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Fascinating stuff.

I didn’t have the time to look up the words New Jerusalem when I first came across them but it was on my to do list. I first heard them here.


Would it come as any surprise to you that a music band, formed over 40 years ago by a blood ritual, who are open occultists and Crowley followers would be prophesying current events over 5 years ago?

Jaz Coleman the lead singer is on record as saying that all modern day religions have to go. He believes that all relgions are apocalyptic and "if enough people believe in it, it will happen"....or, to translate into masonic terms, all is mind.

When I first heard the above song I thought wow! These guys are great, they really get what's going on and are doing their best to inform the public. But when I started listening to the bands interviews it became quite clear to me that this was not the case.

To put it in simple terms the objective of the Freemasons is written on those Guidestones in Georgia. The reason why Freemasons don't talk about politics and religion is because they are the two things that need to be destroyed before the new age can be brought in.

Just look at the state of the people who are supposed to be the leaders of the free world....this hasn't happened accidentally, it's part of the boiling of the frog technique until we get to a point where we all turn against our governments. This is all part of the plan.

And during the chaos of these times there will then be an event which makes people question their very religion. This event will be there biggest yet and it will happen in the sky....because as Jay Coleman states that's what all these religious people are expecting anyway.

....just curious also @Nikōn Did you go to school with @AspiringSoul ? As you both appear to know your shit.
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What do you have on the left and right of your nose, below those hairs?


You're also committing a genetic fallacy trying to overemphasize that it is a BBC article. I am still waiting for you to give a reasonable argument to the contrary or offer ANY evidence for your claims.
The 'learnreligions' article points out the alleged connections with the Eye of Horus and makes the good point that the only actual connection between the both are that they are symbols involving an eye.
The author of the article is ignorant. Nobody who is deep into the occult claims this. This is just like low level Masons who make it seem that Freemasonry is an innocent gentleman's club who get together on the weekends and have sausage sizzles, play scrabble and do double backflips on the Grand Masters trampoline.
 






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The reason why Freemasons don't talk about politics and religion is because they are the two things that need to be destroyed before the new age can be brought in.
Frankly that is bullocks as the "new world order" WAS and is the USA government. Not as some apocalyptic doomsday scenario but as merely the turning of ethics and asserted striving towards a more 'rationalistic' country.
It is something over 3 centuries old now so it's hardly a "new order".
It was not to destroy religion per se but to strongly promote Secularism, typified by the "separation of church and state" idea which is held even by religious people these days as a kind of gospel.
I think you overestimate Freemasonry here as they're just one group who were lucky to get an older Christian symbol onto US bills.
The truth of the matter is that it is all the result of the 'enlightenment era' (of the 17th and 18th centuries, coinciding with the founding of Freemasonry) which is generally antireligious in nature by implication (but not originally intent unanimously) and what led us into nihilism and modernity globally.
It is more saner that we blame Aristotle's logic rather than some 'dark', 'evil', 'shadowy', 'secret society'. Aristotle started the train wreck, then Saint Thomas Aquinas brought it to the center of western intellectual thought, the Protestants kept dispersing it, then it started reaching a synthesis in Descartes, Bacon, Kant, Hegel, Newton, Hume, Lock, Spinoza, Voltaire.
All culminating in figures like Darwin and Niezsche.
Aristotle had a profound influence on all of the above. Whereas Plato had a greater influence on the mystics and magicians of history in their systems of idealist metaphysics.
 






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Nobody who is deep into the occult claims this.
So, you Billy, are very 'deep into the occult' and therefore have firm knowledge to claim the contrary?
At every turn you are trying to validate Kabbalists, Freemasons and the like which doesn't look good for you.
 






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Fascinating stuff.

I didn’t have the time to look up the words New Jerusalem when I first came across them but it was on my to do list. I first heard them here.


Would it come as any surprise to you that a music band, formed over 40 years ago by a blood ritual, who are open occultists and Crowley followers would be prophesying current events over 5 years ago?

