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I have a sincere question for Muslims, because although I am a Christian, I respect the zeal of the Muslims.

I have noticed recently, unfortunately, that some Muslims (self-proclaimed) are becoming more “accepting” of the homosexuals.

WHY?!??

Is there a shift happening in the Muslim community?

Unfortunately, this has already occurred in mainstream Christianity...even though God has NOT changed, many Christians have already compromised the truth and are pushing the lie that God is not disgusted with homosexual behavior.

It is disgrace, and shows the cowardice & lack of faith of so-called “Christians” who are too afraid to stand up for the TRUTH.

But Muslims...this is one thing we agree with you on. We BOTH KNOW homosexuality is unnatural and completely UNACCEPTABLE in the eyes of God.

What is going on?

Why are more & more Muslims becoming soft on homosexuality?

Once they get their foot in the door, they will be in your mosques...and they won’t be there to worship, they will be there to get to your children.

Please beware, do not bend on your beliefs, because once you do, you can never get it back.

It has infested Christian churches because preachers got scared of their threats.

Muslims are the LAST ones standing against homosexuality. If you give in, they will take over completely.
 






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Homosexuality whether it be man with man or woman with woman will never be acceptable in Islam.

"Do you indeed approach men with desire instead of women? Rather, you are a people behaving ignorantly."
(27:55 Quran)


Anyone familiar with the story of Prophet Lut (Lot) would see pro-homosexuality is not a winnable debate in Islam.

Sadly we find ourselves in an age where knowledge is being removed and it is being replaced with ignorance, which is a sign of the hour. In multiple places today you will find gay imams, gay Islamic speakers, gay Muslim students, ect.

My question is... Can you represent a religion when you choose a lifestyle in direct contradiction with it?
 






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even though God has NOT changed, many Christians have already compromised the truth and are pushing the lie that God is not disgusted with homosexual behavior..

Organised christian religions have got satan's fingerprints all over them, so of course the gutless pol-correct church bosses would say perversion is okay.
Fact is, the vast majority of normal decent christians don't condone any form of perversion, and are content to leave it to God to deal with pervs on judgement day which will be endgame for them..:)

"He who is unjust, let him be unjust still; he who is filthy, let him be filthy still; he who is righteous, let him be righteous still; he who is holy, let him be holy still." (Revelation 22:11)
 






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Why are more & more Muslims becoming soft on homosexuality?

Once they get their foot in the door, they will be in your mosques...and they won’t be there to worship, they will be there to get to your children.
Thanks Claire for bringing up this topic.

We have been blessed to have warnings from many good people from other paths who have come to our mosques to warn us about how we are being targeted in many western countries by these communities.

SCHOOL TEACHER EXPOSES HOW THEY ARE TARGETING MUSLIM CHILDREN

Few Muslims are cognizant about the fact that the education system largely indoctrinates towards secular unIslamic values.
I remember this quote from a homeschooling website," When you send your children to Caesar's schools do not be surprised when they come back as little Romans." I would urge Muslims to primarily home-school their children and if they can not at least send them to Muslims schools.

There are Muslim activists that are addressing these concerns such as the ones below:

Politically Incorrect about LGBT w/ Daniel Haqiqatjou [Pt. 4]
Daniel's Blog: https://muslimskeptic.com (He has articles specific to that topic as well).

Western Muslims need to do more work and outreach in their communities.
Some Muslims are definitely going soft and I think it is because many of their 'leadership' have gone on marches with radical leftists such as the ones that populate the Women's marches in the US, where they sacrifice Islamic values to fit in. (largely it is because it is these groups that march against the wars).
It would have been more prudent for them to join with groups that are anti-war and socially conservative instead.
As a community we are just coming to understand the forces we are up against in many western nations and globally.
We also have to face the internal enemies that are selling out and even deliberately infiltrating the community to bring forth these agendas
The only silver lining is that I am confident this will never become the norm in Muslim majority countries, despite the efforts of some NGOs that have also been sent there. :(
 






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I have a sincere question for Muslims, because although I am a Christian, I respect the zeal of the Muslims.

I have noticed recently, unfortunately, that some Muslims (self-proclaimed) are becoming more “accepting” of the homosexuals.

WHY?!??

Is there a shift happening in the Muslim community?

Unfortunately, this has already occurred in mainstream Christianity...even though God has NOT changed, many Christians have already compromised the truth and are pushing the lie that God is not disgusted with homosexual behavior.

