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Some revealing AT THE TOP of responses to an ad campaign
LGBT+ movement starting to backfire (part 2)
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A few too close-to-real life tweets from the parody account Babylon Bee
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There are still some therapists who haven't fallen for children "questioning sexuality" automatically equals transgender. https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1392166899983790084.html
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I once cared for a teen suffering sex dysphoria. He’d been abused & so disassociated. In his mind the type of abuse he grew up with was associated with females. At the same time, his anxiety & depression increased whenever his coping method clashed with his reality.
Years went by and this now young man was finally convinced that nothing done to him was about him. I imagine he still has moments of doubt, survivors of abuse always do, but with therapy & a safer home environment his disassociation became less severe.
The last I saw of this young man, he was going to a trade school and appeared happy & secure. A remarkable human being who overcame because he was strong enough to accept help. I think about him whenever I hear about “conversion” guidelines regarding transgender identity.
I think about how easily it would have been to agree with a child’s unhealthy coping methods. How much easier it would have been to write him off as yet another trans child who just needed hormones, blockers, surgery & pronoun changes instead of arduous years of therapy.
And the amount of rage I feel at knowing that people in places like Stonewall would have helped to further destroy this young man’s mind. That they would have continued the abuse that led to a child’s belief that it was his body responsible for his abuse. That HE was wrong.
I think about how many children are looking for help because the abuse they suffer, whether at the hands of one person or an entire society, and instead of that help they get adults furthering the abuse. Furthering the inner shame, the internalized hate, the disassociation.
Because at the end of the day, professional validation of sex dysphoria is medical abuse. Dysphoria will always only be a coping mechanism for trauma. And validation of it can only ever be a continuation of that trauma. It’s a bandaid covering up mortal wounds to the mind.
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Whole entry:
I once cared for a teen suffering sex dysphoria. He’d been abused & so disassociated. In his mind the type of abuse he grew up with was associated with females. At the same time, his anxiety & depression increased whenever his coping method clashed with his reality.
Years went by and this now young man was finally convinced that nothing done to him was about him. I imagine he still has moments of doubt, survivors of abuse always do, but with therapy & a safer home environment his disassociation became less severe.
The last I saw of this young man, he was going to a trade school and appeared happy & secure. A remarkable human being who overcame because he was strong enough to accept help. I think about him whenever I hear about “conversion” guidelines regarding transgender identity.
I think about how easily it would have been to agree with a child’s unhealthy coping methods. How much easier it would have been to write him off as yet another trans child who just needed hormones, blockers, surgery & pronoun changes instead of arduous years of therapy.
And the amount of rage I feel at knowing that people in places like Stonewall would have helped to further destroy this young man’s mind. That they would have continued the abuse that led to a child’s belief that it was his body responsible for his abuse. That HE was wrong.
I think about how many children are looking for help because the abuse they suffer, whether at the hands of one person or an entire society, and instead of that help they get adults furthering the abuse. Furthering the inner shame, the internalized hate, the disassociation.
Because at the end of the day, professional validation of sex dysphoria is medical abuse. Dysphoria will always only be a coping mechanism for trauma. And validation of it can only ever be a continuation of that trauma. It’s a bandaid covering up mortal wounds to the mind.
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faceless dehumanised lego pieces. Pretty much how transhumanism is meant to go right?! all in the name of inclusivity
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Spain and Germany have voted no against self ID . This is massive news.
www.hrw.org
(Berlin) – Spain’s Congress of Deputies on May 18, 2021, rejected a landmark legislative proposal that would have allowed legal gender recognition based on self-determination, Human Rights Watch said.
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There is was hearing on May 19th where the German Bundestag voted about Self-ID in Germany !
Results:
FDP (liberals) draft 181 yes vs. 461 no – REJECTED!
Green draft 118 yes vs. 456 no – REJECTED!
Some of the German proposals were shocking.
Spain: Missed Opportunity on Gender Recognition
(Berlin, May 20, 2021) – Spain’s Congress of Deputies on May 18, 2021, rejected a landmark legislative proposal that would have allowed legal gender recognition based on self-determination.
Self-ID in Germany
On August 23, 2023, the draft of the “Self-Determination Act” („Selbstbestimmungsgesetz“) was passed in the German federal cabinet. However, it still has to be read out in the Bundestag before it…
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Results:
FDP (liberals) draft 181 yes vs. 461 no – REJECTED!
Green draft 118 yes vs. 456 no – REJECTED!
Some of the German proposals were shocking.
- 14 y.o. kids can decide to change ‚gender‘, even against parent’s will
- and/or 14 y.o. can start medical procedures – including SRS (again, without gender dysphoria)
- Misgendering“ someone could costs up to 2.500€ (i.e. if someone calls a man who doesn’t want to be a man „Sir“ or „he“ or a woman who doesn’t want to be a woman „Madam“ or „she“)
- No precautions against possible abuse of this law.
