My Trump Questions

justjess

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sigh. okay.
the wall: i never thought that would happen and did not care about it. but, it still could happen in theory.
Nothing on healthcare has gone through yet. has the medicaid thing passed? would love a link. also if you have a link to tax plan i thought that had not gone through yet also.
He has some cabinet picks i do like. i guess it depends who you think "the swamp" is.
Who do YOU think the swamp is?

As far as I'm concerned a bunch of J.P. Morganbankers, lobbyists and billionaires qualifies.

Days after entering office they came out and said the wall wasn't happening. Certainly not on mexicos dime. Doesn't matter if you care you asked for examples of broken promises and i gave one. Lots of people did really care about the wall.

No, they didn't pass yet. They are proposed and approved by him though after he promised not to do those things. If He had his way they would be passed, so again broken promises.

You can't sugar coat anything to make it fit what u want. Doesn't change the truth.
 

Lazarus Long

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He sold himself exactly how he had to in order to appeal to the people he needed to appeal to.

Never forget trump was a democrat for a long long time.

He knew which group was ripe for pandering to. He knew how to do it. Same way businesses figure out marketing.

He has had plenty of time to show what he intends to do and almost on every point it contradicts what he promised to do during his campaign.

His own party controls congress, he doesn't have the same barrier to fulfilling his promises Obama did so the only excuse is he didn't really want to, he just said what he needed to say to get votes.
Promises kept

· Trump imposed a hiring freeze on the federal workforce, with the exception of military, public safety and public health officials. While he promised to do this on day one, he implemented it Jan. 23. The freeze expired on April 12.

· Trump signed a “Two-for-One” regulation executive order, as promised, that would require agencies to eliminate two regulations for every new regulation passed. This was another item Trump promised for day one, though it slipped a bit.

· Trump signed an executive order to impose a five-year ban on White House and congressional officials becoming lobbyists when they finish work in government.

· Trump signed an executive order to institute a lifetime ban on White House officials lobbying on behalf of a foreign government.

· Trump signed a presidential memorandum notifying a withdrawal from the Trans-Pacific Partnership.

· Trump ordered a study to identify and investigate all foreign trading abuses.

· Trump granted approval for the construction of the Keystone XL Pipeline, following through on a vow to move forward on energy infrastructure projects.

· Trump nominated, and won confirmation, for a successor to the late Justice Antonin Scalia on the Supreme Court, Neil Gorsuch.

· Trump signed a bill to extend the Veterans Choice Program to deliver on a promise to give veterans the ability to receive public VA treatment, or see a private doctor of their choice.

· Trump signed multiple executive orders to create new task forces to fight crime and drug cartels.

· Trump directed Secretary of State Rex Tillerson to order embassies to increase scrutiny and security checks before issuing visas to ensure new screening procedures for immigration to the U.S.

· Trump signed ethics policies to “drain the swamp” by making it harder for people to profit from their time in government.

· Trump ordered departments and agencies to identify wasteful spending on programs and asked for recommendations for potential improvements.
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Just because his own party "controls" congress doesn't mean he does. Just because they are republicans doesn't mean they are not paid by people like Soros and his ilk.

And hey, it's politics. it's never going to be perfect, but at least we don't have to look at the ugly face and big ears of king liar obama anymore.
I wonder if you were this passionate about how bad that dude was. Something tells me you weren't.
 

Lazarus Long

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Who do YOU think the swamp is?

As far as I'm concerned a bunch of J.P. Morganbankers, lobbyists and billionaires qualifies.

Days after entering office they came out and said the wall wasn't happening. Certainly not on mexicos dime. Doesn't matter if you care you asked for examples of broken promises and i gave one. Lots of people did really care about the wall.

No, they didn't pass yet. They are proposed and approved by him though after he promised not to do those things. If He had his way they would be passed, so again broken promises.