It is disgrace, and shows the cowardice & lack of faith of so-called “Christians” who are too afraid to stand up for the TRUTH.

But Muslims...this is one thing we agree with you on. We BOTH KNOW homosexuality is unnatural and completely UNACCEPTABLE in the eyes of God.

What is going on?

Why are more & more Muslims becoming soft on homosexuality?

Once they get their foot in the door, they will be in your mosques...and they won’t be there to worship, they will be there to get to your children.

Please beware, do not bend on your beliefs, because once you do, you can never get it back.

It has infested Christian churches because preachers got scared of their threats.

Muslims are the LAST ones standing against homosexuality. If you give in, they will take over completely.
Thank-you. It's imperative to NEVER confuse Satan's organized religions with The Word of God, and this subject emphasizes that critically important point.

ALL organized religion was created by Satan to keep people AWAY from God.

Using the 3 allegedly "monotheistic" organized religions as examples, please consider:

1) Talmudic Judaism is based upon the Talmud, even though it falsely claims to be based on God's Law. The writing or teaching of the traditions of the fathers/elders, aka the Talmud, are capital offenses under The Law that God gave us, because they make the Commandments of God of no effect. Talmudic Judaism rejects the New Covenant and the Koran (Quran) that came after it.

2) "Christianity" is based upon the teachings of "the mother church" (Roman Catholicism, aka the traditions of the fathers/priests), which is repeatedly condemned throughout Scripture. Roman Catholicism (the Great Whore) gave birth ALL of the protestant denominations and to "Islam" as well. Even though the "Christians" are at least open-minded enough to include the Old Covenant with the New Covenant in the Bible, they twist the words of Christ, Who plainly stated that heaven and earth would pass away before the slightest punctuation mark was changed in The Law that God gave us.

3) "Islam" is based upon the Hadith, i.e. the alleged teachings of Muhammad (peace be upon him), even though Muhammad himself condemned the self-contradictory Hadith and warned his companions against writing down his personal sayings, out of concern they would be mixed together with the Koran (Quran), exactly as happened. The Hadith in "Islam" is the equivalent of Talmud in Judaism, as it too is the traditions of fathers/elders. Instead of turning to The Law and the Gospel that God gave us, as the Koran (Quran) COMMANDS, and says it was sent to confirm, "Muslims" instead pretend the Old Covenant and New Covenant no longer exist, even though the Koran (Quran) warns that could NEVER happen.

The reason God gave us His PERFECT Law of Liberty, was to protect us from all of this evil, and to set and keep us FREE. Homosexuality is a capital offense under The Law for good reason: when a spirit-Being (Soul) has lost control over the body it lives inside of, and been corrupted to the point that it allows it to engage in such obviously unnatural abominations like homosexuality, the best thing for all involved is to free that spirit-Being from that evil human body, so it can start over.

That sends the correct message to everyone that unnatural behavior, all of which goes AGAINST nature's Creator (God) will NOT be tolerated.

Instead, we've done the exact opposite, and then wonder why the world is now filling up with queers and pedophiles, after opening the proverbial "Pandora's box", by not only legalizing sodomy, but promoting it as an "alternative lifestyle"..

Links between homosexuality and paedophilia:

  • 33% of homosexuals admit to minor/adult sex (having sex with children)
  • NAMBLA (North American Man-Boy Love Association) is an overt, in-your-face homosexual child molestation organization with THOUSANDS of members
  • 33% of all reported child molestations are committed by homosexuals, which make up roughly 1% of the total population. That means that a homosexual is 50 times more likely to be a child molester than a heterosexual.

  • 73% of all male homosexuals have had sex with boys under the age of 19.
Source: Homosexuality and Its Negative Effects on Society


Homosexual Health Care Costs Borne by Society

NEW YORK – The government’s own statistics affirm that LGBT citizens are responsible for an enormously disproportionate share of health care costs, which now will be placed on the backs of healthy citizens under the Affordable Health Care Act, known commonly as Obamacare.
  • over 60% of all HIV/AIDS infections are caused by homosexual acts
  • the published estimated lifetime cost of treating AIDS in 2014: $450,000 each
  • over 60% of all syphilis cases are homosexual
  • 17% of all hospital admissions
Source: Stats Don't Lie: Gay Health Costs Coming Your Way


Understanding the Homosexual Lifestyle
  • One study reports 70% of homosexuals admitting to having sex only one time with over 50% of their partners.
  • One study reports that the average homosexual has between 20 and 106 partners per year . The average heterosexual has 8 partners in a lifetime.
  • Many homosexual sexual encounters occur while drunk, high on drugs, or in an orgy setting.
  • Many homosexuals don’t pay heed to warnings of their lifestyles: “Knowledge of health guidelines was quite high, but this knowledge had no relation to sexual behavior”.