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The parody account of Titania McGrath did a great entry.
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LEGO Unveils New Genderless Bricks With No Male/Female Connectors
BILLUND, DENMARK—As part of its new push toward inclusion and diversity, LEGO has unveiled a new set of genderless bricks without male or female connectors. The entirely smooth bricks have no suggestive male nubs or female receptors and instead have entirely smooth, androgynous sides all around.
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Even cereal is trying to brainwash children.
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Whole article from https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/4972efe4-ba6d-11eb-98e3-d1306649ebf7?shareToken=110e93f826cef0c74226d8509cfff780
Stonewall should stay out of trans rights war
The organisation I helped found has lost its way since winning gay equality and is mired in an issue that isn’t its concern
Matthew Parris
Saturday May 22 2021, 12.01am BST, The Times
Imagine (in my case the effort is minimal) you are a gay man, and open about it. Thirty years ago this would have brought huge difficulties, attracted hostility, excluded you from many careers, and made you feel almost an exile in your own country.
Things have changed — and how! Broadly speaking life in Britain has been normalised for you. Yes, you may still face raised eyebrows and residual prejudice; there remain anomalies and you’re aware there’s further progress to be made in shifting attitudes in (for instance) schools, churches, ethnic minority communities and the world of sport. But frankly these are details. Today you can marry, be a tinker, tailor, soldier, spy. Or MP. There’s no crushing sense of victimisation. You do not feel society is against you.
You hear talk of “identities” but your gay identity overlaps with so many others you feel that it needn’t define you. Nevertheless, as “a member of the gay community” (a fiction that can make you grind your teeth) you may feel there’s still a need for an organisation to speak up for gay men and lesbian women’s rights and needs: to do “outreach” work in British schools and workplaces, and maybe abroad where your fellowgays still face the gallows. You might join and pay your subs to such an organisation.
I did — until last year. I was one of that organisation’s fourteen founders. Stonewall, formed on May 24, 1989, was set up during the furore over Section 28 of the local government act, engineered by a Tory government to ban the “promotion” of homosexuality. Most of us founders had been part of an ad-hoc group to oppose the legislation. I remember well the windowless little lounge where previously we’d met in the gay nightclub, Heaven, under the railway arches at London’s Charing Cross station. We were the guests of its proprietor, Richard Branson. I remember the advice and support we got from outsiders like Peter Mandelson, and our sorrowful defiance when Section 28 became law. A defiance that led to that gathering on May 24.
I remember, too, the sense of solidarity between stalwarts such as Ian McKellen (kindly, conciliatory and shrewd) and Lisa Power (punchy, motherly and fun). I remember Michael Cashman (he of the first gay kiss in EastEnders): thoughtful, civil, and empathetic. We didn’t always agree on aims (I was for reducing the age of male homosexual consent from 21 to 18; the majority were for full equality at 16, so 16 it was) but the big thing we wanted — for gay men and lesbian women to come out of the shadows and into the sun — was so clear and strong that our differences melted in its glare. We rented a little office, engaged a CEO, and Stonewall was launched.
Monday marks the 32nd anniversary of that Wednesday in 1989. But Stonewall has lost its way. The sun we all thought we saw has gone behind clouds of anger, intolerance and partisanship. The organisation is tangled up in the trans issue, cornered into an extremist stance on a debate that a charity formed to help gay men, lesbian women and bisexual people should never have got itself into.
You may have seen the latest on this in The Times on Thursday (“Stonewall ‘gave bad advice’ to university in free speech row”). A nasty little spat. After complaints from students, and advice from Stonewall, Essex : two women whose opinions students claimed were “transphobic”. The university has now been advised by Akua Reindorf, an investigating barrister, to review its relationship with Stonewall, which, she said, “appears to have given university members the impression that gender critical academics can legitimately be excluded from the institution”.
What is the charity I helped to found doing, getting entangled in attempts to deny free speech at a university? This column should avoid getting into the trans debate itself. My single, tight focus is on this question: why Stonewall?
There’s something perversely 20th-century about linking gays to trans. Gay men do not want to be women. We like being men. I doubt that being a lesbian is about not wanting to be a woman. Our issues have nothing to do with identification or changing our bodies: we know what we are and nobody disputes it. Most gay men would strongly resist the suggestion we’re boys who want to be girls. I can’t think of anything I’d like less. The whole history of the gay liberation movement is inseparable from what people do rather than what they are. Central to trans concerns is being, not doing. The one thing that links gays and lesbians with trans people is empathy with anyone excluded, oppressed, marginalised or rejected. Indeed this was what influenced some gay groups into supporting the 1984-5 miners’ strike, and Stonewall was perhaps drawn into the trans arguments because a group was fighting for what it considers to be its rights.