You can't sugar coat anything to make it fit what u want. Doesn't change the truth.
Uhhh, actually the swamp is the many thousands of bureaucrats that work in government and have been secretly employed by the CIA and other covert agencies to bring about a socialist agenda. The FBI alone has 80,000 employees. Bankers are bad, I won't argue there, but there is a lot more to the story than this facet.
 

Devine

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Who do YOU think the swamp is?

As far as I'm concerned a bunch of J.P. Morganbankers, lobbyists and billionaires qualifies.

Days after entering office they came out and said the wall wasn't happening. Certainly not on mexicos dime. Doesn't matter if you care you asked for examples of broken promises and i gave one. Lots of people did really care about the wall.

No, they didn't pass yet. They are proposed and approved by him though after he promised not to do those things. If He had his way they would be passed, so again broken promises.

You can't sugar coat anything to make it fit what u want. Doesn't change the truth.
well, I think "the swamp" is the satanist pedophiles. but that's just my opinion OBVIOUSLY :)
the promise he made was to build a wall as president. he will be president for another three and a half years. therefore the statement "he broke his promise" cannot be made, yet. this is just simple logic right?
also making statements like "if he had his way" just tells me you are not sticking to the facts. i don't think any of us can read his mind.
 

Devine

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He ha a majority when ACA passed. Whether or not you think it was a good thing that fact remains.

I'm not an Obama fan or something. He is flawed like all the rest. But when he did have a majority of his party he did accomplish most of what he said he would.

Trump has an overwhelming majority and is still floundering. You can't compare the two. He isn't fulfilling his promises because he doesn't want to - there is no legislative hurdle in his case
how can we compare records of six months to eight years? that's just bad science lol
 

justjess

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Promises kept

· Trump imposed a hiring freeze on the federal workforce, with the exception of military, public safety and public health officials. While he promised to do this on day one, he implemented it Jan. 23. The freeze expired on April 12.

· Trump signed a “Two-for-One” regulation executive order, as promised, that would require agencies to eliminate two regulations for every new regulation passed. This was another item Trump promised for day one, though it slipped a bit.

· Trump signed an executive order to impose a five-year ban on White House and congressional officials becoming lobbyists when they finish work in government.

· Trump signed an executive order to institute a lifetime ban on White House officials lobbying on behalf of a foreign government.

· Trump signed a presidential memorandum notifying a withdrawal from the Trans-Pacific Partnership.

· Trump ordered a study to identify and investigate all foreign trading abuses.

· Trump granted approval for the construction of the Keystone XL Pipeline, following through on a vow to move forward on energy infrastructure projects.

· Trump nominated, and won confirmation, for a successor to the late Justice Antonin Scalia on the Supreme Court, Neil Gorsuch.

· Trump signed a bill to extend the Veterans Choice Program to deliver on a promise to give veterans the ability to receive public VA treatment, or see a private doctor of their choice.

· Trump signed multiple executive orders to create new task forces to fight crime and drug cartels.

· Trump directed Secretary of State Rex Tillerson to order embassies to increase scrutiny and security checks before issuing visas to ensure new screening procedures for immigration to the U.S.

· Trump signed ethics policies to “drain the swamp” by making it harder for people to profit from their time in government.

· Trump ordered departments and agencies to identify wasteful spending on programs and asked for recommendations for potential improvements.
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Just because his own party "controls" congress doesn't mean he does. Just because they are republicans doesn't mean they are not paid by people like Soros and his ilk.

And hey, it's politics. it's never going to be perfect, but at least we don't have to look at the ugly face and big ears of king liar obama anymore.
I wonder if you were this passionate about how bad that dude was. Something tells me you weren't.
Are u from NYC or NJ? I personally know people trump screwed over prior to being president. Can't say the same for Obama. Whom by the way I didn't vote for and didn't like. Your giving me a straw man to make it look like I'm biased against trump cuz I'm speaking facts you don't like.