Jaz Coleman the lead singer is on record as saying that all modern day religions have to go. He believes that all relgions are apocalyptic and "if enough people believe in it, it will happen"....or, to translate into masonic terms, all is mind.

When I first heard the above song I thought wow! These guys are great, they really get what's going on and are doing their best to inform the public. But when I started listening to the bands interviews it became quite clear to me that this was not the case.

To put it in simple terms the objective of the Freemasons is written on those Guidestones in Georgia. The reason why Freemasons don't talk about politics and religion is because they are the two things that need to be destroyed before the new age can be brought in.

Just look at the state of the people who are supposed to be the leaders of the free world....this hasn't happened accidentally, it's part of the boiling of the frog technique until we get to a point where we all turn against our governments. This is all part of the plan.

And during the chaos of these times there will then be an event which makes people question their very religion. This event will be there biggest yet and it will happen in the sky....because as Jay Coleman states that's what all these religious people are expecting anyway.

....just curious also @Nikōn Did you go to school with @AspiringSoul ? As you both appear to know your shit.
And frankly the 20th century put a stop to what both the Masons and US founders aimed at ideologically.
In the 20th century both Communism and Fascism emerged as strong forces on the minds of it's people and have ever since continued to be in a tug of war with each other, leaving the kind of 'rationalistic, secular science-minded, God-fearing' intentions of that "new world order" mainly in the dust.
The amount that Communism and Fascism have affected people is almost enough to render the constitution itself worthless.
 






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....am I guessing the rest here?
The Freemasons mentioned in the minutes of the World Masonic Conference, 1903 ,"It is not enough for us to prevail over the religious people and their places of worship, rather our basic goal is to wipe them out of existence."

They also mention how they aim to establish lodges everywhere to replaces mosques, churches and synagogues. I guess all the Masonic lodges everywhere are just buildings where they meet up to tell silly Dads jokes.

Your the one who is trying to pass the Freemasons off as a bunch of regular blokes who climb up the rock wall every week at the back of the Grand Masters mansion.
 






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The Freemasons mentioned in the minutes of the World Masonic Conference, 1903 ,"It is not enough for us to prevail over the religious people and their places of worship, rather our basic goal is to wipe them out of existence."
Source?
 






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Frankly that is bullocks as the "new world order" WAS and is the USA government.
Yes I agree with this completely.

It is something over 3 centuries old now so it's hardly a "new order".
But with such grand objectives it would have to be a long term project would it not?

Not as some apocalyptic doomsday scenario but as merely the turning of ethics and asserted striving towards a more 'rationalistic' country.
The country is currently being led by a cognitively impaired pensioner, where is the rationale there?

I think you overestimate Freemasonry here as they're just one group who were lucky to get an older Christian symbol onto US bills
But it's not just Freemasonry though is it? Don't you think there are links between the Jesuits and the Zionists also?
 






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Your the one who is trying to pass the Freemasons off as a bunch of regular blokes who climb up the rock wall every week at the back of the Grand Masters mansion.
Really? How do you work that one out? Have you read anything I posted in any of the Freemason threads? Nope. I guess not.

Within two posts I'm now seen as somebody who overestimates Freemasonry to somebody trying to pass them off as regular blokes.

I can't be both can I?
 






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Really? How do you work that one out? Have you read anything I posted in any of the Freemason threads? Nope. I guess not.

Within two posts I'm now seen as somebody who overestimates Freemasonry to somebody trying to pass them off as regular blokes.

I can't be both can I?
My bad. I was meant to reply to Nikon.
 






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Question:

"a) What is the ruling on a man who bequeathed to be buried in a coffin?
b) A Muslim who was a Mason died. The Islamic Funeral Prayer was observed for him followed by the rites of masonry. What is the Islamic ruling on this dead person and on those who performed these rites or allowed them to be performed?
c) What is Masonry? What is the Islamic ruling regarding it?"

