Migrant Caravan is it a staged event? 3860KM from border of Guatemala

[UnderAlienControl]

@UnderAlienControl do you think anyone takes a look at all the links you provide daily? Just wondering.

If you woulda took 2 seconds to check the front end of the board like I just did, you'd see that this thread has 12, 631 views so far. So somebody is looking at it. As for do I care? Not really. This is a repository of info that everyone can freely study so that they can see just exactly how the "Democratic" communists took over this country by bringing in all of the illegal voters. Personally, I don't care who sees it or not, as I don't come here seeking approval or some kind of dopamine hit from getting likes etc. I'm about the LOGOS. In other words, it's getting real tiring to hear that it's raining, when in reality they are just pissing down your back. That's not logos, it's propaganda. Like I've said before, a whole lot of grift and graft associated with this whole thing, none of which benefits Americans.
And some of it is just downright nasty business. Rough trade. And do keep in mind that that guy from Kenya took out 12 grandmas before they caught him. So apparently, along with the regular criminals who just pull guns on the cops, we are letting serial killers be imported also.

Spoiler: Rough Trade

Texas Medical Professional: Migrants Quarantined with UNKNOWN Disease,10-Year Old Girl Found With 20 Types of Semen In Her
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/texas-medical-professional-migrants-quarantined-with-unknown-disease-10-year-old-girl-found-with-20-types-of-semen-in-her/

 

[Lisa]

If you woulda took 2 seconds to check the front end of the board like I just did, you'd see that this thread has 12, 631 views so far. So somebody is looking at it. As for do I care? Not really. This is a repository of info that everyone can freely study so that they can see just exactly how the "Democratic" communists took over this country by bringing in all of the illegal voters. Personally, I don't care who sees it or not, as I don't come here seeking approval or some kind of dopamine hit from getting likes etc. I'm about the LOGOS. In other words, it's getting real tiring to hear that it's raining, when in reality they are just pissing down your back. That's not logos, it's propaganda. Like I've aid before, a whole lot of grift and graft associated with this whole thing, none of which benefits Americans.
And some of it is just downright nasty business. Rough trade.

Spoiler: Rough Trade

Texas Medical Professional: Migrants Quarantined with UNKNOWN Disease,10-Year Old Girl Found With 20 Types of Semen In Her
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/texas-medical-professional-migrants-quarantined-with-unknown-disease-10-year-old-girl-found-with-20-types-of-semen-in-her/

Is that all you do all day is look for stuff to post then?

 

[UnderAlienControl]

Is that all you do all day is look for stuff to post then?

No, Lisa. During my free time I read the news voraciously and then post what I've read if it's interesting or counters the "narrative." But I don't have to explain myself to you. If you have no rebuttal or anything to contribute, then here's some advice: if you don't like it then just keep walkin' and don't come into the thread. Maybe that would be better for YOUR peace of mind. After all, it is called
VIGILANT Citizen
Have a nice day.

 

[Lisa]

No, Lisa. I read the news voraciously and then post what I've read if it's interesting or counters the "narrative." But I don't have to explain myself to you. If you have no rebuttal or anything to contribute, then here's some advice: if you don't like it then just keep walkin' and don't come into the thread. Maybe that would be better for YOUR peace of mind. Have a nice day.

Thank you for explaining yourself, I know you didn’t have to, I was just curious because it’s obviously a lot of work and I don’t know that everyone here is reading every piece you post. But now I understand a little more of why you do it.

 

[UnderAlienControl]

Thank you for explaining yourself, I know you didn’t have to, I was just curious because it’s obviously a lot of work and I don’t know that everyone here is reading every piece you post. But now I understand a little more of why you do it.