Devin if he approved the legislation it's fair to say he wants it passed. There's nothing illogical or emotional about that deduction.
 

justjess

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Promises kept

· Trump imposed a hiring freeze on the federal workforce, with the exception of military, public safety and public health officials. While he promised to do this on day one, he implemented it Jan. 23. The freeze expired on April 12.

· Trump signed a “Two-for-One” regulation executive order, as promised, that would require agencies to eliminate two regulations for every new regulation passed. This was another item Trump promised for day one, though it slipped a bit.

· Trump signed an executive order to impose a five-year ban on White House and congressional officials becoming lobbyists when they finish work in government.

· Trump signed an executive order to institute a lifetime ban on White House officials lobbying on behalf of a foreign government.

· Trump signed a presidential memorandum notifying a withdrawal from the Trans-Pacific Partnership.

· Trump ordered a study to identify and investigate all foreign trading abuses.

· Trump granted approval for the construction of the Keystone XL Pipeline, following through on a vow to move forward on energy infrastructure projects.

· Trump nominated, and won confirmation, for a successor to the late Justice Antonin Scalia on the Supreme Court, Neil Gorsuch.

· Trump signed a bill to extend the Veterans Choice Program to deliver on a promise to give veterans the ability to receive public VA treatment, or see a private doctor of their choice.

· Trump signed multiple executive orders to create new task forces to fight crime and drug cartels.

· Trump directed Secretary of State Rex Tillerson to order embassies to increase scrutiny and security checks before issuing visas to ensure new screening procedures for immigration to the U.S.

· Trump signed ethics policies to “drain the swamp” by making it harder for people to profit from their time in government.

· Trump ordered departments and agencies to identify wasteful spending on programs and asked for recommendations for potential improvements.
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Just because his own party "controls" congress doesn't mean he does. Just because they are republicans doesn't mean they are not paid by people like Soros and his ilk.

And hey, it's politics. it's never going to be perfect, but at least we don't have to look at the ugly face and big ears of king liar obama anymore.
I wonder if you were this passionate about how bad that dude was. Something tells me you weren't.
Yet he hired lobbyists and some of his cabinet had to register as foreign agents. Do the rules just not apply to his personal picks? Open your eyes.
 

justjess

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well, I think "the swamp" is the satanist pedophiles. but that's just my opinion OBVIOUSLY :)
the promise he made was to build a wall as president. he will be president for another three and a half years. therefore the statement "he broke his promise" cannot be made, yet. this is just simple logic right?
also making statements like "if he had his way" just tells me you are not sticking to the facts. i don't think any of us can read his mind.
He said the wall isn't going to o happen, if it does it will be paid for by American citizens not Mexico, and will be vastly reduced in size to basically the section we already have covered by a wall.

He's a salesmen. Open your eyes.
 

justjess

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how can we compare records of six months to eight years? that's just bad science lol
That's actually not science at all. Obama had a majority for two years. Not eight. We are comparing similar legislative situations. Best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.
 

Devine

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That's actually not science at all. Obama had a majority for two years. Not eight. We are comparing similar legislative situations. Best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.
science was joke. like if this was a study that wouldn't be good controls...lol anyhow I was comparing their two presidency's not the times they had a majority. so.
all i know is this conversation all got started because i put up a quote that made me happy about him spending less on war. and you wanted to say that you don't think he keeps his promises. i think you've said it now. we hear you.
 

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He said the wall isn't going to o happen, if it does it will be paid for by American citizens not Mexico, and will be vastly reduced in size to basically the section we already have covered by a wall.

He's a salesmen. Open your eyes.
i'd like to see a quote where he said that it "isn't going to happen". a link please. and the others i asked for? i believe that's standard around here i see people asking for a link a lot.
 

Lazarus Long

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Yet he hired lobbyists and some of his cabinet had to register as foreign agents. Do the rules just not apply to his personal picks? Open your eyes.
not going to argue with that. He isn't great, but the choices we had... Hillary (god no) and Bernie (Wasn't in it to win).
I just smile when I see the establishment being broken down, even if it is just a new one.
 
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