭2:1-4‬ ‭
Now we request you, brethren, with regard to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, that you not be quickly shaken from your composure or be disturbed either by a spirit or a message or a letter as if from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God.​

I think I must be crazy..I want to see it. :eek:
Okay okay I want it too :)
 
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