The story of the destruction of Sodom (which was filled with Sodomites) and Gomorrah (which was filled with sexual exhibitionism), is found in The Law (Gen. 19) that God gave us, to serve as a constant reminder that anyone who engages in, promotes or allows such abominable behavior, will burn for it. The Law regarding homosexuality (Lev. 18:22, 20:13) is confirmed in the New Covenant (Rom. 1:27) and again in the Koran/Quran (e.g. Sura 7:80-84).

Because "Islam" is the newest of these three organized religions, the ill effects of such abominable behavior are a more recent development, which will only increase as time goes on, because we do not keep God's Law, found ONLY in the first five books of the Bible, namely:
Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy.
 






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Sadly we find ourselves in an age where knowledge is being removed and it is being replaced with ignorance, which is a sign of the hour. In multiple places today you will find gay imams, gay Islamic speakers, gay Muslim students, ect.
My question is... Can you represent a religion when you choose a lifestyle in direct contradiction with it?

Not a chance!
Anybody who's a GLBT can never be a true muslim or true christian because true muslims and christians don't do perversion..:)
For example half of all catholic priests are peedophiles so if they're true christians I'm Mary Poppins.
Even some atheists are trying to pretend it's 'normal' to be a perv-

 






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Homosexuality whether it be man with man or woman with woman will never be acceptable in Islam.

"Do you indeed approach men with desire instead of women? Rather, you are a people behaving ignorantly."
(27:55 Quran)


Anyone familiar with the story of Prophet Lut (Lot) would see pro-homosexuality is not a winnable debate in Islam.

Sadly we find ourselves in an age where knowledge is being removed and it is being replaced with ignorance, which is a sign of the hour. In multiple places today you will find gay imams, gay Islamic speakers, gay Muslim students, ect.

My question is... Can you represent a religion when you choose a lifestyle in direct contradiction with it?
I am surprised to hear there are openly homosexual imams!

Is that just a Western thing?

Surely theMuslims in say, Malaysia or Saudi Arabia would not tolerate that.
 






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Not a chance!
Anybody who's a GLBT can never be a true muslim or true christian because true muslims and christians don't do perversion..:)
For example half of all catholic priests are peedophiles so if they're true christians I'm Mary Poppins.
Even atheists are trying to pretend it's 'normal' to be a perv-

Agreed.

Our Pastor will not allow homosexuals into our church.

According to Romans 1, they are reprobates, and filled with “all unrighteousness”.

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One of my best friends was gay. Wonderful man. I loved him to death. Those of you that think there's something sinful or evil about my friend can go fuck themselves.

"Forgive them for they know not what they do."
 






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I feel the shift is more towards the youth, to encoruage people to tolerate it. That's how it starts. Media is pumping the propoganda, using LGBT individuals who are from Muslim backgrounds most of which are not even practicising to push the narrative.

I know it's also one of the signs of the end times, so we acknowledge that it's happening as our Ummah (community) crumbles.

We make a big deal about the rainbow crew but forget that hetero pre-martial relationships, cheating, affairs etc. are rampant, With such promiscuity that happens in our community unchecked, it's only normal for such behaviour to develop.

On another note, Muslims are becoming more understanding of such desires but they don't agree on acting upon them. Just like how we don't agree with pre-marital relations.
 






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Our Pastor will not allow homosexuals into our church.
According to Romans 1, they are reprobates, and filled with “all unrighteousness”.

Good for your pastor..:)
By contrast the twerps who ran a church near me allowed a convicted peedo to join the church but never warned the congregation of his past.
Guess what? Yup, he started abusing some of the kids there after earning their parents trust, you couldn't make it up!

 






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Pew Research

Publics in Africa and in predominantly Muslim countries remain among the least accepting of homosexuality. In sub-Saharan Africa, at least nine-in-ten in Nigeria (98%), Senegal (96%), Ghana (96%), Uganda (96%) and Kenya (90%) believe homosexuality should not be accepted by society. Even in South Africa where, unlike in many other African countries, homosexual acts are legal and discrimination based on sexual orientation is unconstitutional, 61% say homosexuality should not be accepted by society, while just 32% say it should be accepted.