But this has led it straight into a confrontation with another such group: feminists. Stonewall should have stood clear. Now it seems to have dived into the judicial issue of whether would-be trans children can consent to chemical or surgical intervention. This is not something on which gays, lesbians or bisexuals can speak with greater authority than any other citizen. I repeat: it has nothing to do with us.
Perhaps the truth is that, after success in our great 20th-century drive for equality, Stonewall was left with bricks and mortar, an admirable staff, a CEO and a fund-raising team and, unconsciously, craved another big, newsworthy cause. Well, sometimes a big army with only small battles to fight does best simply to scale back. I know many gay men have become embarrassed by Stonewall and see (as I do) the paradox that some of its activities are actually damaging the standing of the gay community. We don’t want to be associated with sallies in the trans wars. We want to feel proud, not hurt, not victims. Trans people cannot yet feel that: they need a support group. But that’s for them. Gays (to use the lingo) should not be colonising their issues.
I’ve mentioned on these pages before a new Stonewall initiative, entitled “Decolonising Queer Leadership Programme”, a “3-part programme for LGBT people of colour, who want to develop their skills in creating lasting change in their communities and build collective power through challenging society’s constructed power norms”.
Ye gods, how did we get here?
Stonewall should stay out of trans rights war
The organisation I helped found has lost its way since winning gay equality and is mired in an issue that isn’t its concern
Matthew Parris
Saturday May 22 2021, 12.01am BST, The Times
Imagine (in my case the effort is minimal) you are a gay man, and open about it. Thirty years ago this would have brought huge difficulties, attracted hostility, excluded you from many careers, and made you feel almost an exile in your own country.
Things have changed — and how! Broadly speaking life in Britain has been normalised for you. Yes, you may still face raised eyebrows and residual prejudice; there remain anomalies and you’re aware there’s further progress to be made in shifting attitudes in (for instance) schools, churches, ethnic minority communities and the world of sport. But frankly these are details. Today you can marry, be a tinker, tailor, soldier, spy. Or MP. There’s no crushing sense of victimisation. You do not feel society is against you.
You hear talk of “identities” but your gay identity overlaps with so many others you feel that it needn’t define you. Nevertheless, as “a member of the gay community” (a fiction that can make you grind your teeth) you may feel there’s still a need for an organisation to speak up for gay men and lesbian women’s rights and needs: to do “outreach” work in British schools and workplaces, and maybe abroad where your fellowgays still face the gallows. You might join and pay your subs to such an organisation.
I did — until last year. I was one of that organisation’s fourteen founders. Stonewall, formed on May 24, 1989, was set up during the furore over Section 28 of the local government act, engineered by a Tory government to ban the “promotion” of homosexuality. Most of us founders had been part of an ad-hoc group to oppose the legislation. I remember well the windowless little lounge where previously we’d met in the gay nightclub, Heaven, under the railway arches at London’s Charing Cross station. We were the guests of its proprietor, Richard Branson. I remember the advice and support we got from outsiders like Peter Mandelson, and our sorrowful defiance when Section 28 became law. A defiance that led to that gathering on May 24.
I remember, too, the sense of solidarity between stalwarts such as Ian McKellen (kindly, conciliatory and shrewd) and Lisa Power (punchy, motherly and fun). I remember Michael Cashman (he of the first gay kiss in EastEnders): thoughtful, civil, and empathetic. We didn’t always agree on aims (I was for reducing the age of male homosexual consent from 21 to 18; the majority were for full equality at 16, so 16 it was) but the big thing we wanted — for gay men and lesbian women to come out of the shadows and into the sun — was so clear and strong that our differences melted in its glare. We rented a little office, engaged a CEO, and Stonewall was launched.
Monday marks the 32nd anniversary of that Wednesday in 1989. But Stonewall has lost its way. The sun we all thought we saw has gone behind clouds of anger, intolerance and partisanship. The organisation is tangled up in the trans issue, cornered into an extremist stance on a debate that a charity formed to help gay men, lesbian women and bisexual people should never have got itself into.
You may have seen the latest on this in The Times on Thursday (“Stonewall ‘gave bad advice’ to university in free speech row”). A nasty little spat. After complaints from students, and advice from Stonewall, Essex : two women whose opinions students claimed were “transphobic”. The university has now been advised by Akua Reindorf, an investigating barrister, to review its relationship with Stonewall, which, she said, “appears to have given university members the impression that gender critical academics can legitimately be excluded from the institution”.
What is the charity I helped to found doing, getting entangled in attempts to deny free speech at a university? This column should avoid getting into the trans debate itself. My single, tight focus is on this question: why Stonewall?