Well, I'm not trying to harsh on you, but here at Vigilant Citizen I thought our purpose wasn't all flowers and teddy bears, but rather exposing the seamy underbelly of the beast that everyone here should know is lurking and expanding it's reach and power. This is just more of that beast system encroaching on the lives of regular people who never asked for any of it. I'm pretty sure that no one voted for uncontrolled immigration, censoring of alternative voices (or: dissidents who ain't kissin' it,) banks dropping people, payment services dropping people, social media dropping people, importing people from the ebola capital of the world, 70% of migrants on welfare, criminal, actual criminals now, running roughshod over the country and on and on and on. This is all lawlessness. That is it's true nature. Everything else is incidental. So I'm going to say this again one more time, just so everyone knows how people are getting rick-rolled into this quagmire of millionaire and billionaire capitalist politicians attempting to put everyone else into some kinda Marxist stranglehold:

Ideological subversion: when soulless politicians fall in with international grifters and unelected commisions and NGO's to convince you that borders don't matter and grandpa and all your other relatives died for nothing in wars that started because someone crossed someone else's border.

 

[DavidSon]

... So I'm going to say this again one more time, just so everyone knows how people are getting rick-rolled into this quagmire of millionaire and billionaire capitalist politicians attempting to put everyone else into some kinda Marxist stranglehold:

Ideological subversion: when soulless politicians fall in with international grifters and unelected commisions and NGO's to convince you that borders don't matter and grandpa and all your other relatives died for nothing in wars that started because someone crossed someone else's border.

I think you might be spending a little too much time over at Breitbart.

I'm still confused at who you're blaming. Mostly you mention capitalist cheerleaders, business owners, government policies, the ultra wealthy (conservative and liberals). But what does this have to do with Marxism (public ownership)? Socialism is just a term that describes our universally acknowledged responsibility as global citizens. The immigration/refugee situation is nothing but a byproduct of exploitation and investment capitalism.

Also, do you seriously trust this strongly in 'Merica? A bunch of wig wearing, slave owning, free-masonic, white supremacists are not my fathers. This is the melting pot all right- a pot of greed, lucre, and self-destruction. Built out of pine 2x4's and drywall, the US was never built to last. It's one big capitalist experiment the real blue-bloods will let burn to the ground. I guess we may have different allegiances; mine is to world citizenship.

UAC I think you've posted these budget graphs before, but any thoughts related to immigration? What stands out to me (beside the nauseating dominance of defense spending) is that the supposed drain from immigrants from each of these departments adds up to what, a few% in total allocation? There was a link about how much the US gives to Central and S.America... but we give 6 times that to Israel!

There's so much out of whack with our economic system and I think immigrants are basically caught in the crossfire. Every nation has policies they choose are best but I can only hope we keep some compassion for those who are suffering.

 

[Colonel Valerio]

I think you might be spending a little too much time over at Breitbart.

I'm still confused at who you're blaming. Mostly you mention capitalist cheerleaders, business owners, government policies, the ultra wealthy (conservative and liberals). But what does this have to do with Marxism (public ownership)? Socialism is just a term that describes our universally acknowledged responsibility as global citizens. The immigration/refugee situation is nothing but a byproduct of exploitation and investment capitalism.

Also, do you seriously trust this strongly in 'Merica? A bunch of wig wearing, slave owning, free-masonic, white supremacists are not my fathers. This is the melting pot all right- a pot of greed, lucre, and self-destruction. Built out of pine 2x4's and drywall, the US was never built to last. It's one big capitalist experiment the real blue-bloods will let burn to the ground. I guess we may have different allegiances; mine is to world citizenship.

UAC I think you've posted these budget graphs before, but any thoughts related to immigration? What stands out to me (beside the nauseating dominance of defense spending) is that the supposed drain from immigrants from each of these departments adds up to what, a few% in total allocation? There was a link about how much the US gives to Central and S.America... but we give 6 times that to Israel!

There's so much out of whack with our economic system and I think immigrants are basically caught in the crossfire. Every nation has policies they choose are best but I can only hope we keep some compassion for those who are suffering.

