Max Blumenthal/Grayzone Exposed

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it's also hilarious you call me some sort of stooge for the Democrats, when I am pretty much agreeing with guys like Max Blumenthal, Chris Hedges, and Jimmy Dore on this current Ukraine war, and calling out the hypocrisy of those pushing the "Putin BAD" narrative.

yeah real Democrat operative there. LOL.

Fucking hilarious. Yet you get all angry for shit getting exposed that makes you uncomfortable for some weird reason.

You should learn to just call things as they are, regardless of what anybody is saying. Seems like you are stuck in the fake paradigm they create for us and are afraid to step outside the box.
How am I angry? I edited my reply to tone it down and express the care I have for the truth. I also don't get why you keep screaming about Tucker when I watch him less than you do. I'm explaining why no one (or extremely few) care about these obscure theories. I can't even find their source as literally I'd never heard these theories until you, the Colon (lol) and Tempest posted them. Blumenthal wrote a piece on Ross's book which sounds the same so I'd have to guess that's the source. Since I don't believe Russian influence is greater than any of the other many forces in this world, my mind works toward the reality that the picture you're pushing is-

1) From a bad mushroom trip
2) Invented by Russia themselves
3)Invented by establishment/military Democrats
4)Invented by far left Socialist/Communists

Either way you'd have to agree this is some extremely fringey, "out there" shit that no one but yourself believes.

We agree on the Ukraine issue but let's be honest almost the entire scene- left, right, and independent got that story right. I'm just learning how much of the top US/Western establishment for the past 30 years has insisted that NATO could never dare move past Germany, that such a move would stir WW3... and then here we are. Only an idiot like Ocacio Cortez would be cheering on sanctions without a shred of understanding. Ah but let's talk about (irrelevant) former representative Gabbard again who's actually telling it like it is.

You're still toeing the liberal Young Turk line on the supposed terror of white supremacy in the US, right wing fascism, Jan.6th coup, etc. The cowards are pretty mute about Russia but chose to spin on how the Groypers love Putin because he's a right-wing authoritarian. Yeah and the Groypers are white supremacists lol. It's the liberal identity issue, culture war BS as usual that I despise. I just got some names: Kyle Kalinsko, The Vanguard, Ryan Grimm... apparently the same type of liberal democrat propagandists I plan on looking into. After the leak concerning Abagail Thorne I'm convinced Vausch and this same crew of internet created socialist "culture warriors" whose purpose is to sow confusion are CIA/Homeland Security agents. If anyone's a foreign agent it's these sorts.

Again I replied as a friend. A true friend will tell you they think you're bat-shit crazy, not ignore you or blow smoke.
 

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the fact that you dont even know what a fascist is makes me really wonder about your knowledge (or lack there of) in all of these matters. Fascist is specifically a right wing authoritarian who uses ultranationalism to form a mass movement.
Lol. Fascism is the merging of state and corporate power. You really didn't know Hitler and Mussolini were both socialists? That's a problem- these petty labels, that you think the elites represent a right or left wing. I can see where the ignorance stems though, from pushers like these:


But let's cut down some the most talented journalists of our time- cuz Ruszia derp
 

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He also literally tried to start WW3 by assasinating Iran's top general, (something even Dick Cheney was not crazy enough to do), set up the economy to fail by giving tax breaks to billionaires, and literally sparked the flame of a civil war in his own country, not to mention pardoning war criminals and releasing them from jail on his way out. Oh and did you forget that Trump oversaw CRIMSON CONTAGION, the half year long drills to stage the Covid operation, yet you all fixate like drilled Tucker carlson puppies on Klaus Schwab and event 201 which was literally a bunch of university professors reading out scenarios at a table. Did you forget "Operation Warp speed" the guy who created the vaccines.
You're totally nuts. That someone could equate their imagination of Trump to Obama's toppling of governments, police state measures, surveillance, giveaways to the banks... what a delusional liberal nutter.

Tucker Carlson steals material from independent journalists, not the other way around clown.

Event 201 was more significant because of international representation of the top banks, military, and what is called the global bio-security state- that organized and ran the worldwide covid pandemic. If you had the intelligence to actually read a James Corbett or Whitney Webb article instead of pumping fake socialist conspiracy theories you would have known this in April of 2020. These fiends are the deepest of the deep state. University professors lol:

https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/players/

Avril Haines is a Senior Research Scholar at Columbia University; a Senior Fellow at the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory; a member of the National Commission on Military, National, and Public Service; and a principal at WestExec Advisors.

During the last administration, Dr. Haines served as Assistant to the President and Principal Deputy National Security Advisor. She also served as the Deputy Director of the Central Intelligence Agency and Legal Adviser to the National Security Council.

Dr. Haines received her bachelor’s degree in physics from the University of Chicago and a law degree from Georgetown University Law Center. She serves on a number of boards and advisory groups, including the Nuclear Threat Initiative’s Bio Advisory Group, the Board of Trustees for the Vodafone Foundation, and the Refugees International Advisory Council.
 

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Dude you forgot Chris Hedges, Greenwald, and Caitlin Johnstone, major "assets" in your Democrat conspiracy theory lol!

I'm not trying to change your mind as you're clearly heavily invested in some extremist "blue-anon" cult but as probably one of the few people at the forum who regularly checks in on Blumenthal and has some knowledge of the pathetic, viscous infighting among political leftists, I want to offer you an independent view. I might be the only one who'll tell you the truth because I'm positive very few care about these petty concerns.

The language you use to label this large group of media providers is beyond comical given the reality: network, operatives, assets, agents... my goodness like we're talking about literal military intelligence collaborators like Abagail Thorne and the Breadtube scene, or something like the CIA's global drug running networks. To imagine Iverson, and comedian Dore, etc. are part of this grand disinformation plot funded by the Russians... lord man it's surprising you would place this much energy into a bizarre conspiracy theory.

Whether knowing or not your propaganda serves the Democratic establishment of NBC, Adam Schiff, Hillary Clinton, Rachel Maddog, all stooges for their idol Barack Obama. Brainwashed politicos like the eagle preach that Biden and Obama are worlds better than Trump when the reality is they're all fascists. It's a false dichotomy that many intelligent people can see through. Obama was much more of a criminal than Trump but I guess because Obama was friendlier to homosexuals he's worshiped by ignorant pawns.

The divisions in the Democratic party and hysteria, especially over Gabbard, were instigated by support for or opposition to the US intervention in Syria. Those who called out Obama's creation of ISIS and occupation for Israel were vilified as Russian agents. The artificial, exaggerated crisis of "Russian interference" continued through the 2016 election until today. I find it strange to read such rabid allegiance to CIA operations against Cuba, Venezuela, Bolivia, Syria, etc. and the security state's agenda echoed against critics of the Democrats. This week Bernie and "the Squad" pledged their support to Biden and NATO led sanctions while Gabbard's remarks about instigating Russia were totally correct, reiterating what foreign policy experts have said since the early 90's. It makes me wonder what your stakes in all these lies are Tempo- are you a member of the DNC?

Another front within leftist infighting is that of fringe sites like Jacobin and WSW. They hate to see independents or anti-war activists, who realistically do a much better job of representing working class people, increase their popularity. To the insignificant socialist cultists, Blumenthal and Hedges aren't "real socialists". Who gives a fuck? Oh that's right, shallow PC thought police who need everyone to fit in superficial ideological boxes. I bet they don't believe Richard Wolfe is socialist enough either lol.

