NEOM the city -Is it Babylon?

Vixy

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A city being built in Saudi Arabia to the point exactly where the bible says babylon would be. It fits perfectly with the prophecies in the bible.


The elite will live there.


 
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phipps

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That is not end time Babylon and it doesn't fit in with Bible end time prophecy at all.

End-time Babylon will be a confederacy of intolerance and false doctrine. This end-time confederacy, however, will fall just like ancient Babylon did. It will even fall for the same reasons—because it will seduce all the nations of the earth into following its false doctrines (Revelation 14:8). Christ will put an end once and for all to all the lies, deception, and hatred when He comes.

According to Revelation 16, end-time Babylon will be a three-part confederacy. The three components are the Dragon, the Beast, and the False Prophet.

"And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty" (Revelation 16:13-14)
 

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That is not end time Babylon and it doesn't fit in with Bible end time prophecy at all.

End-time Babylon will be a confederacy of intolerance and false doctrine. This end-time confederacy, however, will fall just like ancient Babylon did. It will even fall for the same reasons—because it will seduce all the nations of the earth into following its false doctrines (Revelation 14:8). Christ will put an end once and for all to all the lies, deception, and hatred when He comes.

According to Revelation 16, end-time Babylon will be a three-part confederacy. The three components are the Dragon, the Beast, and the False Prophet.

"And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty" (Revelation 16:13-14)
Soo how doesnt it fit?
 

phipps

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Soo how doesnt it fit?
For starters Neom is a new city. Babylon isn't. Revelation 17 describes Mother Babylon and the beast she rides. Here are some of the points:

A. She persecuted the saints (verse 6).

B. She was dressed in purple and scarlet (verse 4).

C. The seven heads of the beast (verse 3) upon which the woman is seated are seven mountains (verse 9).

D. The beast is guilty of blasphemy (verse 3).

E. She ruled “over the kings of the earth” (verse 18).

"And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH." Revelation 17:5.

Its way too late in the day for Neom to be Babylon. We are nearer to Babylon's fall than its beginning. Read Revelation 18 because its all about Babylon's fall.

I posted more about it here.
 
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It still shocks me that people who read the Bible still don't know what the whore of babylon is.

Who did Jesus say kills the prophets and people sent to them?
Jerusalem.

In Jeremiah 2&3 who is called the adulteress/whore?
Jews.
In the same chapters you see the themes of stones and trees as symbols of idolatry.

Now read Habakkuk 2 which is about ancient Babylon. The same themes come up but it gets deeper. We learn that the Chaldeans ruled people through money lending. The stones and trees are symbolises in the "taunt" where it says the bricks and the beams (stones/wood) will speak out. This is not literal but symbolic because the Chaldeans used their position take what wasn't theirs.
However it is deeper than event that. It tells us the creditors will rise up against them. That means the Chaldeans didn't truely own their wealth. There were wealthier people who gave money to the Chaldeans and allowed them to practice usury.

Now Zechariah 5 directly connects the Jews to Babylon. The wicked woman would be taken there and her house would be set there. What did Jews learn in Babylon? Everything. However look for more clues...
The stones and trees theme is in that chapter yet again. The woman in the basket representing wickedness is a no brainer. However read between the lines on the "curse" verse. To the thief and the one who swears falsely.
one again that is referring to usury. Think of mortgages.

The whore sits on the beast to take it to it's destination. When that's accomplish the beast destroys the whore.

The beast is Rome. The woman sitting on the beast symbolises the Jews having control over the beast system for a time.

Daniel 2 told us of 2 periods of time. The legs of iron and feet of iron/clay
The legs of iron era has passed. It was the original Roman empire.
The feet of iron/clay was the re-emergence of Rome.
Take a look at the age of colonialism. Those colonial powers were all former Roman colonies and hence "Rome". The countries they conquered represent the clay.

Read Revelation 6. The white horse prophecy was colonialism.
The red horse was death, symbolic of the world wars, the holocaust etc.
The black horse synbises the post ww2 era, the capitalist era. Notice it says "do not harm the oil and wine". Oil and wine symbolise Israel/Judea.
That's the era we live in...although we are shifting Into the final horse prophecy which is pretty bad.

The beast is a globalised world system. Something we are witnessing today. Who controls it?

Also if you read the mystery babylon prophecy, it talks of the kings of the earth committing adultery with her. That reminds me of Saudi Arabia and Jordan being friends with Israel. It's the counties without kings like syria and Lebanon who are targeted

It talks of the world being "drunk on the wine of her adulteries" eg news, music, tv, movies, porn.
It talks of an economic system where her merchants are the world's most important people.

It could not be more obvious, yet even when it's spelled out most Christians still won't get it.

Also, Martin Luther was a bit of a nutcase. He accused the pope in his time of being THE antichrist and the Catholic church the "whore of Babylon".
It doesn't fit because the antichrist would destroy the whore.
Protestants picked up his belief and still say the Catholic church is the whore of Babylon.
They are unaware of the origins of that false teaching.
 

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Well, i dunno.. But its weird thats its placed where Babylon will be placed.

Anywho, I'm just an Ape, what do I know? :D
 

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Well, i dunno.. But its weird thats its placed where Babylon will be placed.

Anywho, I'm just an Ape, what do I know? :D
Ancient Babylon was in the middle east and its headquarters are where modern day Iraq is. End time Babylon of Revelation, does not refer to ancient or literal Babylon nor is it in the middle east.
 

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Vixy, I believe you are correct in this. The other replies use a lot of conjecture and speculation. The Bible says the merchants will wail when Mystery Babylon is destroyed, because she made them rich. Neom's goal is to be the trade hub of the world. The Bible also says in Daniel 11:45 that the antichrist will build his palace on the holy mountain. This is actually located in the area Neom will be built, paving the way for that prophecy's fulfillment. Neom will be an autonomous state in Saudi Arabia, not governed by Sharia law. It will probably be like a Dubai, but with no religios laws, havig an anything goes kind of atmosphere. It's also right at Israel's doorstep, which would make it very easy to invade Israel. I don't know what's actually going to happen, but this is definitely check8ng the right boxes.
 
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