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2019/06/honduras-coup-manuel-zelaya-juan-orlando-hernandez

"The post-coup regime pioneered dramatic new modes of militarized neoliberal extraction, from megaprojects and monocultures to charter cities. Rising violence from organized crime — in which the regime is deeply implicated — together with state repression against dissidents have propelled an exodus of refugees, who traveled together in a series of high-profile ​

caravans​

through Mexico to seek asylum at the US border."​

 

[UnderAlienControl]

If you scan the threads I've already posted, there are too many examples of all the bad things man, bad things and the scamming that is going on with this whole thing. And I'm just not willing to overlook that, because it's lawlessness. And that starts getting too close to "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law." And that's Crowley country. Maybe the best scam they ever pulled was telling people that money trickles down, when really money rushes up riding a geyser. While neglecting to inform of the reality that it's crime what trickles down. So that's where the money is at. And it's also an insult that these grifts, grafts, and scams aren't better hidden, that it's so easily called out, that you really aren't even getting scammed but rather mugged. In broad daylight.

I don't spend any time at Breitbart. I use an aggregater. If they have a relevent viewpoint, it goes in with the rest. It's like Lara Logan, formerly of CBS news and 60 Minutes stated: "If you aren't going to Breitbart and similiar, you aren't getting the real news." They (along with others) are covering more than just the same angle that every MSM outfit is pushing. Every one! That's when you know the fix is in. Because these MSM's are owned by billionaires so that's really who's pushing this. The reason why the blame can be spread is because, as I explained, when TPTB want to pull something they will all get on the same page. Then you will see some massive enterprise take off. They broadcast Kali to everyone to tell them what was coming, and voila, chaos everywhere. As promised. I mean, bruh, one of the major tenants of this website is decoding and understanding their symbology and intentions. It's like the backbone, really.

“When the human race learns to read the language of symbolism, a great veil will fall from the eyes of men. They shall then know truth and, more than that, they shall realize that from the beginning truth has been in the world unrecognized, save by a small but gradually increasing number appointed by the Lords of the Dawn as ministers to the needs of human creatures struggling to regain their consciousness of divinity.” ― Manly P. Hall

And here's a tangent about conspiracy, which I really haven't even dragged out into the daylight a lot yet. When you read certain old documents that are purportedly "fake" about how the future is planned to go, and then that exact future starts unfolding, then you can't call it 'conspiracy theory." You have to call it a prophecy. Because whoever "faked" those documents is apparently a gotdamn seer. That is all.

The problem isn't so much foreign aid (which I think Trump cut off) so much as it is the remittances. They hit 500 BILLION according to the World Bank. 500 billion leaves the country and America the pinata just takes another whack. None of that went into our economy. Untaxed cash sent out to other countries. How is that good for America? No wonder the "real" economy is nothing more than a service and gig economy. Smoke and mirrors. No taxes getting paid to support the country that all of this money is made in and sent out of? Somebody is getting sh*tted here. That would be the US taxpayer and the natives not hired for those jobs that generated all of that money.. Picking up the tab for crooked employers and crooked politicians.

First they export most of the manufacturing (hence "The Rust Belt",) then they import labor to do the domestic jobs. It's a one-two punch. If you can't see how this benefits the fatcats, you need to catch up to the game. WHEN THE COUNTRY IS FLOODED WITH LABOR, THEN THE BALANCE OF POWER SHIFTS TO THE EMPLOYER NOT THE WORKER. Now they don't have to battle for the workers, the workers have to battle for the jobs. And everyone wonders why the minimum wage hasn't increased much at all. Why bother when wages have no reason to go up. Plenty of people to work off the books. And just wait til the robots take jobs.

The federal minimum wage was last raised on July 24, 2009, when it rose from $6.55 to $7.25 per hour, the last step of a three-step increase approved by Congress in 2007. Before 2007, the minimum wage had been stuck at $5.15 per hour for 10 years.

And that $7.25 in 2009 is now only worth $6.19 today. And this is pre-tax. So you're really working for about $4.50 after taxes.