The reason Iverson, House, etc. are so loved is because they speak truths that resonate beyond party lines. They make common-sense observation that many of us agree with. Hedges is correct: Biden (and their progressive wing) epitomize "Competent Fascism". The people that pretend to speak for the working class are greater frauds and a let-down to blue-collar workers; they deserve to be exposed. During Trump's presidency the distraction of Russia silenced criticism of support for SAE and Israel. You wouldn't know but Blumenthal and Greenwald speak very little about culture-war themes again conservatism. Progressives, corporate socialists, and gen Z keyboard culture warriors like Vausch are obsessed with identity issues of race, sexual orientation, etc. Sorry Blumethal doesn't mention gay sex enough for you but it is what it is. I've said before that the preoccupation with the trans agenda is a cancer to honest political action.

A more relevant conspiracy is: Who is driving identity politics onto the labor movement? Who is fueling the incessant splintering of left/labor organizations? Debating who our favorite US politicians are is a distraction. People addicted to fabricated culture wars between progressives and conservatives are indoctrinated pawns. Facts are truth no matter where they're revealed.
"Dude you forgot Chris Hedges, Greenwald, and Caitlin Johnstone, major "assets" in your Democrat conspiracy theory lol!"
You just attempted to assign a false-narrative to me that was wholly invented in your own imagination. NOWHERE on these boards have I been an advocate for, or oblivious of, Democrats and their shenanigans.

"I'm not trying to change your mind as you're clearly heavily invested in some extremist "blue-anon" cult"
More insulting attempts at false-narratives... you are exposing yourself.

"I might be the only one who'll tell you the truth"
Now you sound like you are pushing your own cult here... the cult of DavidSon?

"The language you use to label this large group of media providers is beyond comical given the reality: network, operatives, assets, agents"
You are ignoring the overwhelming evidence which has been presented of this open networks agenda activity and despite your multiple posts and paragraphs typed on the topic, you have still failed to produce ONE SINGLE instance of inaccuracy from the Blumenthal piece you dismissed for us to all examine here together.

"To imagine Iverson, and comedian Dore, etc. are part of this grand disinformation plot funded by the Russians"
First off, I never said this was a "grand information plot funded by the Russians" and you know it. Im addressing something deeper of which Russian activity is merely a part of... a significant part, but by no means the whole of the sum. Secondly, either you are intentionally wearing blinders or you just havent looked hard enough... you dont see who makes up this network? Jimmy Dore, Graham Elwood, Ron Placone, Katie Halper, Kim Iversen, Convo Couch, etc. etc. all failed, washed up D minus level media personalities (the majority being flopped-out "comedians") who couldnt cut it anywhere else yet are now suddenly elevated to being the "progressive" troubadours of truth telling? You dont see that a bunch of literal failed clowns are now supposed to be the liberal "truth-telling" dream team? You never asked yourself why they are CONTINUOUSLY selling Duopoly agenda items (the jab/Nina Turner/AOC/Bernie Sanders/etc.) right up until the point they are allowed to posture as "going against the grain" as truth tellers? You never asked yourself why they keep pushing these agenda items full force until they feel the coast is clear to "expose" them? They push what they are advised/told to push until the efforts succeed... then they howl away about the very agenda items they just pushed and NEVER direct their listeners into real action... just exploit the sheeples rage in the form of superchats and other financial schemes like their "Peoples Party"... and when its all said and done there they are... attempting to sheepdog their audience right back to the next Duopoly scam and ranting about the Democratic party. Either way, all roads lead back to the duopoly with them.

"Whether knowing or not your propaganda serves the Democratic establishment of NBC, Adam Schiff, Hillary Clinton, Rachel Maddog, all stooges for their idol Barack Obama. Brainwashed politicos like the eagle"
For real man, what are you talking about? Whos "the eagle"? Its obvious you are caped for these compromised personalities, do you just like the way they act or do you actually believe what they are selling?

"The divisions in the Democratic party and hysteria, especially over Gabbard, were instigated by support for or opposition to the US intervention in Syria."
Tulsi Gabbard was an MIC/Deep State candidate whos primary purpose was to splinter the anti-war base and advance the GWOT agenda of her military masters. Her campaign was a sheepdogging operation, just as Sanders was. Her secondary purpose was defaulted into getting Aloha Joe elected once her personal bid for power within the Democratic party went down in flames. Thirdly was to serve the Modi & co. Hindu nationalist agenda and fourth was to support her cult. Thats what she was there for and it doesnt take a super sleuth to see thats EXACTLY what she did.

"It makes me wonder what your stakes in all these lies are Tempo- are you a member of the DNC?"
You still havent produced anything for us to examine from the article, so your claim of "lies" rings hollow... especially when you continue to attempt advancing your own convenient conspiracy theories about me personally via lame insults.

"The reason Iverson, House, etc. are so loved is because they speak truths that resonate beyond party lines."
They are constantly pushing one duopoly party-line or another. Can you show where any of their "independent analysis" has differed? They are not "so-loved"... even with TPTB making sure their social media activities are NEVER seriously hampered, Dore is they only personality of them with any sort of a national footprint, yet we all saw the miserable failure of his Peoples Party scam. Katie Halper couldnt even parlay her 1+Million followers from the "Useful Idiots" podcast with Matt Taibbi into anything more than the 50K subscribers on her youtube channel.

"You wouldn't know but Blumenthal and Greenwald"
Why did Max Blumenthal quit his position at the Lebanese Al-Akbhar news outlet? Because he claimed they were platforming a pro-Assad bias. How do you explain his constant flip-flopping? How do you explain Max Blumenthal benefiting from his LIFELONG connection to the corridors of power... exemplified by his father, Clinton-insider extraordinaire, Sidney Blumenthal? How do you explain Max Blumenthal pushing the disgraced, discredited "Lybian Lie" in support of his father/Hillary Clintons State Department action in that now-failed state?

"Sorry Blumethal doesn't mention gay sex enough for you but it is what it is."
You are a piece of trash. Either produce an item of contention with the article you have been shrieking about or go post your drivel in another thread.
 

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Also would like to point out the chilp-r*pe proponent Desert Shibshib posting this dire warning (lol) to a new site member in another thread: "Quick heads up, there are a few toxic souls that frequent this forum the best way to deal with them is not to play :)"

Yet this corpse flower of the sand dunes keeps showing up in threads of mine, talking trash and liking posts which are antagonistic towards me. This is what people striving to tell the truth have to deal with, and it's lousy... but that aint going to stop us.
 

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Lol. Fascism is the merging of state and corporate power. You really didn't know Hitler and Mussolini were both socialists? That's a problem- these petty labels, that you think the elites represent a right or left wing. I can see where the ignorance stems though, from pushers like these:


But let's cut down some the most talented journalists of our time- cuz Ruszia derp
You only listed a possible component of fascism. Perhaps you should actually familiarize yourself with the definition of the term before attempting to correct others. But either way, Pol Pot was also a socialist... guess who defended him and his Khmer Rouge regime at full volume, even penning books and testifying before congress on their behalf? Gareth Porter. Guess who hired Porter to the Greyzone staff? Max Blumenthal. Just as now with China, Myanmarr and etc. Blumenthal and co. never met a Socialist/Communist/Marxist/etc. torture regime they couldnt go to bat for... especially if it involves killing black/brown people and Muslims.
 

