LGBT+ movement starting to backfire (part 2)

kerrichinchilla

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That’s one version.

Here’s another: Feminism came into being because some “marginalized” women were sold a cultural Marxist fiction centered around hating what they had and wanting what men had. Now feminists have their idealized world and are still unsatisfied. Sounds just like transgenderism.
What i state is not ''a version'' it's reality. It's clear you just have a bias against feminism based on the classic anti-feminist rhetoric that hasnt changed for over 100 years.
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For one if you knew feminist history properly you would know that first wave or suffrage was actually quite conservative. In fact, many suffrgettes hated second wave feminism and the sexual revolution. They were also anti marxist. They fought for their rights becasue they wanted teh right to be a part of the political and social dealings in their countries, which in cluded voting, buying, selling, be able to use doctors or even be a doctor, they were mostly pro capitalism. They just wanted teh right to choose for themselves, not to be beaten or raped legally, or to be locked up in asylums when a husband or father didnt want her around any more, the right to an education, the right to own money, buy or rent a house and have job security.

Second wave was less capitalist BUT only slightly. The whole burning the bra thing was a myth dreamt up by journalists, the closest you can get is during a beauty pagent oin the 1970s women wanted to burn aprons but couldnt get a purmit so instead placed aprons in a bin. Additionally, second wave fought for workers rights, ALL workers male and female, in many countries women workers contributed to walk outs, in some countries like Switerland they pretty much shut the country down leading to better working conditons, benefits and rights. The Uk saw introductions of maternity leave, manditory holidays of 28 days a year, later paternity leave, health and safety laws and other work benfits. Second wave feminists were at the forefront of these introductions. Which actually contributed to capitalism.

Third wave WAS about consumption, dressing, make up, buying and image. Its very capitalistic, the 80s business woman, female libertation through indepeant working. There was nothing remotely marxist about it. IT was about being the equal if not the same as men, women acting and looking like men.

Fourth wave which is the current wave of feminism has however split in two. There is liberal feminism, which is mostly about trans rights and yes is more marxist in nature. Then there is radical feminism which is a return to second wave ideals.
 






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What i state is not ''a version'' it's reality. It's clear you just have a bias against feminism based on the classic anti-feminist rhetoric that hasnt changed for over 100 years.
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For one if you knew feminist history properly you would know that first wave or suffrage was actually quite conservative. In fact, many suffrgettes hated second wave feminism and the sexual revolution. They were also anti marxist. They fought for their rights becasue they wanted teh right to be a part of the political and social dealings in their countries, which in cluded voting, buying, selling, be able to use doctors or even be a doctor, they were mostly pro capitalism. They just wanted teh right to choose for themselves, not to be beaten or raped legally, or to be locked up in asylums when a husband or father didnt want her around any more, the right to an education, the right to own money, buy or rent a house and have job security.

Second wave was less capitalist BUT only slightly. The whole burning the bra thing was a myth dreamt up by journalists, the closest you can get is during a beauty pagent oin the 1970s women wanted to burn aprons but couldnt get a purmit so instead placed aprons in a bin. Additionally, second wave fought for workers rights, ALL workers male and female, in many countries women workers contributed to walk outs, in some countries like Switerland they pretty much shut the country down leading to better working conditons, benefits and rights. The Uk saw introductions of maternity leave, manditory holidays of 28 days a year, later paternity leave, health and safety laws and other work benfits. Second wave feminists were at the forefront of these introductions. Which actually contributed to capitalism.

Third wave WAS about consumption, dressing, make up, buying and image. Its very capitalistic, the 80s business woman, female libertation through indepeant working. There was nothing remotely marxist about it. IT was about being the equal if not the same as men, women acting and looking like men.

Fourth wave which is the current wave of feminism has however split in two. There is liberal feminism, which is mostly about trans rights and yes is more marxist in nature. Then there is radical feminism which is a return to second wave ideals.
Imho, man-hating is futile.

Equal rights were inevitable in a civilized society. It was men who granted them.
 






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Imho, man-hating is futile.

Equal rights were inevitable in a civilized society. It was men who granted them.
I don't think feminists hate men per se, they are jealous of men's superiority hence why they seek to impose the "privileges" men have onto women instead of imposing the rights of women on men. The jealousy cannot be assuaged however as the feminists will never be equal to men except in some illusory civic sense.
 






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I don't think feminists hate men per se, they are jealous of men's superiority hence why they seek to impose the "privileges" men have onto women instead of imposing the rights of women on men. The jealousy cannot be assuaged however as the feminists will never be equal to men except in some illusory civic sense.
men's superiority

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I don't think feminists hate men per se, they are jealous of men's superiority hence why they seek to impose the "privileges" men have onto women instead of imposing the rights of women on men. The jealousy cannot be assuaged however as the feminists will never be equal to men except in some illusory civic sense.
Men and women are not supposed to be "equal" to each other, they both have distinct advantages and disadvantages. That doesnt mean that equitable egalitarianism isnt possible though...
 






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He did a standup special where he pointed out the absurdity of the modern LGBT culture (such as the impossibility of even disagreeing that men have penis' and women have vaginas) and cancel culture especially, then he got cancelled for it (which is not even ironic).
Plus he talked about how abusive the trans lobby is, pointing out they bullied a trans friend of his to the point they committed suicide. At least he's peaking loads more people over how insidious this cult is.
 






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Men didn't grant anything women took their rights by using force and proving themselves as eqaul
Lol. That doesn’t fit the narrative that women were or are oppressed. Oppressed people are incapable of taking anything by force: they are oppressed.

Feminist logic is funny.

To think that the patriarchy didn’t grant women equal rights is dumbfuckery.
 






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Plus he talked about how abusive the trans lobby is, pointing out they bullied a trans friend of his to the point they committed suicide. At least he's peaking loads more people over how insidious this cult is.
Such bs and without a shred of self-awareness. I wonder if these people can even comprehend the concept of nuance. :rolleyes:
 






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This advert is disgusting. Ignoring the fact the kid is wearing dresses altogether. Who is alright with this boy destroying a house and personal objects, taking his sisters paints and throwing them around, throwing an umbrella which could of hurt her, and the sister and mother just sitting there passively allowing it.

This advert encourages abusive and destructive behaviour form boys and men, while showing women and girls just accepting it as ok/
 






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This advert is disgusting. Ignoring the fact the kid is wearing dresses altogether. Who is alright with this boy destroying a house and personal objects, taking his sisters paints and throwing them around, throwing an umbrella which could of hurt her, and the sister and mother just sitting there passively allowing it.

This advert encourages abusive and destructive behaviour form boys and men, while showing women and girls just accepting it as ok/
It was made by homosexuals who hate women
 






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This advert is disgusting. Ignoring the fact the kid is wearing dresses altogether. Who is alright with this boy destroying a house and personal objects, taking his sisters paints and throwing them around, throwing an umbrella which could of hurt her, and the sister and mother just sitting there passively allowing it.

This advert encourages abusive and destructive behaviour form boys and men, while showing women and girls just accepting it as ok/
According to the woke team, men were toxic and we should have been against it?
 






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Men didn't grant anything women took their rights by using force and proving themselves as eqaul
I don't know if you're aware of Aaron Russo (Filmmaker, political activist - he's dead now, many suspect he was killed off). This is a short bit of Aaron talking about a conversation he had with Nick Rockefeller, who became a friend of his, regarding the primary reasons for women's lib:

 






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