And while Flint still doesn't have clean water, 30 million Americans have NO healthcare, 37,000 homeless veterans, and: According to the Los Angeles Homeless Services Authority, in 2019, approximately 50,000 to 60,000 persons may be found homeless on any given night in Los Angeles County, more than 44,000 of them on the streets. A 60 straight block homeless city. That's just one city. Then there's San Francisco. What about Portland? What about Seattle? Pretty much the same. (544,000 homeless across the country.) So apparently, these places inviting more people in have no idea how to manage the population that they already have. Sure, that's logical. Maybe it has something to do with cause and effect. A shanty house sells for $1 million out there now. You are watching a feudal monarchy serfdom being built right in front of your eyes. They wish to spread that everywhere. I don't wish to endure it. Call me old fashioned.

AMERICA IS UNDERGOING A CIVILIZATIONAL COLLAPSE AND CALIFORNIA IS LEADING THE WAY.

Every Dem Says Illegal Immigrants Should Get Health Insurance
https://dailycaller.com/2019/06/27/democratic-debate-health-insurance-illegal/

Los Angeles County seeks action from city on toilets, rats and trash to combat homeless crisis
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/06/08/homeless-crisis-los-angeles-county-seeks-help-toilets-rats-trash/1390562001/

You know who's not worried about it? Putin. His job is much easier. It's seriously like he's telling them they need to shape up. Like, "It would be a shame to have to take advantage of your disenfranchised non-cohesive nations in any future conflict, would it not?" And more to the point, he knows who's behind it, he knows they are succeeding and he knows he has to watch his own back with them. Especially now. With his country ringed by NATO.

He doesn't have to really lift a finger against the west. All he has to do is just sit back and watch it implode. THEN they (and allies) might just make a move, who knows? Don't think they can't smell blood in the water...

‘Liberal idea’ failed the West, elites forgot about people: Putin in interview
https://www.rt.com/news/462846-putin-interview-ft-g20/

Putin attacks Western views on gay rights and multiculturalism and says immigrants are free to 'kill, plunder and r*pe with impunity because their rights are protected' ahead of G20 meeting with May
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7190613/Liberalisms-day-boasts-Putin.html

What is it in of itself, what is it's true nature? Humanitarian? No. That is incidental. It's true nature is to Balkanize the West. Everything else is incidental. Just a means to that end. While the whales are spending dough on the op, the sharks are making dough off of the op. It's a feeding frenzy. Whole lotta lawlessness. Whole lot of crime. So buckle your chinstraps. Things are more than likely gonna get bumpy.

And the Kenyan who killed 12 elderly in Dallas? Now his body count has gone up to 18. Why? Someone failed the public.
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/courts/2019/06/26/6-new-alleged-victims-dallas-senior-living-serial-murder-suspect-named-suit-bringing-total-18

 

[justjess]

The ssi for immigrants you mentioned is only available to LEGAL immigrants after paying into the system a certain amount of time - with a few exceptions for certain types of refugees and othe groups like people who worked as Iraqi translators with our military.

The web address at the bottom doesn’t work btw. I did look it up on the ssa site.

 

[Colonel Valerio]

Here's a thought, grant amnesty to the undocumented forcing employers to pay them a fair wage, raise the minimum to at least $15 with inflation adjustments and universal rent controls, repeal all right-to-work laws and develop a pro-union approach.

The decline in the conditions for working Americans is directly related to loss of Union power, the post-war assault on the New Deal protections and accelerated with Reaganomics which never stopped and now we're here.

The homeless problem is that local governments are basically an extension of land development and luxury apartments being built while regular apartments are scare and being battled over so the parasitic landlords can charge you $1200 for a 1B in the worst part of Denver.

I travel all over the US, I see the decay, it's everywhere it's not just "librul" cities either, its farm towns with a 100 people and everything in between. This is a dying empire and to think about what could have been done with that money wasted maintaining it is devastating.