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a) Placing the deceased in a coffin was an unknown practice at the time of the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) or the time of the Sahabah (the Companions of the Prophet - may Allah be pleased with them). It is better for Muslims to follow the path of the Prophet and his Companions. Hence, it is reprehensible to place the deceased in a coffin, whether the ground is hard, soft, or wet. If the deceased left a will to be placed in a coffin, those wills should not be carried out. According to the Shafi`y School, it is permissible to bury the dead in coffins, if the burial ground is soft or wet. Consequently, the above mentioned bequest should not be carried out except in such cases.

(b and c) Masonry is a secret political society whose goal is to put an end to all religions and good morals and replace them with man-made laws and non-religious systems. It strives to provoke ongoing revolutions and replace one regime with another, under the cover of calling for freedom of thought, opinion, and belief. This is supported by what was announced by one of them in the Students' Conference held in 1865 A.D. in the city of Liège which is considered to be one of the centers of masonry. He stated, "Man must prevail over God and declare war on Him. He should demolish the heavens and tear them apart like paper." In the Masonic Grand Lodge (1922/ p. 98), it is stated, "We shall strengthen the liberty of conscience through all powers we have and declare war on the real enemy of man, which is religion."
Moreover, the Masons say, "Masonry takes the human soul as its object of worship." It is reported in Minutes of the World Masonic Conference, 1903 A.D., p. 102, "It is not enough for us to prevail over the religious people and their places of worship, rather our basic goal is to wipe them out of existence." They also say, "Masonry will replace religion and its Lodges will replace the places of worship …" There are many other statements that reveal their adamant enmity and uncompromising war against religions. The Freemasons are one of the most ancient secret societies which still exist. However, their origins are still unknown to many people and even to many of their members, because the plots of their leaders are very secret and hidden and they are very keen to conceal their plots and aims. Therefore most of their affairs are conducted verbally, with no written record. When they want to write an idea or announce it to the public, it is first subjected to the scrutiny of Masonic censors who decide whether it may be released or not. The foundations of Freemasonry were based on theories taken from several sources, mostly from Jewish traditions. This is supported by the fact that Jewish ideas and teachings were taken as the basis for founding the Grand Lodge in 1717 A.D. with its principles and symbols. The Masons still venerate the Jew Hiram and the temple he built, from which they take the design of the Masonic lodges in the world. The greatest Masonic leaders are Jews who form the backbone of the Masonic movement. They are the ones who represent Jewish organizations in Masonic lodges. Thanks to them, Masonry spread and masons can cooperate throughout the world. They are the driving force behind masonry. The Jewish elite are leading different secret cells, running their affairs and directing them secretly as they wish. This is supported by a report in the Masonic Acacia Magazine (1908, issue no. 66) which says that there is no Masonic lodge that is free of the Jews. Indeed, all Jews do not follow one way or another exclusively, rather there are only principles for them to follow. This is also the case with the Masons . Therefore, the Jewish synagogues are our successor and we find great number of the Jews among the Freemasons.

This is also supported by what is stated in the Masonic records that, "The Jews are certain that the best means of destroying the faiths is Freemasonry. The history of the Masons is similar to that of the Jews in terms of belief. Their symbol is the six-pointed Star of David. The Jews and Freemasons both consider themselves to be the spiritual sons of the builders of the Temple of Solomon. The Freemasonry which distorts other religions opens the door to boost Judaism and its followers. The Jews took advantage of people's simple-mindedness and good intentions, and infiltrated masonry and reached high positions within it, thus they breathed a Jewish spirit into the Masonic lodges and subjugated them to their own aims.