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Hedges is mostly OK, although he does literally work for Russia Today. Johnstone is a fraud who penned articles that "the left need to work with fascists" Just like Jimmy Dore, just like Krystal Ball, just like Tulsi Gabbard, just like Niko House. YOu dont see a common thread here. All Tulsi Gabbard cultists, all Russian apologists, and all in one form or another Trump apologists as well, and all save 99% their criticisms for Democrats. You'd have to be completely stupid to not spot that this is a highly organized political op. Dont even get me started on Greenwald, that guy is the biggest fraud of all who literally cheered on Trump's attempt at a coup and claimed 'who needs democracy" What does this guy do other than promoting Tucker Carlson. Something else that all the above clowns I identified do. So again

1. All tell the left to work with fascists
2. All support Tulsi Gabbard like she is a cult leader
3. All run cover for Russia
4. All cannot bend on their knees enough for Tucker Carlson
5. All spend 99% of their time attacking Democrats
6. All downplay everything Trump did
7. All push the same bizarre conspiracy theories

Are you too dumb or are you just trying to pretend this isn't a highly organized and coordinated psychological op.

All of the shills you are defending ultimately lead their audiences to the MOST WATCHED news man In America. No nothing to see here. Just real "populism" LMFAO.




You mean like how your propaganda serves the Republican establishment of FOX News, Donald Trump, Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity, Rupert Murdoch, Benjamin Netanyahu, Sheldon Adelson, Koch Brothers, Peter Thiel, Robert Mercer. You couldn't possibly be doing the exact same thing you are accusing others of are you ?

Difference is I have no problem finding the truth where ever it leads, while you get all angry and attack when we expose things you dont want to be exposed.


the fact that you dont even know what a fascist is makes me really wonder about your knowledge (or lack there of) in all of these matters. Fascist is specifically a right wing authoritarian who uses ultranationalism to form a mass movement.



they both did different things. Obama's worst crime was Libya and Syria, which the network behind Trump tried to kick start in Syria privately before the Obama administration even contemplated it. Joseph Schmitz, from a family of John Birch Society members, a high up in Blackwater, and a Knight of Malta was one of Trump's foreign policy advisors. Here on him below regarding Syria.

https://qz.com/211603/how-ukrainian-arms-dealing-connects-to-syrias-bloody-civil-war/

About a year ago, according to the Journal’s story, a former US defense department official named Joseph Schmitz approached the leader of the rebel Free Syrian Army. He offered to give them 70,000 assault rifles from Ukraine and 21 million rounds of ammunition, for which an unnamed Saudi prince would foot the bill.

Trump fully supported all of those interventions by the way, before he flip flopped and decieved all the sheep.

He also literally tried to start WW3 by assasinating Iran's top general, (something even Dick Cheney was not crazy enough to do), set up the economy to fail by giving tax breaks to billionaires, and literally sparked the flame of a civil war in his own country, not to mention pardoning war criminals and releasing them from jail on his way out. Oh and did you forget that Trump oversaw CRIMSON CONTAGION, the half year long drills to stage the Covid operation, yet you all fixate like drilled Tucker carlson puppies on Klaus Schwab and event 201 which was literally a bunch of university professors reading out scenarios at a table. Did you forget "Operation Warp speed" the guy who created the vaccines.

Come on man who are you kidding.




Gabbard is a fraud and a serial flip flopper, just like Trump. They say ANYTHING that dupes want to hear, and DUPES take what they say at face value. Gabbard is a total fraud and shill who kissed the ring of Netanyahu in Congress, voted against BDS, called for military action on Iran, and pushes the right wing nonsense about "voter fraud" She is a complete utter fraud and grifter. Its funny you get so defensive about her being called out for what she is.



I actually dont mind Blumenthal and Hedges , they are certainly much better than frauds like Dore, Gabbard, Greenwald, Iversen, House. But Blumenthal literally IS a Russian asset, and another who flipped his positions 180 degrees after meeting with Putin. You cannot take what he says, especially what he says about Russia without a serious grain of salt.

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they are only "loved" by right wingers, because that is what they are. Complete frauds and grifters. Iverson had to shut down her social media because she was caught pushing white supremacist propaganda, and House literally does shows with a right wing shill like Jack Posobiec, WHO IS LITERALLY A MILITARY INTELLIGENCE AGENT. Niko House also admitted he was in military intelligence. Nothing to see though, keep on falling for the bullshit.



Blumenthal is ok but Greenwald is full on right wing culture warrior, I dont know where on earth you have been. Always crying about free speech when some Nazi gets censored, but has nothing to say about the CRT obsessed right wing literally banning history books and classes, or Republicans making it legal to run over protesters. Not a thing from that fraud. Vausch isn't the one obsessed with race, he is commenting on guys like Tucker Carlson, who is obsessed with race. Do the right wingers really think they can blab on and on about race, coded or in the open, and then accuse people who call them out of being "race obsessed" that is highly disingenuous but a trick they alawys pull.


why dont you first answer who is driving white supremacy politics and who has been doing it for hundreds of years ? Figure that out, and maybe you will figure out why America's most popular News host TUCKER CARLSON, is literally spewing white supremacy almost every night, and why all these so called "leftists" just can't get off of Tuckers nuts. Figure out why Trump, (whose whole shtick was white identity politics) was put into power in the first place, and why his fake "populist" movement is still going full steam ahead.

Figure that out, then we can get to the much less important question you asked above. Since that wouldn't even exist without the white supremacy part.
"Difference is I have no problem finding the truth where ever it leads, while you get all angry and attack when we expose things you dont want to be exposed."
Mic drop moment...
 

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You just attempted to assign a false-narrative to me that was wholly invented in your own imagination. NOWHERE on these boards have I been an advocate for, or oblivious of, Democrats and their shenanigans.
With the intention of moving on from the topic I'll try to respond to each section and clarify my stance. Hilary Clinton and the DNC were and are still the primary drivers of Russiagate. My belief is any position that feeds a Russian collusion narrative assists them.

More insulting attempts at false-narratives... you are exposing yourself.
To me that's the best term for unfounded, fringey leftist theories about nazis, fascism etc. Blue-anon.. like Q-anon but a leftist anti-Trump version.

Now you sound like you are pushing your own cult here... the cult of DavidSon?
What? I'm explaining that apparently very few here cares about any of this stuff. Maybe re-read what I'm trying to say? VC's writings are primarily investigations into material related to Project Monarch, occult symbology in popular culture, especially the entertainment industry. Isn't that why we're here? Not to speak for everyone but I'd say the consensus here is politics, fabricated left-right divides are a distraction- an element of the control matrix.

You are ignoring the overwhelming evidence which has been presented of this open networks agenda activity and despite your multiple posts and paragraphs typed on the topic, you have still failed to produce ONE SINGLE instance of inaccuracy from the Blumenthal piece you dismissed for us to all examine here together.
I will read over that article again because you feel it's so important. Other than that I don't believe that such a wide ranging selection of producers are connected in a network. You're list of "collaborators" keeps growing and growing. Can't you consider we're all middle-of-the-road politically?