There’s something perversely 20th-century about linking gays to trans. Gay men do not want to be women. We like being men. I doubt that being a lesbian is about not wanting to be a woman. Our issues have nothing to do with identification or changing our bodies: we know what we are and nobody disputes it. Most gay men would strongly resist the suggestion we’re boys who want to be girls. I can’t think of anything I’d like less. The whole history of the gay liberation movement is inseparable from what people do rather than what they are. Central to trans concerns is being, not doing. The one thing that links gays and lesbians with trans people is empathy with anyone excluded, oppressed, marginalised or rejected. Indeed this was what influenced some gay groups into supporting the 1984-5 miners’ strike, and Stonewall was perhaps drawn into the trans arguments because a group was fighting for what it considers to be its rights.
But this has led it straight into a confrontation with another such group: feminists. Stonewall should have stood clear. Now it seems to have dived into the judicial issue of whether would-be trans children can consent to chemical or surgical intervention. This is not something on which gays, lesbians or bisexuals can speak with greater authority than any other citizen. I repeat: it has nothing to do with us.
Perhaps the truth is that, after success in our great 20th-century drive for equality, Stonewall was left with bricks and mortar, an admirable staff, a CEO and a fund-raising team and, unconsciously, craved another big, newsworthy cause. Well, sometimes a big army with only small battles to fight does best simply to scale back. I know many gay men have become embarrassed by Stonewall and see (as I do) the paradox that some of its activities are actually damaging the standing of the gay community. We don’t want to be associated with sallies in the trans wars. We want to feel proud, not hurt, not victims. Trans people cannot yet feel that: they need a support group. But that’s for them. Gays (to use the lingo) should not be colonising their issues.
I’ve mentioned on these pages before a new Stonewall initiative, entitled “Decolonising Queer Leadership Programme”, a “3-part programme for LGBT people of colour, who want to develop their skills in creating lasting change in their communities and build collective power through challenging society’s constructed power norms”.
Ye gods, how did we get here?
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Wow, some savage responses to that campaign. People really are getting fed up with companies stooping to these tactics for $€£¥.
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Twitter's pro-LGBT+ ad campaigns are becoming quite heavily censored. Last night i repeatedly received an Aussie ad showing nursing home services are becoming LGBT+ friendly.
There were a few critical responses, including me asking what they will do about transmen with dementia who forget their gender identity. All these responses were deleted, including below the line.
This is an issue on my heart because in the 90s when I worked in a "wanderers unit" (locked section of a nursing home where dementia patients could move freely but not wander away) an elderly man had to be transferred to a local psychiatric hospital after he had raped a fellow female resident.
I doubt very much if any of these people have thought much about straight men lashing out against gay men trying to make a move on them. Dementia often removes the social inhibitions but not the physical strength.
There were a few critical responses, including me asking what they will do about transmen with dementia who forget their gender identity. All these responses were deleted, including below the line.
This is an issue on my heart because in the 90s when I worked in a "wanderers unit" (locked section of a nursing home where dementia patients could move freely but not wander away) an elderly man had to be transferred to a local psychiatric hospital after he had raped a fellow female resident.
I doubt very much if any of these people have thought much about straight men lashing out against gay men trying to make a move on them. Dementia often removes the social inhibitions but not the physical strength.
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Pure child abuse dressed up as tolerance
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Pedophilic Indoctrination at its finest.
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This could be the start of something good if the policy's move gains momentum....
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The more this type of picture becomes public, the more the average Joe will pull back from supporting LGBTQ+ movement.
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more and more countries are refusing self ID, France, Britain and now Japan are refusing it. Hopefully more people are rejecting the perversion.
Also this week the Halifax pride in Canada threw a tantrum on twitter and broke a partnership with Halifax library from its festival because the library refused to ban a book that is critical of trans ideology. Seems they are taking the Nazi route or tried. the comments on their twitter announcement gives me hope. Many people have rejected the pride festivals attempt to censor and control what people read.
Also this week the Halifax pride in Canada threw a tantrum on twitter and broke a partnership with Halifax library from its festival because the library refused to ban a book that is critical of trans ideology. Seems they are taking the Nazi route or tried. the comments on their twitter announcement gives me hope. Many people have rejected the pride festivals attempt to censor and control what people read.
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More indoctrination for children. This time a children's TV show has a character with top scars. For those not in the know, top scars are the scars left over from removing healthy breasts from girls and women who decide they are trans men.
They put this in a children's TV show. It's pure indoctrination.
They put this in a children's TV show. It's pure indoctrination.
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Wtf? This was not normal when I was growing up.
it’s an agenda. Sick.
Or maybe we’re just getting old and crotchety
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Smh. Wtf is wrong with people today. This is why some kids grow up angry and shoot up schools. This fantasty of more than two genders is messing up a lot of kids.