One of the clearest indications of their intense desire to conceal their plots to destroy religions and provoke political revolutions is what it says in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, "We will concentrate these cells under a single leadership known to us alone. This leadership will be composed of our scholars and these cells will have special representatives, so that the true location of our leadership will be concealed. This leadership alone will have the right to decide who will speak, and to draw up the plans of the day. In these cells we will plan to lay traps for all the socialists and evolutionary classes of society. Most of the secret political plans are known to us and we will decide when to implement them. But the agents of the secret police will be members of these cells. When the conspiracies start throughout the world, it will mean that one of our most dedicated agents will be at the head of these conspiracies and of course we will be the only people to direct the Masonic plots. We are the only people who know how to direct them and we know the ultimate goal of each action, whilst the Gentiles – non-Jews – are ignorant of most of these things related to the Masons, and they can not see the immediate results of what they are doing. And there is other evidence which points to the strong connection between the Jews and the Masons, and the cooperation between the two parties in revolutionary conspiracies and stirring up destructive movements. Even though Freemasonry outwardly appears to be a call to freedom of belief, tolerance, and social reform in general, in fact it is really a call for permissiveness and destructive factors which cause social disintegration and the loosening of bonds between nations and destruction of religion, morals, and the spread of mischief.

Therefore, any Muslim who joins a Masonic group, knows the true nature of Freemasonry and its secrets, and carries out its rituals and is keen to do so is a Kafir (disbeliever) who should be asked to repent. If he repents, all will be well and good, otherwise he is to be killed. If he dies naturally in that state, he will be recompensed as a Kafir. Whoever joins the Freemasons not knowing what they really are, or knowing nothing about their plots against Islam and Muslims, and their spreading evil and the evil that they are planning against everyone who tries to bring people together and reform nations, but joins them in their general activities and talks that do not apparently contradict Islam, is not a Kafir. Rather he is excused in general because of their concealing their true nature from him, and because he does not share their basic beliefs or aims. The Prophet (peace be upon him) said, Acts are judged by intentions, and every person will have only what he has intended. But he must declare his disavowal of them when he finds out what they really are, and he must tell people about their real nature and strive to disclose their secrets and plots against the Muslims, so that this will lay bare their hidden nature and frustrate their efforts.

A Muslim should keep company with good people who will cooperate with him in his religious and worldly affairs. He should have insight when choosing close friends so that he can be safe from being tempted by these apparently attractive ideas and the evil consequences of honeyed words. Thus, he will not fall into the traps of the people of Shirk, which they set up to ensnare the naive, followers of whims and desires, and the weak-minded.

May Allah grant us success! May peace and blessings of Allah be upon our Prophet Muhammad, his family, and Companions!

Permanent Committee for Scholarly Research and Ifta'
Shaykh 'Abdul-Razzaq 'Afify
Shaykh 'Abdullah Ghudayyan
Shaykh 'Abdullah ibn Mani'


Source: www.alifta.net - First question of Fatwa No. 893
 






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and c) Masonry is a secret political society whose goal is to put an end to all religions and good morals and replace them with man-made laws and non-religious systems. It strives to provoke ongoing revolutions and replace one regime with another
 






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The Freemasons hate Muslims and Christians because we stand in the way of their corrupt moral standards that they want to push on everyone.
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They go through a mind control process which leaves the subject unable to see immorality as something bad. To be truly enlightened you have to identify and embrace your shadow, the dark side of your charachter that people supress.

Corruption can hardly be seen as wrong if they have to blackmail their own members into secrecy.
 






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And frankly the 20th century put a stop to what both the Masons and US founders aimed at ideologically
After watching their 300th anniversary celebrations I'd say their plans are pretty much on course. A very eye opening watch....(pun intended)

You're probably already well aware of this but the Freemason/Zionist/Jesuit link is more than tenuous. I'd be interested on your comments on this article.

 






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After watching their 300th anniversary celebrations I'd say their plans are pretty much on course.
On that, I think a dose of reality may help.
The following quote is from a blog post by a prominent member of the Neonazi Satanist Occult Order Of Nine Angles. Your post brought this directly to mind as it concerns the actual practicality of such organizations or "secret societies" in the modern era.
I in now way condone the O9A in any way shape or form and by posting this am giving you something to chew on:

Back in that era of o9a, the o9a was, like AMORC and OBOD, a “mail order” Order. Back then, the o9a was an idea invented by “Anton Long.” Perhaps AL desired to have his own Satanic Organization, like how LaVey and Aquino had theirs? Perhaps AL needed to make some money to sustain himself? Who knows what the original and actual reasoning was. But AL created the o9a back in those days, to function like AMORC and OBOD: he used typewriters to make pamphlets which ended up being called “Manuscripts;” what we today call “ONA MSS,” which is the equivalent of AMORC’s “monograph,” and OBOD’s “Gwers.” As a person desiring to “join” that old iteration of o9a, you would send AL or one of his buddies working the PO Boxes some money to purchase “Core” texts which contained the self-initiation rituals. And you would purchase the institutional curricula which contained the “teachings,” such as the Hostias, the Black Book of Satan, Naos, etc. Today, we call the entire mass of ONA MSS and Core Texts [all written by AL from 1970-2011] the “ONA Corpus,” which consists of about 5000 pages worth of stuff.

And so, that method of institutional propagation is actually pretty effective. By that same method of self-initiatic propagation, AMORC today is the richest mystical/esoteric organization in the world and OBOD is today the largest contemporary “neo-druid” organization in the world. To give poetic contrast: today Freemasonry, at least in America and the UK, and Canada, and New Zealand, and Australia, is dying because Freemasonry has a very difficult time adapting to the current internet/information age. Generation Y & Z simply aren’t interested in being in a physical Lodge or Church, because spiritual information is freely available in cyberspace. And, judging by their ancient, very ancient traditions, Hell would freeze over before Freemasonry discontinues its physical initiation rituals for self-initiatic ones! Any creature or institution which lacks the ability or capacity to adapt to the change of environment will go extinct: and I predict that in a few decades, as Baby-Boomers and X Gen phase out and dies off, that Freemasonry will be dead.

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Freemasonry

Before Albert Pike entered the scene, the “Scottish Rite” was spiraling slowly to its death. Just to clarify a few things: a “Rite” in Freemasonry is not Constitutionally a part of Freemasonry. In Constitution, which is to say, according to its own ancient Constitution, “Freemasonry” only consists of the Degrees of Entered Apprentice [1st degree], Fellow Craft [2nd degree], and Master Mason [3rd degree]; plus the degree of the Holy Royal Arch [7th degree in the American “York Rite”].

In ancient times, like circa the 1730s up till circa 1813, the ancient Masonic Lodges in England and Scotland had a huge sissy fight over what exactly constituted “Freemasonry.” The English – being the English that they are – insisted that they had invented Freemasonry in the year 1717, and since they invented Freemasonry what they say Freemasonry is, is what Freemasonry is. And so the English said that Freemasonry consists only of three degrees, that of Entered Apprentice, Fellow Craft, and Master Mason.

The Scottish had a different story. The Scottish, and their supporters said that Freemasonry goes way back further in Scotland, even before 1717, and that up in the island of Kilwinning, there are even evidence that a degree called the Holy Royal Arch was in usage and practice, since ancient times.

This fight, between what Freemasonry exactly consists of tore the Masonic Lodges of the British Isles apart into warring factions for over one hundred years. Each faction founded their own “grand lodge” and spread their own version of Freemasonry. The English called their Version of Freemasonry the Moderns, and officially referred to their Freemasonry as “Free & Accepted Masons,” or “F&AM.” While the Scottish and their supporters in England, Wales, and Ireland, referred to themselves as the “Antients” and officially referred to their Freemasonry [Entered Prentice, Fellow Craft, & Holy Royal Arch] as “Antient Free & Accepted Masons,” or “AF&AM.”

One day, around 1813, this sissy fight ended, and the rival grand lodges became friends. They held a meeting to once and for all define what exactly is Freemasonry. The agreement was that Freemasonry consists of the Entered Apprentice degree, Fellow Craft degree, and Master Master degree, “including the Holy Royal Arch.” And so, if you study Freemasonry and look at their Grand Lodges, if a grand lodge uses the call letters “F&AM” that means that said grand lodge is a descendent of the Moderns [the English], whereas grand lodges which use the call letters “AF&AM” are descendants of the Antients [the Scottish]. “Descendant” meaning that their ritual work and charter ultimately traces back to one of those two; in general. There are other species of grand lodges, such as the Grand Orients, which are French in origin, and which are open to atheists. Some Grand Orient jurisdictions even letting in women.