First off, I never said this was a "grand information plot funded by the Russians" and you know it. Im addressing something deeper of which Russian activity is merely a part of... a significant part, but by no means the whole of the sum. Secondly, either you are intentionally wearing blinders or you just havent looked hard enough... you dont see who makes up this network? Jimmy Dore, Graham Elwood, Ron Placone, Katie Halper, Kim Iversen, Convo Couch, etc. etc. all failed, washed up D minus level media personalities (the majority being flopped-out "comedians") who couldnt cut it anywhere else yet are now suddenly elevated to being the "progressive" troubadours of truth telling? You dont see that a bunch of literal failed clowns are now supposed to be the liberal "truth-telling" dream team? You never asked yourself why they are CONTINUOUSLY selling Duopoly agenda items (the jab/Nina Turner/AOC/Bernie Sanders/etc.) right up until the point they are allowed to posture as "going against the grain" as truth tellers? You never asked yourself why they keep pushing these agenda items full force until they feel the coast is clear to "expose" them? They push what they are advised/told to push until the efforts succeed... then they howl away about the very agenda items they just pushed and NEVER direct their listeners into real action... just exploit the sheeples rage in the form of superchats and other financial schemes like their "Peoples Party"... and when its all said and done there they are... attempting to sheepdog their audience right back to the next Duopoly scam and ranting about the Democratic party. Either way, all roads lead back to the duopoly with them.
Troubadours of truth telling? No one, especially themselves, have ever said they were. We probably agree the group you're referencing aren't close to being truthers as they, like I sense about at @Rufus McKenzie, would never dare tear at the facade of the official 911 storyline or the reality of Jewish power for example. These folks are political commentators who view themselves as leftists (socialists, democrats, social democrats, etc.), simple. You have opinions about their modus operandi that I personally don't pick up on.

For real man, what are you talking about? Whos "the eagle"? Its obvious you are caped for these compromised personalities, do you just like the way they act or do you actually believe what they are selling?
The bird-of-prey himself, Van haha.

Yes I've been highly inspired by many of the personalities you're condemning here, others I've only heard of. Greenwald did a piece on the disaster of covid lockdowns and I've never disagreed with anything he's done. Jimmy and Kim I don't follow but if come across their clips I'm always in agreement. Like 100% of the time, honestly. I've commented that it's beautiful Iverson brings points from alt-media to the mainstream, especially for other females. You know by now I respect Blumenthal, Hedges is superb. Funny I heard Halpern for the first time yesterday, the interview with Hedges.

I'd like to see a full list of who makes up the network you're pointing at. Either we're all deluded, indoctrinated pawns... or different types of people than yourself (that you hate badly).

You don't know me though. The only time I've ever voted was for Bernie in the last primaries, and I'm embarrassed I did. Our corporate 2 party system is a sham. As for info when I'm working I'll listen to everything. Alt-right, new age, NWO conspiracy, Islamic, natural healing, Buddhist, socialist, libertarian, historic... all of it. I will sometimes include financiers, veterans or others I don't normally respect their background as much. In my view everyone has their "field" and I appreciate their ability to produce. I respect those who haven't given me a reason not to.

Why did Max Blumenthal quit his position at the Lebanese Al-Akbhar news outlet? Because he claimed they were platforming a pro-Assad bias. How do you explain his constant flip-flopping? How do you explain Max Blumenthal benefiting from his LIFELONG connection to the corridors of power... exemplified by his father, Clinton-insider extraordinaire, Sidney Blumenthal? How do you explain Max Blumenthal pushing the disgraced, discredited "Lybian Lie" in support of his father/Hillary Clintons State Department action in that now-failed state?
See I don't care about Blumenthal's personal journey. His father being a Beltway insider obviously was a circumstance to his own career in journalism. If what he or Greenwald report can be verified by independent sources it's as valuable as any other in the ocean of perspectives.
The issue of a politcal leftist's background is just not important to me. Instead of personal attacks and other fallacies it would be more productive to debate their work. Maybe with that approach we could have real discussion including others.
 
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How am I angry? I edited my reply to tone it down and express the care I have for the truth. I also don't get why you keep screaming about Tucker when I watch him less than you do. I'm explaining why no one (or extremely few) care about these obscure theories. I can't even find their source as literally I'd never heard these theories until you, the Colon (lol) and Tempest posted them. Blumenthal wrote a piece on Ross's book which sounds the same so I'd have to guess that's the source. Since I don't believe Russian influence is greater than any of the other many forces in this world, my mind works toward the reality that the picture you're pushing is-

1) From a bad mushroom trip
2) Invented by Russia themselves
3)Invented by establishment/military Democrats
4)Invented by far left Socialist/Communists

Either way you'd have to agree this is some extremely fringey, "out there" shit that no one but yourself believes.
LOL so you think because my theory is "obscure" (meaning it isn't being pumped to the masses by the elite controlled fake alt media) that somehow discredits it ? I guess it has to be on Tucker Carlson's most watched news program in America before you believe it LOL. I care about truth, not which controlled operative is pushing a narrative. Like I said I've provided plenty of evidence of so called "leftists" pushing their audience towards Gabbard, Repubican talking points, and ultimately Tucker Carlson, (the most watched news guy in America) You can keep your head in the sand or play stupid all you want. Or you can make an educated guess as to why. Clearly the elites are invested in having as many people flock to Tucker Carlson as possible. Again Why ? Why do the elites want to push conspiracy theories to mainstream Americans ? It all goes back to Trump and his instigation of a civil war.

We agree on the Ukraine issue but let's be honest almost the entire scene- left, right, and independent got that story right. I'm just learning how much of the top US/Western establishment for the past 30 years has insisted that NATO could never dare move past Germany, that such a move would stir WW3... and then here we are. Only an idiot like Ocacio Cortez would be cheering on sanctions without a shred of understanding. Ah but let's talk about (irrelevant) former representative Gabbard again who's actually telling it like it is.
Yeah I think you watched the same Jimmy Dore video I just watched last night. And again , I watch EVERYBODY, (and take them all with a grain of salt). It helps you get a full spectrum picture of whats going on rather than sticking yourself in an echo chamber, like most people on this site do.

No the entire left, right scene has not got this issue right. They are pumping "Putin is Hitler" from CNN to Fox. No context of this conflict what so ever. I dont know what your obsession with AOC is when virtually everybody including Gabbard is supporting sanctions.

You're still toeing the liberal Young Turk line on the supposed terror of white supremacy in the US, right wing fascism, Jan.6th coup, etc. The cowards are pretty mute about Russia but chose to spin on how the Groypers love Putin because he's a right-wing authoritarian. Yeah and the Groypers are white supremacists lol. It's the liberal identity issue, culture war BS as usual that I despise.
TYT are usually crap when it comes to foreign policy, they try to toe the line between "we dont want war, but Putin/Assad BAD" They even played the whole "MADURO BAD" and that was just it for me. Trying to play both sides, with very little context. Whatever you want to say about them when it comes to foreign policy, they are 100% correct when it comes to calling at the white supremacist, "Southern Strategy" agenda of the Republicans, Trump, and propagandists like Tucker Carlson. They are correct 100% that Jan 6 was a soft coup, and your wierd and obsessive hatred of "progressives" has you programmed to just reject what is obviously staring you in the face. The fact that Trump tried to blackmail and bribe officials to overturn the election results, then organized a mob to descend on Congress, while he had plans to stop the certification of the electoral college, and STOOD THE MILITARY DOWN, so that the mob could break into Congress. Keep your head in the sand, you clearly are not interested in anything factual, you are more interested in opposing whatever liberals say, because for some wierd reason you've got it in your head that they can never ever be right about anything.

