Marilyn Manson accused of abuse, more like a MK handler

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Here are some allegations made about him, the tactics he used sounds like a handler

There are several allegations, but this statement is very telling

Ashley Walters says she worked for Manson full-time as a personal assistant. She claims that he "frequently became violent" and would throw glass plates and heavy objects. She says she now struggles with PTSD and depression.

Walters wrote that she witnessed "horrifying, deranged behavior" from Manson. "He was extremely interested in mind control, torture tactics [ie: different sound frequencies that would shift your mood, or make you nauseous], and spy devices to gather information for blackmailing and manipulation."

Marilyn Manson was a friend of Anton Lavey, the founder of the church of Satan. He had a connection with the occult elite.
 






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official source:

they're confessing their desires, their symbols. they're caught, they're being sued. after all, they are not canceled, they continue to be employed in the industry. they continue their friendships with the rest of the industry. they're hosted at the president's ceremony. (Hanks)

there's no conspiracy theory but retarded humanity.
 






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Canceling is just the new version of sweeping under the rug.

Maybe there was a transformation of consciousness or something. Sweeping under the rug used to be completely ignoring the problem. These days we try to beat the problem with a stick until we get bored. So abuse will be bad for a couple of weeks, but that's as far as most people will take it.
 






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Who would guess that this guy 1612290344499.png was abusive, this is so completely shocking.

Marilyn Manson was part of my childhood. Back when I was 12 my friends and I would make fun of him at school (stuff like this "oh manson", this "Dança da Manivela" and this "Festa no Apê") after we realized he was more pathetic than scary, specially without the makeup on.

But in all seriousness, I believe the guy is more of a pathetic edgelord who tries too hard to be bad, and his ties to LaVey kinda cemented it more. I guess there is more to it than we may realize now
 






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He admitted he read the Necronomicon. So I'm wondering if this is some death cult payback. Maybe that's premature, but if it is death cult payback, then he's really canceled.
 






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He admitted he read the Necronomicon. So I'm wondering if this is some death cult payback. Maybe that's premature, but if it is death cult payback, then he's really canceled.
The necronomicon is a work of fiction..

As for his ties to Lavey, membership in the church of Satan is reserved for those who have achieved outstanding things in their career, and while Manson is probably an asshole he did have a very succesful career that made him eligible for membership. And it is open to anyone who wants to join, not just 'the elite'.
Read this if you don't believe me: https://www.churchofsatan.com/hierarchy/
 






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The necronomicon is a work of fiction..

As for his ties to Lavey, membership in the church of Satan is reserved for those who have achieved outstanding things in their career, and while Manson is probably an asshole he did have a very succesful career that made him eligible for membership. And it is open to anyone who wants to join, not just 'the elite'.
Read this if you don't believe me: https://www.churchofsatan.com/hierarchy/
The Necronomicon being fiction is irrelevant to the fact that Manson claimed to read it. He's glorifying it, and the question is why? Plus, I thought Satanists didn't even believe in ghosts.
 






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The Necronomicon being fiction is irrelevant to the fact that Manson claimed to read it. He's glorifying it, and the question is why? Plus, I thought Satanists didn't even believe in ghosts.
Well, atheistic Satanists don't believe in paranormal things. There are theistic Satanists too, but we don't associate with them. What Manson does, needs not represent all of Satanism. Just as Warren Jeffs does not have to represent all of Christianity.
 






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Well, atheistic Satanists don't believe in paranormal things. There are theistic Satanists too, but we don't associate with them. What Manson does, needs not represent all of Satanism. Just as Warren Jeffs does not have to represent all of Christianity.
Gotcha.

Can I ask what it would take for you to believe in ghosts?
 






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Cern has evidence of spiritual beings from images captured when they force the particles to collide.
 






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"the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist."

materialism (or "science worship", or atheism) = satanism anyway. useful "white" tools for the devil. programmed into infinite rationalization to deny the word of God. "atheistic satanism" is just a more shameless tool to get people used to the devil's name and symbols.

It doesn't matter if a sick and corrupt person who declares her(him)self a satanist, what (s)he believes naturally or metaphysically. it's clear whose plan (s)he served.
 






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Here are some allegations made about him, the tactics he used sounds like a handler

There are several allegations, but this statement is very telling

Ashley Walters says she worked for Manson full-time as a personal assistant. She claims that he "frequently became violent" and would throw glass plates and heavy objects. She says she now struggles with PTSD and depression.

Walters wrote that she witnessed "horrifying, deranged behavior" from Manson. "He was extremely interested in mind control, torture tactics [ie: different sound frequencies that would shift your mood, or make you nauseous], and spy devices to gather information for blackmailing and manipulation."