Overwhelming majorities in the predominantly Muslim countries surveyed also say homosexuality should be rejected, including 97% in Jordan, 95% in Egypt, 94% in Tunisia, 93% in the Palestinian territories, 93% in Indonesia, 87% in Pakistan, 86% in Malaysia, 80% in Lebanon and 78% in Turkey.

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We make a big deal about the rainbow crew but forget that hetero pre-martial relationships, cheating, affairs etc. are rampant, With such promiscuity that happens in our community unchecked,
Agreed

@Alanantic
homosexual relationships are an abomination, it doesn't mean that your friend is evil. I have lgbt colleagues and myself I thought I was gay. The propaganda toward children is just too much and thankfully people understand it is wrong to crush young mind with perv stuff.
 






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Thanks Claire for bringing up this topic.

We have been blessed to have warnings from many good people from other paths who have come to our mosques to warn us about how we are being targeted in many western countries by these communities.

SCHOOL TEACHER EXPOSES HOW THEY ARE TARGETING MUSLIM CHILDREN

Few Muslims are cognizant about the fact that the education system largely indoctrinates towards secular unIslamic values.
I remember this quote from a homeschooling website," When you send your children to Caesar's schools do not be surprised when they come back as little Romans." I would urge Muslims to primarily home-school their children and if they can not at least send them to Muslims schools.

There are Muslim activists that are addressing these concerns such as the ones below:

Politically Incorrect about LGBT w/ Daniel Haqiqatjou [Pt. 4]
Daniel's Blog: https://muslimskeptic.com (He has articles specific to that topic as well).

Western Muslims need to do more work and outreach in their communities.
Some Muslims are definitely going soft and I think it is because many of their 'leadership' have gone on marches with radical leftists such as the ones that populate the Women's marches in the US, where they sacrifice Islamic values to fit in. (largely it is because it is these groups that march against the wars).
It would have been more prudent for them to join with groups that are anti-war and socially conservative instead.
As a community we are just coming to understand the forces we are up against in many western nations and globally.
We also have to face the internal enemies that are selling out and even deliberately infiltrating the community to bring forth these agendas
The only silver lining is that I am confident this will never become the norm in Muslim majority countries, despite the efforts of some NGOs that have also been sent there. :(
Thank you for posting that.

I agree completely with your sentiments, especially with homeschooling.

Public school has become breeding grounds for propaganda. There was a time when we actually learned valuable lessons in school, like math, science, language, etc…not anymore.

it has become pure indoctrination of the worst filth, and communist agendas. We are surely close to the end; I don’t know how much worse we can possibly get before God’s Wrath awakens.
 






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it has become pure indoctrination of the worst filth,
Totally agree there is an agenda to promote immorality!
By the way, just in case people do not know that act is also forbidden between a man and his wife in Islam.
It is interesting to see the lengths they are going to to make immorality acceptable whether it is per-marital sex, or sex outside of marriage etc. through the media mind control mechanism ( I once saw a commercial of a lady bidding her husband goodbye as he is off to work and then jumping in her car to have illicit sex, ....... commercial was for a high end car.....)

People do not realize that their body is not theirs it is the Creator's. He decides the rules we do not we are the submitters (which is the meaning of Muslims).
It is on loan and we will be answerable for misuse and abuse in the Day of Judgement.
I hope and pray that many wake up and see the reality of existence and act accordingly in this short test called life. Ameen!

"O you who have believed, do not follow the footsteps of Satan. And whoever follows the footsteps of Satan - indeed, he enjoins immorality and wrongdoing. And if not for the favor of Allah upon you and His mercy, not one of you would have been pure, ever, but Allah purifies whom He wills, and Allah is Hearing and Knowing." Holy Quran 24:21
 






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Some religions such as Islam and Catholicism believe women should be quiet and know their place-




But all normal Christians don't believe that for a moment, heck there are even female clergy nowadays like these Church of England women..:)

 






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Some religions such as Islam and Catholicism believe women should be quiet..
I think its in Timothy that Jesus forbids a woman to speak or to assume authority over a man.