You despise "culture wars" so much yet you dont ever say anything against those who are really driving the culture war and have been for a hundred years. Those pushing white supremacy. You can't even see that it is a thing, virtually following all of Tucker Carlsons talking points.

I just got some names: Kyle Kalinsko, The Vanguard, Ryan Grimm... apparently the same type of liberal democrat propagandists I plan on looking into. After the leak concerning Abagail Thorne I'm convinced Vausch and this same crew of internet created socialist "culture warriors" whose purpose is to sow confusion are CIA/Homeland Security agents. If anyone's a foreign agent it's these sorts.]
LOL everyone you dont agree with is a CIA plant, but all those you do agree with , who all have a much HIGHER PROFILE and all push their audience to the most watched Newsguy in America are the arbitors of truth. You are so delusional.

Again I replied as a friend. A true friend will tell you they think you're bat-shit crazy, not ignore you or blow smoke.
your "bat shit crazy" accusations have absolutely no basis. Again you do nothing but deny mounds of evidence, say nothing against the points we raise.[/QUOTE]
 
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You're totally nuts. That someone could equate their imagination of Trump to Obama's toppling of governments, police state measures, surveillance, giveaways to the banks... what a delusional liberal nutter.
all you do is throw around petty insults and never deal with evidence and facts. Obama's toppling of governments ? OK So Trump didn't try to topple the Venezuelan government with several assasination attempts, he didn't try to start WW3 by assasinating Iran's top General, he didn't move in US troops to "secure Syrian oil" ? He didn't escalate the war in Yemen, increase drone strikes by like 400%, didn't strike the Syrian army directly with multiple missile strikes.

As for police state measures. Did Obama order police and National Guard to shoot rubber bullets and smoke grenades at peaceful protesters ? Trump literally brought the police state to a place it has never been before, snatching protesters off the streets in unmarked cars, threatening to jail protesters for up to 15 years, influencing Governors to pass laws that make it legal to RUN OVER protesters.

Giveaways to Banks ? Trumps cabinet had more billionaires and bankers than any president in history. Goldman Sachs infested his cabinet.

Dude you sound like a Trump shill, you are desperately trying to refurbish his image.

Tucker Carlson steals material from independent journalists, not the other way around clown.
the material all come from think tanks. Carlson is the main guy. Its all coordinated, and they are all saying a version of the same thing.

Event 201 was more significant because of international representation of the top banks, military, and what is called the global bio-security state- that organized and ran the worldwide covid pandemic. If you had the intelligence to actually read a James Corbett or Whitney Webb article instead of pumping fake socialist conspiracy theories you would have known this in April of 2020. These fiends are the deepest of the deep state. University professors lol:

https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/players/

Avril Haines is a Senior Research Scholar at Columbia University; a Senior Fellow at the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory; a member of the National Commission on Military, National, and Public Service; and a principal at WestExec Advisors.

During the last administration, Dr. Haines served as Assistant to the President and Principal Deputy National Security Advisor. She also served as the Deputy Director of the Central Intelligence Agency and Legal Adviser to the National Security Council.

Dr. Haines received her bachelor’s degree in physics from the University of Chicago and a law degree from Georgetown University Law Center. She serves on a number of boards and advisory groups, including the Nuclear Threat Initiative’s Bio Advisory Group, the Board of Trustees for the Vodafone Foundation, and the Refugees International Advisory Council.

you're joking right ?

Event 201 was a one night table read with a bunch of teachers and nurses, and a few business and health experts. You can watch the entire thing on Youtube. Such a collection of deep state operatives laying out their worldwide plans of domination on livestream and archived on Youtube LOL.

Miss Haines was a FORMER deputy National Security Advisor. So is that supposed to be more important than the CURRENT NSA ?

You are comparing a one night table read to a half year long drill CRIMSON CONTAGION involving the CURRENT Department of Defence, Department of Homeland Security, National Security Agency, Intelligence agencies, CDC etc.

Do you think you can watch those drills on Youtube ? :D

CRIMSON CONTAGION preceded Event 201 by like half a year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimson_Contagion

Get your priorites straight and stop falling for silly distractions via Tucker Carlson.

I think it was even Whitney Webb who put me on to Crimson Contagion, I can't remember for sure. But you would think there would be far more investigation into that rather than Klaus Schwaab and Event 201.
 
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Hilary Clinton and the DNC were and are still the primary drivers of Russiagate. My belief is any position that feeds a Russian collusion narrative assists them.
You expose yourself as such a political hack.

How did "Russiagate" help Clinton ? Did she use it to not concede a loss to Trump ? Oh right it was Trump who didn't want to step down and tried to carry out a coup. But Tucker must have told you it was FBI entrapment, or was it Antifa ?

Why would you not be interested in THE TRUTH, rather than what you feel helps Clinton or not.

So sticking it to Hillary Clinton is more important than the truth ? This is why you, and people like you cannot be taken seriously. Your biases stop you from being objective.
 

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With the intention of moving on from the topic I'll try to respond to each section and clarify my stance. Hilary Clinton and the DNC were and are still the primary drivers of Russiagate. My belief is any position that feeds a Russian collusion narrative assists them.



To me that's the best term for unfounded, fringey leftist theories about nazis, fascism etc. Blue-anon.. like Q-anon but a leftist anti-Trump version.



What? I'm explaining that apparently very few here cares about any of this stuff. Maybe re-read what I'm trying to say? VC's writings are primarily investigations into material related to Project Monarch, occult symbology in popular culture, especially the entertainment industry. Isn't that why we're here? Not to speak for everyone but I'd say the consensus here is politics, fabricated left-right divides are a distraction- an element of the control matrix.



I will read over that article again because you feel it's so important. Other than that I don't believe that such a wide ranging selection of producers are connected in a network. You're list of "collaborators" keeps growing and growing. Can't you consider we're all middle-of-the-road politically?



Troubadours of truth telling? No one, especially themselves, have ever said they were. We probably agree the group you're referencing aren't close to being truthers as they, like I sense about at @Rufus McKenzie, would never dare tear at the facade of the official 911 storyline or the reality of Jewish power for example. These folks are political commentators who view themselves as leftists (socialists, democrats, social democrats, etc.), simple. You have opinions about their modus operandi that I personally don't pick up on.



The bird-of-prey himself, Van haha.

Yes I've been highly inspired by many of the personalities you're condemning here, others I've only heard of. Greenwald did a piece on the disaster of covid lockdowns and I've never disagreed with anything he's done. Jimmy and Kim I don't follow but if come across their clips I'm always in agreement. Like 100% of the time, honestly. I've commented that it's beautiful Iverson brings points from alt-media to the mainstream, especially for other females. You know by now I respect Blumenthal, Hedges is superb. Funny I heard Halpern for the first time yesterday, the interview with Hedges.

I'd like to see a full list of who makes up the network you're pointing at. Either we're all deluded, indoctrinated pawns... or different types of people than yourself (that you hate badly).

You don't know me though. The only time I've ever voted was for Bernie in the last primaries, and I'm embarrassed I did. Our corporate 2 party system is a sham. As for info when I'm working I'll listen to everything. Alt-right, new age, NWO conspiracy, Islamic, natural healing, Buddhist, socialist, libertarian, historic... all of it. I will sometimes include financiers, veterans or others I don't normally respect their background as much. In my view everyone has their "field" and I appreciate their ability to produce. I respect those who haven't given me a reason not to.