And so, in the proper context of what exactly constitutes “Freemasonry,” a “Rite” of Freemasonry is not Constitutionally a part of Freemasonry proper [despite what the general public and even some ill educated Freemasons believe]. Not legally. Legally meaning in accord with their ancient Constitution; defined and stipulated by such.

A “Rite” is when a person or group of people create and invent new “degrees” and they submit a document of affiliation with a Grand Lodge jurisdiction. The Grand Lodge will then basically say to this person or group of people: “If you desire for our Master Masons to join your organization and partake in your system of degrees, then you must follow the ancient Constitution of our Grand Lodge and subordinate yourself to the edicts, rules, and regulations of our Grand Lodge. If you fail to observe our edicts, rules, and regulations, your Rite will be deemed “Clandestine” or “Irregular” and we will bar our Freemasons from joining your Rite.”

And so, in the old days, around the century of the 1800s, the OTO [Ordo Templi Orientis] actually began as a Masonic Rite proper. Back in those old days, the OTO was called the “Academia Masonica,” and it had a system of degrees which claimed to teach the real secrets of Freemasonry. Unfortunately, the Academia Masonica was never very popular, and so it did not have a lot of members. In order to remedy this sistuation, the Academia Masonica began to initiate women! This is a cardinal sin in Freemasonry. Women cannot be Freemasons. The Grand Lodges ordered the Academia Masonica to stop initiating women or be rejected as a Clandestine body. The Academia Masonica disobeyed the Grand Lodges, and were thus deemed irregular and regular Master Masons were barred from joining the Academia Masonica. The said Academia eventually changed its name to the Ordo Templi Orientis.

Likewise with the so called “Bavarian Illuminati.” Originally, the so called Bavarian Illuminati began as a Rite of Freemasonry calling itself the “Bund der Perfektibilisten” which roughly means the “Fellowship of the Perfectablists.” The Perfectiblist Order during its lifetime had a membership which never exceeded 1000. In addition to the three degrees of Freemasonry, the Order of Perfectablists offered a system of extra degrees. But the Order of Perfrectablists’ higher degrees were never worked out or created. They fell out of favour as a Rite with the Grand Lodge, and were rejected from Freemasonry. “Perfectablist,” meaning One Who Is Perfectable, able to be Perfected: which is the belief that the human being can endeavor to strive and struggle towards greater states of spiritual Perfection, until one has achieved a state of spiritual illumination [what Buddhism refers to as “Enlightenment/Satori/Buddhi”]: hence the name/term “illuminati,” meaning Those Who Are Illuminated.

The so-called “Scottish Rite” began its life as a system of degrees called the Rite of Perfection; loosely inspired by the German doctrine of Perfectability a la the Bund der Perfektibilisten. Originally the Rite of Perfection had in its system 25 degrees: the 4th degree up to the 25th degrees; the first three degrees being Freemasonry proper. The Rite of Perfection, began its life, in all places, not in Scotland, but in Jamaica.

Those 25 degrees were eventually expanded into 32 degrees. At one point in history, an Honourary Grand Master of the United Grand Lodge of England, who was the Duke of Kent [if my Freemasonry studies remains accurate] became initiated into this expanded 32 degree Rite of Perfection. One degree of this Rite, specifically a degree called “Knight of the Sun,” had so greatly offended the Duke, that he ordered the entire system redone immediately!

I love studying secret societies, and so I have books about their secret teachings and secret initiation degrees, from the Golden Dawn to OTO, to Freemasonry. And so, I do have a copy of the original 32 degrees of the “Scottish Rite” before the Duke changed them. The degree of “Knight of the Sun,” in that original ritual working, is understandably very offensive to a Christian. And back then, they were devout Christians. The said degree overtly called for the eventual destruction of all religion, because it taught that religion is what fetters mankind down in mindless superstition.