Idk why you feel the need to make these divisive posts Tidal... I'm sure you don't know the first university was founded by a Muslim woman, Fatima AL Firhi. Glasses for cerebral blindness were invented by the Muslimah Mariam Al-Otaibi.Organic fruit syrup created by, you guessed it. A Muslim woman by the name of Nadia Khan.

I can write pages on the contributions to society from Muslim woman, but look who I"m talking to.

Lets look at the fact that Islam is the fastest growing faith on the planet and the woman converts vastly outnumber the men. Why is this? Are millions giving into enslavement, or do they know something you don't?
 






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I think its in Timothy that Jesus forbids a woman to speak or to assume authority over a man..

I can write pages on the contributions to society from Muslim woman, but look who I"m talking to..
Lets look at the fact that Islam is the fastest growing faith on the planet and the woman converts vastly outnumber the men. Why is this? Are millions giving into enslavement, or do they know something you don't?..

1- Nope, Jesus never said women can't speak or have authority, you'd better pay more attention to your sunday school teacher..:)

2- Paul paid glowing tributes to women in the early Christian churches -
"I commend to you our sister Phoebe, a servant of the church in Cenchrea..she has been a great help to many people, including me..
Greet Priscilla , my fellow worker in Christ Jesus, she risked her life for me.
Greet Mary, who worked very hard for you..
Greet Tryphena and Tryphosa and Persis, those women who work hard in the Lord.
Greet Rufus, chosen in the Lord, and his mother, who has been a mother to me, too.

Greet Julia.." (Romans ch 16)

If muslim women are happy to go around in them burka things and be bossed about by men it's none of my business.
PS- there are youtube vids of muslim adulteresses being stoned to death.
I think I like Jesus's approach better, he went around rescuing naughty women from fundy jewish mobs..:)

 






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I have a sincere question for Muslims, because although I am a Christian, I respect the zeal of the Muslims.

I have noticed recently, unfortunately, that some Muslims (self-proclaimed) are becoming more “accepting” of the homosexuals.

WHY?!??

Is there a shift happening in the Muslim community?

Unfortunately, this has already occurred in mainstream Christianity...even though God has NOT changed, many Christians have already compromised the truth and are pushing the lie that God is not disgusted with homosexual behavior.

It is disgrace, and shows the cowardice & lack of faith of so-called “Christians” who are too afraid to stand up for the TRUTH.

But Muslims...this is one thing we agree with you on. We BOTH KNOW homosexuality is unnatural and completely UNACCEPTABLE in the eyes of God.

What is going on?

Why are more & more Muslims becoming soft on homosexuality?

Once they get their foot in the door, they will be in your mosques...and they won’t be there to worship, they will be there to get to your children.

Please beware, do not bend on your beliefs, because once you do, you can never get it back.

It has infested Christian churches because preachers got scared of their threats.

Muslims are the LAST ones standing against homosexuality. If you give in, they will take over completely.
Ever since these happened...




These are worldwide famous Islamic scholars, may they be forgiven
 






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One of my best friends was gay. Wonderful man. I loved him to death. Those of you that think there's something sinful or evil about my friend can go fuck themselves.

"Forgive them for they know not what they do."
God Himself refers to the unnatural perversion of homosexuality and sodomy as an abomination, which is why it's a capital offense under The Law. There's nothing "gay" (happy) about it. We've also been warned for thousands of years that those who engage in such abominable behaviour will find themselves in The Fire on the Last Day.

So IF you actually loved him, you would have encouraged him to repent of his sinful, evil behaviour, to save him (the real spiritual Being that was inside of the wretched, out-of-control human body) the penalty of The Fire, just as I am reminding YOU that same penalty awaits YOU should you choose to continue defending the commission of capital crimes.

In its entirety and in context, the verse you cited and its passage, so that people can hopefully understand the difference between forgiveness and tolerating evil (the latter of which you seem to be advocating):

Luke 23:33-35
23:33 And when they were come to the place, which is called Calvary, there they crucified him, and the malefactors, one on the right hand, and the other on the left.
23:34 Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do (they are insane). And they parted his raiment, and cast lots.
23:35 And the people stood beholding. And the rulers also with them derided [him], saying, He saved others; let him save himself, if he be Christ, the Chosen of God.

We will all be judged according to our works by Christ on Judgment Day (John 5:22, Rev. 20:12-15), whether they be good or evil.

Time to wake up and learn The Way home or face The Fire.
 






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