See I don't care about Blumenthal's personal journey. His father being a Beltway insider obviously was a circumstance to his own career in journalism. If what he or Greenwald report can be verified by independent sources it's as valuable as any other in the ocean of perspectives.
The issue of a politcal leftist's background is just not important to me. Instead of personal attacks and other fallacies it would be more productive to debate their work. Maybe with that approach we could have real discussion including others.
"Hilary Clinton and the DNC were and are still the primary drivers of Russiagate. My belief is any position that feeds a Russian collusion narrative assists them."
How many times do I have to state my position before my stance on the issue can be clear? Russia has a history of centuries of hardcore, intricate and involved international espionage and intrigue... they aint rookies. And its clear that they compromised both the Clintons and Trump LONG BEFORE the 2016 election cycle ever began. Russiagate was both true and a lie, meaning it had just enough truth to advance the notion among the public while creating both dissension and the illusion of an actual difference between Dems and Reps. Simultaneously, it was intentionally toothless enough to be nothing but political theater.

"To me that's the best term for unfounded, fringey leftist theories about nazis, fascism etc. Blue-anon.. like Q-anon but a leftist anti-Trump version."
So go find someone your definition actually applies to. Stop using that rhetoric as an insult and convenient deflection.

"I will read over that article again because you feel it's so important. Other than that I don't believe that such a wide ranging selection of producers are connected in a network."
Its important because it provided the basis for this thread. If you refuse to address it directly and instead go on rants and insult-laden tangents its difficult to address the heart of the matter. For crying out loud, Niko House calls his platform the Mi Casa Su Casa "network" and all of the people/outlets I have mentioned (and more) openly "network" together so its unclear what you are griping about other than some truth being exposed which you are uncomfortable with.

"Can't you consider we're all middle-of-the-road politically?"
Why in the world would I ease the scrutiny of media personalities who are attempting to pass themselves off as outlets and arbitrators of truth and investigation... ESPECIALLY when they are already VERY clearly compromised? Why in the world I just assume that people presenting themselves as truth-telling alternatives to the MSM are of any particular political slant instead of investigating to prove to myself who they are and what they are about? Why would I just give a blank pass to those trying to influence what remains of the resistance to the duopoly?

"Troubadours of truth telling? No one, especially themselves, have ever said they were."
So Dore and etc. regularly/literally SCREAMING into their mics that they are the ONLY places you can find this special info and the ONLY outlets telling you the truth while trashing their contemporaries outside of this network are somehow... contrary to proclaiming themselves as truth-tellers?

"I've commented that it's beautiful Iverson brings points from alt-media to the mainstream, especially for other females."
We have already exposed quite a bit about "beautiful Iversen" so if you just want to fall for her okey-doke, go right ahead... just dont expect people who can see who she actually is for themselves to line up behind you.

"See I don't care about Blumenthal's personal journey."
So what is the point of your part in this discussion? You want to sport a pair of tie-dye blinders go ahead, but your credibility blacks out along with your vision. Regardless, I didnt post about his "personal journey"... I posted verifiable compromises which he inflicted on himself during his "journalism career". As with most everything else here, you just failed to address them and attempted to change the focus of dialog.
 
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Glenn Greenwald was a lawyer who was famous for defending white supremacists. He endorsed the nativist bircherism of Ron Paul because of the war issue.

He advocated for a leftist alliance with these paleo conservative cranks and it’s been a disaster.

GG was always honest with who he was, some people just didn’t want to listen because he was good on the war issue and about government overreach in surveillance.

Blumenthal and his friend Rania Khalek spent 10 years as a mouth peace for Bashar al-Assad. Spent years denying his war crimes.

The Greyzone crowd are shills for the Russian and Syrian regimes. They are toxic and have been a political disaster that enables people like Trump and Carlson.

Hedges is just a rube.
Some people seem to give a blind-pass to Anya Parampil and Rania Khalek... not realizing thats exactly what they are there for. Females of color who provide cover for these operations via their ethnic and religious backgrounds.
 
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Glenn Greenwald was a lawyer who was famous for defending white supremacists. He endorsed the nativist bircherism of Ron Paul because of the war issue.

He advocated for a leftist alliance with these paleo conservative cranks and it’s been a disaster.
Wow I wasn't even aware of this, but looking at his bio on wikipedia and he defended the National Alliance. Ex Bircher William Luther Pierce's outfit.

The guy has been an operative all along.

Considering that Pierce's buddy Willis Carto used their Liberty Lobby to manipulate the Larouche movement for right wing agendas, it is clear that Greenwald was deep into this red/brown thing going way back. I thought he was just an opportunic grifter, but it appears much deeper and more sinister than that.
 

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I was asked here about a specific "network" breakdown so here is a basic one:

At the top of this sad pyramid is Max Blumenthal. There are reasons this crowd keeps hyping Blumenthal and they mainly stem from him acting as a director for their network. This thread is specifically about him and there is plenty of info/links here for people to peruse. The only person who seems to operate fully independent of him is Danny Haiphong who is a big enough CCP shill that he seems to have his own mini-network (or is at least a rouge gun for hire) to direct, so its not as if they are at odds. They do not appear to be rivals or in any sort of conflict... on the contrary, they appear to be contemporaries of each other, each with their own network and connections.

Top Tier Operatives:
Jimmy Dore - His show by far (hosted by washout comedians) garners the most views/analytic numbers of this network. He (Dore's wife fits into this category as well due to her proximity to Dore himself and her many dubious connection/activities in service of this network) has been exposed here pretty thoroughly but its certainly useful to remain aware of his status regarding these efforts. The JDS represents Max Blumenthal's main outlet to push his propaganda and interact with new suckers looking to get active while his Peoples Party swindle has the wheels falling off of it. Yet it still exists, thanks in large part to...

Nick Brana - For dubious reasons, Brana has been allowed to ascend to the top of this networks hierarchy, not in spite of his ineptitude and corruption, his advancement has been dependent on his ineptitude and corruption. After 5 years there is no viable party structure, not even the basics... this con job essentially exists online and functions to raise resources and profiles for the grifters involved while also disenfranchising those fed up/sheepdogging others back into the duopoly.

Mid Tier Operatives:
Kim Iversen - Another failed, d-minus grade "entertainer" who has already been discussed in this thread and what has been presented fits in with this synopsis of their rosters activities. Her youtube and patreon scams werent enough to "pay her bills" but were apparently enough to secure Iversen a hosting slot on the also discussed "The Hill" program.

Niko House - A completely compromised character as has been pointed out in this very thread... he appeared on the scene as an organizer during Bernie "sheepdog" Sanders 2016 Dem primary campaign, swore he was taking the DNC to court over that rigged primary, then proceeded to expose his multitude of alt-right connections as he burned through his "progressive" facade once the coast was clear to do so. His background in military intelligence speaks for itself. Leads his "Mi Casa Su Casa" network which still includes Convo Couch, however the social-climbing Iversen ditched that "network" in favor of angling for bigger opportunities such as her new hosting gig on The Hill.