Around the time when the degrees of the Scottish Rite were recreated to be more Christian friendly [hence the addition of the 33rd degree: Jesus Christ was arrested and crucified when he was 33 years-old], the Morgan Affair began to have an affect on Freemasonry.

The Morgan Affair is a bit of Masonic history where some guy [a non-Mason] had infiltrated a Masonic Lodge, and he then published the secret ritual work of Freemasonry. Shortly after Morgan published his expose, he was found murdered. The combination of an expose of secret blood oaths, and the murder of Morgan, caused people to socially shun Freemasons. And so, Freemasonry began to suffer from a decline in membership.

Thus the Scottish Rite, floundered and its membership greatly decreased. It was around this time that a young Confederate officer, named Albert Pike was called to the Scottish Rite by its Egregore to help it survive. Albert Pike joined the Scottish Rite, and quickly worked his way up the Rite, and then he changed the entire system of the Rite.

Before Albert Pike, Freemasonry was essentially a Christian institution. It was actually Albert Pike who infused the degrees of his Scottish Rite with the Kabbalah [at that time, such was still nouveau and cool], Gematria, Ancient Greek Philosophy, Chaldean and Babylonian mysticism, Vedic mysticism, and old-world Pagan mysticism. Albert Pike was the single man responsible for literally transforming a hum-drum and boring Christian institution into a mystical and philosophical fraternity of Esoterica. After Albert Pike was done with his changes and innovations, the Esoterica breathed new life into Freemasonry and the Scottish Rite, and membership exploded in America, peaking circa 1950, where one out of ever 4 men in America were Freemasons! Today, most Freemasons, and certainly the average public person, cannot image a Freemasonry sans the Esotericism and mysticism and philosophy. That’s all Albert Pike’s work and the people he plagiarized. Before Pike, Freemasonry was nothing like that.

I love studying stuff like this, because it shows you how a memetic entity, such as Freemasonry, a religion, a political ideology, etc, fights and struggles to survive and adapt to the change in environment and generations. You see, time and time again, that when an institution weakens and becomes sick, its Egregore calls forth people to it who can or will help it change and struggle to survive.


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The way that institutions like AMORC and OBOD propagate themselves, via self-initiation rituals, is effective, especially in this age of the internet. It’s just how things evolve. Each generation of human beings have their own state of mind, world-views, needs, desires, likes, and dislikes. In order to stay alive and relevant, you must always build onto your organization and system, must always add to your culture and tradition so that each generation sees a part of themselves in your institution. So that each generation, when reaching the age where they seek out elders of their culture for wisdom, knowledge, and meaning in life, sees such in your institution. This should be commonsense, because to fix your institution onto only the needs and whims of an old generation means that your institution will eventually die out, simply because old human beings die of old age and will take their beliefs and interests with them to the grave.

In that light, Freemasonry has a huge disadvantage, because its clunky old-world initiation ceremonies, and old-world Albert Pikian mysticism, doesn’t appeal to Generations Y & Z. I find such to be exciting to watch and observe: to see if a memetic organism such as Freemasonry can fight for its own relevance and survival; to see if anybody out there will feel in their spirit and heart, the call of Freemasonry’s Egregore to come forth and help it survive. I have my doubts, and place my bets on what Freemasonry has spawned into the world. Namely things like OBOD, which is more flexible, malleable, changeable, adaptable.





In the modern age anyway, memes and ideologies (which are themselves memes) spread much further and wide than secret societies. Within any kind of group with limited membership, sectarian dispute is guaranteed and over time with changing technologies and so forth, the less relevant such groups become in comparison to the growth of social media and even email before it.
For a lot of reasons I see Masonry as just a relic of Enlightenment era ambition and possibly pre-romantic (as in the art movement) sentiment.
 






billy t

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1917 advert from a New Zealand newspaper. Interesting. This is just one of many things i have dug up and put in the archive.

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Was watching Passio's videos and he says "I am a luciferian" later explaining he is the "light/good" one.
There he goes again, rambling about good/bad, light/dark again...
 






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