Nature Of The Hierarchy

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In my postings on the elite, I've found it difficult to make any definite statements concerning their influence. Unfortunately so few actual facts exist, leaving us with more rumor and speculation to build on. However, there are deductions one can make for a better understanding of the situation.

First: Can there be a guiding, singular force directing a major part of human society or at least of western influence? Possibly.

Second: Would this organization advertise itself (aka the Illuminati) and induct wannabee Pop & R&B stars among world leaders to secretly rule humanity? Probably not.

Third: Are there elements of society including occult, intelligence, fraternities, criminal, families, cartels, etc., that secretly use their power to further their agendas; often sharing similar viewpoints and goals with others? Yes.

Thus an elite who believes that they have knowledge-power to lead humanity with others of like mind could technically be considered a member of the Illuminati. However, as others have pointed out, this is an adjective rather than a proper noun; a distinction that most people don't seem to make. Might there still be over-arching agendas or groups controlling Human development? If so, is it of a great mystery which few of us could imagine?

 






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SkepticCat

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We already know secret societies exist and that many members of high society are members. We also know some people in positions of power are not inclined to always do the morally right thing, even as people below them with far less power and material wealth suffer. There are both trillionaires and people starving to death on Earth.

It actually doesn't take a great stretch of the imagination to suggest 'the Illuminati' exists. Given the nature of the human mind, the power structure of civilization and human history (at least the version we're told), it would in fact be quite illogical to suggest it doesn't, that no power-mongering hidden hand exists. The only real question is what the true goal of such groups are. If a such group is willing to ruthlessly pursue power for the sake of power itself with no moral qualms whatsoever it could indeed create a system most would experience as extremely negative.

The music-industry 'conspiracy' is likewise not far-fetched as all. The driving motivator for all human endeavors is the subconscious mind. Survival instincts, sexual impulses and more stem from here. If one is therefore able to shape and define the human subconscious one is able to define these individuals' experienced reality. Most people laugh, but this would actually explain the reason for all the occult themes in contemporary [pop] culture. To build the ultimate prison, have the prisoners believe they are free. What gets distributed by way of mass media is actually of greatest concern as it literally defines experienced reality itself.

Personally, having perceived the vast scope of the ways in which we're being conditioned in nefarious ways, often with direct subliminals, but also through means such as demonstrably staged world events and controlled news, I find the notion of there being no presence of a such 'hidden hand' completely ludicrous. Humanity finds itself at a perilous crossroads where the choice is made between either definitively submitting to the rule of these controlling overlords or breaking free from them.
 






Qedr

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The music-industry 'conspiracy' is likewise not far-fetched as all. The driving motivator for all human endeavors is the subconscious mind. Survival instincts, sexual impulses and more stem from here. If one is therefore able to shape and define the human subconscious one is able to define these individuals' experienced reality. Most people laugh, but this would actually explain the reason for all the occult themes in contemporary [pop] culture. To build the ultimate prison, have the prisoners believe they are free. What gets distributed by way of mass media is actually of greatest concern as it literally defines experienced reality itself.
This. I believe that mass media and entertainment is a great way to shape people. Either influencing our primal instincts (survival, reproduction, hunger, aggression) or more sophisticated senses such as political view is way easier when it is made by manner that is pleasant to us (such as art). Giving proper education through numerous sources (school, media etc) you can produce a person exactly thinking and behaving exactly how you want to, but still having a sense of freedom. I'm far from being a psychologist and it's just the outcome of my personal observation over numerous people (I like calling this thing being "ghetto-minded").

Also I think that human morality can be shaped in the same way, which can be seen in modern generation of the self(ie).
 






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