Convo Couch - The lowest rung of the mid-tier operatives, often charged with pushing the more "cooky conspiratorial" angles of this crowd. Hosted by two failed Hollywood "actors" Craig Jardula and Fiorela Isabela with tech work done by her brother "Johnny Tsunami" (they were desperate to keep being siblings a secret, why?). Johnny and Fiorela have very interesting backgrounds and connections to say the least. As with all of them, total limited hangouts designed to sucker people in with a hint of the truth and exposing the smoke and mirrors of modern politics... then redirect them into the bozoland of this network. Convo Couch has been proven to cover up for, and work with cops and other "authorities" but to my knowledge have not yet been proven to work directly for them. Apparently Jardula and Ron Placone were originally working together and Dore drafted Placone to the "big time" via connection to his show as a guest and writer.

Lower Tier Operatives:

Katie Halper - Yet another failed comedian. Halper parlayed her Dalton High (Donald Barr/Jeff Epstein) pedigree into a hosting gig on the now-defunct Rolling Stone "Useful Idiots" podcast yet couldnt parlay that MSM gig into anything more substantial than her nowheresville youtube channel. How is she able to maintain such a high standard of living with no real job or media presence?

Ron Placone - Failed comedian Placone finally felt enough heat to step down from the Peoples Party insiders position he was installed into (along with the rest of PP leadership). Loyal sheepdoggie for the Sanders campaigns, he swore it was "yellow vest" time if Sanders was denied by cheating via DNC activity. Dont hold your breath for him to lead any street activity lol. Placone keeps puttering along, seemingly content with being third banana to Dore and...

Graham Elwood - Another wash-out comedian and a real creep... each of these actors has their particular angles they attempted to grift on into the maga/q/libertarian crowds with and Elwoods was supposedly keeping the heat turned up on the Epstein issue. Except that he sat on insider info he was given regarding that issue right on up to Les Wexner. Nuff said.

Jackson Hinkle - Initially presented as a Socal pseudo-liberal and young political hopeful, hes "the dude" behind the failed Peoples Party "Force The Vote" rallies which drew about 40 white and wannabe-white people in Birkenstocks to a Whole Foods parking lot in DC. Hes not going to be accepted by the alt-right crowd he is pandering to but has no bridge back to Progressives after he burned his initial facade. So on the one hand, not much shelf-life expected for his career here as it currently stands... on the other, hes the most photogenic slice of for-sale Wonderbread in this loaf so someone is likely to find a use for him down the line.

Richard Medhurst - A narcissistic chameleon who will, in one instance, try to school his audience on the Arab world and its intricacies... then will literally front like he cant speak Arabic when its convenient lol A look into who his parents and connections are pretty clearly indicates why his media output is so compromised. Recently was outed for aggressively grooming underage fans and followers online.

The Vanguard - Presented as a grimier alternative to Hinkle's clean cut image, they occasionally "go off script" and "confront" issues within this network once its directors realize they need to distract the people and get some of the heat off of themselves. They serve as a pressure release valve to keep the veneer inflated, but take the steam out of situations when the rank and file are heated and start calling out the network itself.

Franc Analysis - Basically serves as a fanboy/mascot for this network and operates towards the bottom in terms of hierarchy and influence. Also useful for "confronting" issues within the network and giving the illusion of accountability and difference of opinion between these actors. Part Puerto Rican or something so his mild, vaguely off-white ethnicity also serves as pitiful cover for the overwhelming whiteness and racism in this supposedly "diverse" network.

Slow News Day - Epitome of the "dirtbag left" SND reps for the sloppier, drugged out and vulgarity laced contingent of the network. Often seen with Convo Couch at public events either "documenting" them on film if there is action or if its one of their own events... standing around with the 5 or so people rooked into attending/pretending like they are at a legitimate event. Also in cahoots with whatever police activity Convo Couch is a part of and co-host Glory Jones has direct ties to South Florida sheepdog Jen Perelman.


Think this aint a network? Look at ALL of their recent Ukraine coverage. Look at the lock step dissemination of that propaganda, along with Myanmar, Libya and etc. etc. Look at how they continuously push items and people (the jab, covid "relief" legislation, AOC, Sanders, Turner, Uighur situation in China, Royhinga situation in Burma, the list goes on and on) then when its deemed safe for them to flip (in other words their directors feel the propaganda goal has been achieved or is no longer viable) the script they suddenly become outraged truth tellers regarding these very same issues and people. Its all there for anyone who wants to look with open eyes...
 
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The previously mentioned issues which prompted Kim Iversen to delete and discontinue her social media activities (which have recently been resurrected) were not the first time she was caught engaging in flat out provocative racism and running cover for white nationalists... in fact, one might want to take a careful look at the thumbnail photo "investigative journalist" Iversen chose for one of her racially--charged jargon fests...

Iversen likes to claim she is going on "deep dives" to research the content which she passes off to her viewers as "investigative journalism" so with all of the resources at her disposal, its difficult to find an excuse for why she wouldnt have known exactly what the photo she chose for her video's thumbnail actually encompassed in real life. Its easy to surmise that Iversen figured the image was useful in promoting her alt-right pandering "wheres the real racism" hustle and that it represented heart-of-the-moment aesthetics which are often utilized to muddy the waters...

But for those here who truly wish to explore these matters and expose the truth behind these agenda's, the story behind that thumbnail photo is much darker, more satanic and MK-Ultra connected than most of the public was allowed to become aware of... WARNING! If you are not prepared to have your pre-conceived notions, suspicions and fears challenged/confirmed my advise is dont bother proceeding. The media this author presents is meticulously crafted and exhaustively cited/sourced, so if you come to this site in order to glean partial truths which fit within your comfort zone that you can then attempt to pass off on your social circles in hopes of sounding more "woke" or "based" this aint for you. If you want to discern the truth for yourself, here it is... an ultra "deep-dive" which Iversen (at best) refused to make herself aware of and quite possibly, a horror-story she chose to advance anyway, for whatever reasons...

 

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I was asked here about a specific "network" breakdown so here is a basic one:

At the top of this sad pyramid is Max Blumenthal. There are reasons this crowd keeps hyping Blumenthal and they mainly stem from him acting as a director for their network. This thread is specifically about him and there is plenty of info/links here for people to peruse. The only person who seems to operate fully independent of him is Danny Haiphong who is a big enough CCP shill that he seems to have his own mini-network (or is at least a rouge gun for hire) to direct, so its not as if they are at odds. They do not appear to be rivals or in any sort of conflict... on the contrary, they appear to be contemporaries of each other, each with their own network and connections.

Top Tier Operatives:
Jimmy Dore - His show by far (hosted by washout comedians) garners the most views/analytic numbers of this network. He (Dore's wife fits into this category as well due to her proximity to Dore himself and her many dubious connection/activities in service of this network) has been exposed here pretty thoroughly but its certainly useful to remain aware of his status regarding these efforts. The JDS represents Max Blumenthal's main outlet to push his propaganda and interact with new suckers looking to get active while his Peoples Party swindle has the wheels falling off of it. Yet it still exists, thanks in large part to...

Nick Brana - For dubious reasons, Brana has been allowed to ascend to the top of this networks hierarchy, not in spite of his ineptitude and corruption, his advancement has been dependent on his ineptitude and corruption. After 5 years there is no viable party structure, not even the basics... this con job essentially exists online and functions to raise resources and profiles for the grifters involved while also disenfranchising those fed up/sheepdogging others back into the duopoly.

Mid Tier Operatives:
Kim Iversen - Another failed, d-minus grade "entertainer" who has already been discussed in this thread and what has been presented fits in with this synopsis of their rosters activities. Her youtube and patreon scams werent enough to "pay her bills" but were apparently enough to secure Iversen a hosting slot on the also discussed "The Hill" program.