Marilyn Manson was a friend of Anton Lavey, the founder of the church of Satan. He had a connection with the occult elite.
I live in a large city, and a girlfriend of mine (who is an absolutely STUNNING, unique goth girl) attended Manson’s concert a few years ago, and one of his cronies approached her and told her that Marilyn Manson would like her to come backstage after his show and meet her (he was married at this time, note...not that these sleazy, disloyal “rock stars” ever care about how their wives feel about them cheating on them.. so selfish.. anyways), she accepted, and told me he was on all types of drugs (ecstasy, and other drugs that did not seem to be mixing well together), and he kept making her uncomfortable by coming on to her time & time again. My friend wasn’t into it, and just left. I heard that Manson wrote a book and it mentioned what he and his band mates would do to their groupies. That was quite a long time ago, but I remember being absolutely disgusted with how he and his band abused these (girl) fans. It bothered me so much, I never bothered to get into his music. He stopped existing to me as a “rock star.” I am SO happy that the actress he had been grooming when she was a teenager came forward to expose his horrendous abuse (her name is Evan Rachel Wood), so she can finally start healing from what he did to her. You know, it’s really something how one day, Brian Warner (Marilyn Manson’s real name) can be just a regular guy with a regular job, a nice girlfriend, and he’s known as a cool, creative partier who was thinking about starting a band. Next thing you know, Brian Warner changes his name (I’ve always loathed Charlie Manson, and Marilyn Monroe was nothing more than a victim from a young age til when she arrived in Hollywood; her life was superficially “glamorous,” but what went on behind the scenes was anything BUT “glamorous.”) he’s turned into a raging, misogynistic, abusive, violent, nasty, female fan degrading MONSTER who’s now very rich, and is on a hateful, female destructive power trip! Was he always like this as just a regular guy named Brian Warner? Who knows? Even so, there is NO excuse for hurting poor Evan Rachel Wood. Marilyn Manson has had beautiful wives: Dita Von Teese, Rose Mc Gowan, etc, tons of cash, numerous adoring fans, all the drugs he can ingest, star treatment, etc but that’s just not enough for him. He needs to be able to ABUSE women as well!!! Unbelievable. It’s truly never enough for how much power men are after & allowed!!!
 






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This guy has too many references to occult elite in his works but one interesting is the cover work for Tourniquet single.
One eye hidden and butterfly...
 






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didn't he was also abused by his grandfather or something, i heard that once
In his autobiography The Long Hard Road Out of Hell (Co-written with Neil Strauss)
he tells he saw his grandfather masturbating in the basement (Hell meant grandfather's basement back then.) and hiding possible noises with miniature traintrack.
This is referenced in MM song Kinderfeld:
"When he turns the trains on
he makes it go away "
His grandfather also had quite a collection of porn in his basement according to the forementioned autobiography.
 






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In his autobiography The Long Hard Road Out of Hell (Co-written with Neil Strauss)
he tells he saw his grandfather masturbating in the basement (Hell meant grandfather's basement back then.) and hiding possible noises with miniature traintrack.
This is referenced in MM song Kinderfeld:
"When he turns the trains on
he makes it go away "
His grandfather also had quite a collection of porn in his basement according to the forementioned autobiography.
ok thanks for the information
 






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My grandparents had the most boring basement. But I wasn't looking around for porn stashes.

Every kid probably walked in on their parents having sex or naked, so IDK what to do with that information. It's not much of a reason for anything. In other words, there is no need to get to know the enemy. We already know what they are capable of, it's a lot of abuse, plus they can spin any L into a win.

What we need is to do is keep occupying them. Take me, for example; my philosophy is if I can attract all the hornets and keep them off countless other victims, it's a game I'll play until the end. They are hornets, and hornets are too dumb to know they are being decoyed.
 






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In his autobiography The Long Hard Road Out of Hell (Co-written with Neil Strauss)
he tells he saw his grandfather masturbating in the basement (Hell meant grandfather's basement back then.) and hiding possible noises with miniature traintrack.
This is referenced in MM song Kinderfeld:
"When he turns the trains on
he makes it go away "
His grandfather also had quite a collection of porn in his basement according to the forementioned autobiography.
That is absolutely NO excuse for what he’s been doing to these poor women/girls. I know people personally who have lived through abuse a million times worse, and chose to heal and move on; not permanently damage other innocent people..!!
 






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That is absolutely NO excuse for what he’s been doing to these poor women/girls. I know people personally who have lived through abuse a million times worse, and chose to heal and move on; not permanently damage other innocent people..!!
Marilyn Manson/Brian Warner WAS NOT abused and he DOES NOT use this as an excuse. He sneaked into to basement and hid to see what his grandfather was doing down there.
 






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