 

[Colonel Valerio]

Spoiler: Rough Trade

Texas Medical Professional: Migrants Quarantined with UNKNOWN Disease,10-Year Old Girl Found With 20 Types of Semen In Her
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/texas-medical-professional-migrants-quarantined-with-unknown-disease-10-year-old-girl-found-with-20-types-of-semen-in-her/

Ah yes, Big League Politics. What a great article, that anonymous "medical professional" and the citizen "border watcher" really nailed it.

 

[Lurker]

grant amnesty to the undocumented

Been done before and then the border wasn't addressed. I'm not saying it must be a wall. A wall strong enough to keep people out is strong enough to keep me in. Still, something needs to be done.

raise the minimum to at least $15

Abolish minimum wage laws. Pay people what they are worth.

repeal all right-to-work laws and develop a pro-union approach.

Keep right-to-work. Unions have long outlived their usefulness.

universal rent controls

Yes, housing must be addressed. Tuition as well.

I know we are not going to agree. Just throwing my 2 cents out there.

 

[Lurker]

Ah yes, Big League Politics. What a great article, that anonymous "medical professional" and the citizen "border watcher" really nailed it.

Post padding.

 

[Colonel Valerio]

Been done before and then the border wasn't addressed. I'm not saying it must be a wall. A wall strong enough to keep people out is strong enough to keep me in. Still, something needs to be done.

Abolish minimum wage laws. Pay people what they are worth.

Keep right-to-work. Unions have long outlived their usefulness.

Yes, housing must be addressed. Tuition as well.

I know we are not going to agree. Just throwing my 2 cents out there.

1. Amnesty is the quickest way to level the employment playing field. Make them citizens and get them on the books, their employers will be forced to pay them as any other Americans. As far as the border invest in points of entry Ellis Island style, get them processed quickly, and humanely. The deeper issue of immigration comes in part due to imperialism in Latin America ( Honduras especially). So yeah stop that.

2. If you’re in the market you pay a living wage or you have no business being in it.

3. Union decline lowers working standards for everyone.
https://www.epi.org/news/union-membership-declines-inequality-rises/

It’s a huge contributor to the state we are in.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/497954/

 

[justjess]

There’s people on earth not worth earning enough for a hovel and some food?? News to me...

 

[Lurker]

There’s people on earth not worth earning enough for a hovel and some food?? News to me...

No, the job they perform is not worth the wage. Should someone get $15/hr just for showing up?

 

[justjess]

No, the job they perform is not worth the wage. Should someone get $15/hr just for showing up?

The minimum wage used to be a living wage man. So at some point in time the prevailing opinion on that question was yes. No one has a job that requires them to just show up. Minimum wage jobs are typically pretty physically demanding.

 

[Lurker]

The minimum wage used to be a living wage man. So at some point in time the prevailing opinion on that question was yes. No one has a job that requires them to just show up. Minimum wage jobs are typically pretty physically demanding.

The last time wages kept up with inflation was before minimum wage. I never realized how physically demanding it was to screw up a fast food order.

 

[Colonel Valerio]

The last time wages kept up with inflation was before minimum wage. I never realized how physically demanding it was to screw up a fast food order.

Have you ever actually worked behind a fryer for 8 hours straight dealing with numerous rushes that demands dozens of orders at once?

 

[Vixy]

I talked to a syrian guy today. He told me he was a doctor down there and that he made good money and had a agood life when they placed ISIS in those countries. They didnt have any terrorists, its the elite behind it, then they bomed his country to pieces and UN came and got him and recommended hin to go to Sweden, so he did. Here he works as a storage employee, or like he said "I'm used as a donkey when I'm actually a doctor". He feels badly and misses his home and so does most other refugees. They dont wana be here and wanna go home and we are feeling badly by it aswell and want them gone.

This is breaking both races and placing us gainst each other while the elite gets what they want.