Niko House - A completely compromised character as has been pointed out in this very thread... he appeared on the scene as an organizer during Bernie "sheepdog" Sanders 2016 Dem primary campaign, swore he was taking the DNC to court over that rigged primary, then proceeded to expose his multitude of alt-right connections as he burned through his "progressive" facade once the coast was clear to do so. His background in military intelligence speaks for itself. Leads his "Mi Casa Su Casa" network which still includes Convo Couch, however the social-climbing Iversen ditched that "network" in favor of angling for bigger opportunities such as her new hosting gig on The Hill.

Convo Couch - The lowest rung of the mid-tier operatives, often charged with pushing the more "cooky conspiratorial" angles of this crowd. Hosted by two failed Hollywood "actors" Craig Jardula and Fiorela Isabela with tech work done by her brother "Johnny Tsunami" (they were desperate to keep being siblings a secret, why?). Johnny and Fiorela have very interesting backgrounds and connections to say the least. As with all of them, total limited hangouts designed to sucker people in with a hint of the truth and exposing the smoke and mirrors of modern politics... then redirect them into the bozoland of this network. Convo Couch has been proven to cover up for, and work with cops and other "authorities" but to my knowledge have not yet been proven to work directly for them. Apparently Jardula and Ron Placone were originally working together and Dore drafted Placone to the "big time" via connection to his show as a guest and writer.

Lower Tier Operatives:

Katie Halper - Yet another failed comedian. Halper parlayed her Dalton High (Donald Barr/Jeff Epstein) pedigree into a hosting gig on the now-defunct Rolling Stone "Useful Idiots" podcast yet couldnt parlay that MSM gig into anything more substantial than her nowheresville youtube channel. How is she able to maintain such a high standard of living with no real job or media presence?

Ron Placone - Failed comedian Placone finally felt enough heat to step down from the Peoples Party insiders position he was installed into (along with the rest of PP leadership). Loyal sheepdoggie for the Sanders campaigns, he swore it was "yellow vest" time if Sanders was denied by cheating via DNC activity. Dont hold your breath for him to lead any street activity lol. Placone keeps puttering along, seemingly content with being third banana to Dore and...

Graham Elwood - Another wash-out comedian and a real creep... each of these actors has their particular angles they attempted to grift on into the maga/q/libertarian crowds with and Elwoods was supposedly keeping the heat turned up on the Epstein issue. Except that he sat on insider info he was given regarding that issue right on up to Les Wexner. Nuff said.

Jackson Hinkle - Initially presented as a Socal pseudo-liberal and young political hopeful, hes "the dude" behind the failed Peoples Party "Force The Vote" rallies which drew about 40 white and wannabe-white people in Birkenstocks to a Whole Foods parking lot in DC. Hes not going to be accepted by the alt-right crowd he is pandering to but has no bridge back to Progressives after he burned his initial facade. So on the one hand, not much shelf-life expected for his career here as it currently stands... on the other, hes the most photogenic slice of for-sale Wonderbread in this loaf so someone is likely to find a use for him down the line.

Richard Medhurst - A narcissistic chameleon who will, in one instance, try to school his audience on the Arab world and its intricacies... then will literally front like he cant speak Arabic when its convenient lol A look into who his parents and connections are pretty clearly indicates why his media output is so compromised. Recently was outed for aggressively grooming underage fans and followers online.

The Vanguard - Presented as a grimier alternative to Hinkle's clean cut image, they occasionally "go off script" and "confront" issues within this network once its directors realize they need to distract the people and get some of the heat off of themselves. They serve as a pressure release valve to keep the veneer inflated, but take the steam out of situations when the rank and file are heated and start calling out the network itself.

Franc Analysis - Basically serves as a fanboy/mascot for this network and operates towards the bottom in terms of hierarchy and influence. Also useful for "confronting" issues within the network and giving the illusion of accountability and difference of opinion between these actors. Part Puerto Rican or something so his mild, vaguely off-white ethnicity also serves as pitiful cover for the overwhelming whiteness and racism in this supposedly "diverse" network.

Slow News Day - Epitome of the "dirtbag left" SND reps for the sloppier, drugged out and vulgarity laced contingent of the network. Often seen with Convo Couch at public events either "documenting" them on film if there is action or if its one of their own events... standing around with the 5 or so people rooked into attending/pretending like they are at a legitimate event. Also in cahoots with whatever police activity Convo Couch is a part of and co-host Glory Jones has direct ties to South Florida sheepdog Jen Perelman.


Think this aint a network? Look at ALL of their recent Ukraine coverage. Look at the lock step dissemination of that propaganda, along with Myanmar, Libya and etc. etc. Look at how they continuously push items and people (the jab, covid "relief" legislation, AOC, Sanders, Turner, Uighur situation in China, Royhinga situation in Burma, the list goes on and on) then when its deemed safe for them to flip (in other words their directors feel the propaganda goal has been achieved or is no longer viable) the script they suddenly become outraged truth tellers regarding these very same issues and people. Its all there for anyone who wants to look with open eyes...
The only reason why I respectfully disagree with you about Zac & Gravin of The Vanguard is because both of them have been bootlicking Ryan Grim, a known ememy of Jimmy Dore, too often. Seriously, The Vanguard are too blind to see that Ryan Grim sold out the same way Cenk Uygur & Ana "I AM Freaking Better Than You" Kasparian did: Taking corporate news media money from Jeffrey Katzenburg!
 

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The only reason why I respectfully disagree with you about Zac & Gravin of The Vanguard is because both of them have been bootlicking Ryan Grim, a known ememy of Jimmy Dore, too often. Seriously, The Vanguard are too blind to see that Ryan Grim sold out the same way Cenk Uygur & Ana "I AM Freaking Better Than You" Kasparian did: Taking corporate news media money from Jeffrey Katzenburg!
I think you have a point regading them not being in total lock-step with the rest of their network, but I also feel that situation is "allowed" to exist... they all still defer to Dore/Blumenthal the vast majority of the time and still covet/compete for his visits to their channel.
 

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Graham Elwood, yet another washed up Hollywood washout comedian... curiously he supported the Iraq wars of aggression by going on USO tours there among other actions. And just like the rest of his network, he was for AOC/Sanders/the jab/mandates/Gabbard/etc... right up until he wasnt. He was also installed into a leadership position within the Dore/Blumenthal hustle and sheepdogging Peoples Party operation. Along with Placone & co. Graham Elwood is not an also-ran or a wannabe... hes a "never was". Peep for yourself the compassionate, in-depth "deep dive" Elwood goes on here in response to a question one of his viewers paid him to answer regarding a potential guilty/not-guilty verdict for the officers responsible for George Floyd's death... notice how he spends less than a minute on Floyd, contrasted with the videos remaining three minutes in which he is hawking merchandise, haranguing viewers to watch/like/subscribe and promote his media among your social circles, guilting people into traffic directly to his website... "Paypal, donations, cyrpto, rokfin!" And if that aint enough he plays a straight up minute long ad at the end which just repeats his pleas for money and attention.
See for yourself how Elwood and co. used george Floyd's murder, literally used his dead body to establish their just-add-water instacredentials as activists, journalists, politicians, radicals and etc... they used Floyd to maintain their Hollywood/entertainment industry lifestyles... do you still believe in them?
 
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