Leonardo DiCaprio - Groomer??

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Im not sure which of my points you were addressing.

I personally am one of those women that dont care much about the man's physical appearance. But the idea of being with a man 10, 15, 20+ years more than me when i was 18-20s was absolutely repulsive. Now im in my 30s and been married for years, so i dont entertain the thought, but it would probably be less gross because i am less of a child mentally.

Im not much of a "science " person, but didnt they find that the frontal cortex of the brain doesn't fully mature until the late 20s? A 20 year old is in many ways still a girl mentally, even though her body has gone through puberty. While an attraction to her wouldnt make a man a p3d0, there is a huge power imbalance there.

As for it being done that way always, in the past a girls family, specifically her father, would have had a say in who she would marry. Im not arguing for or against said practice, but im just saying that it is different from a modern girl just out of high school getting hit up by a bunch of old losers that couldn't catch a girl in her 20s when THEY were in their 20s.

People in their 40s, 50s etc have little in common with 20 year olds. They are past their prime physically, not just attraction wise but also physical activity level. Men's life expectancy is shorter than women's as it is. Unless he is very wealthy and doesnt force a prenup i just cant see how a much younger woman doesnt get screwed over in this situation, especially if he leaves young kids for her to raise alone. Because now she's no longer a 20 year old woman but a 30 something single mom, and the kind of men that like them super young are the same kind of men that tell each other to avoid women with kids.
You know I'm in my twenties. Just couple of weeks ago, someone in their fifties (a man) calling me his close friend and try to befriend me. It was bizzare for me. Because few years back a man almost double my age who was married was into me and doing some repulsive shit. The point is that trauma got renewed and I hate it when older men hit younger women. It's disgusting. Pathetic people.
 
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You know I'm in my twenties. Just couple of weeks ago, someone in their fifties (a man) calling me his close friend and try to befriend me. It was bizzare for me. Because few years back a man almost double my age who was married was into me and doing some repulsive shit. The point is that trauma got renewed and I hate it when older men hit younger women. It's disgusting. Pathetic people.
This is happening more and more it seems. I sadly had the same experience in my 20s. Why on earth would they ever think we would like that? Sure some women love older men, but not twice their age! Ten years, max! This is just getting out of hand. They need to back off!
 
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due to child bearing and the complexities which comes with it.
Translation: those kids just wont sleep!
Well, thats how mine are at least lol

Also to mention here about ED in men which is though not very common but becoming prevalent due to diseases such as diabetes also exposure to pornography at an early age is the reason
At first i thought you meant eating disorders and i was thinking, yeah thats true i think cases of eating disorders in males have been rising and yeah it could be because of porn. While its not as common as in girls, some boys do struggle with body image related issues.

But then i realized i think you meant er*ctile dysfunctin. Oops.
Western women are more oppressed where there are often single mother single-handedly raise kids. Still these delusional men go after younger women, this world is messed up.
I agree that single moms have it much harder. When men give each other advice to avoid single moms, often while they themselves have abandoned a woman with their child it is just despicable.
 

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Wrong.
If we're going by the Bible, Rachel was the "beautiful" sister but struggled to have 2 kids (and died in childbirth) while her "unattractive" sister kept popping those kids out. Beauty does not indicate fertility. Thats just something men with ridiculous standards make up so they can justify their predatory behavior.
I never said beauty indicates fertility. But beauty is often based in markers of fertility i. e. Youth so supple skin, thick hair, curves etc.

I know youre not talking to me, but i am married and i find men going after women half their age to be disturbing. Its not about a "beauty standard", its about them preying on an immature mind. These men don't just want them young for beauty and fertility, its about being able to brainwash them too.
I'm aware lol but to pretend that physical attractiveness has nothing to do with it is being disengenuous.

You're speaking for yourself. Men may be visual and have the ability to have x ray vision when looking at women (not saying this is right but i know they do) but some of us, particularly women do notice the personality first. Things like body language, confidence level, mannerisms all fall under personality.
I'm speaking for most women lol. You don't speak to everyone you meet and get to know them first, and the things you mentioned are rarely what most people notice first.

But who funds these studies? Studies can and often are manipulated to get the results the researchers want.
And all i ever see is men complaining about being single/incel because theynhave these ridiculous hih standards and think they are entitled to a young attractive woman when they are not young and attractive. Perhaps these men need a reality check instead of people justifying their flawed rationales.
It's not just studies. I have a brother, male cousins, friends, Co workers etc. I speak to men lol. I don't care for entitlement, all I did was point out that youth and beauty are typically primary things men look at when it comes to women. That's not a conspiracy. Leo Di Caprio is another topic altogether though.
 
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Can we keep the topic on Leo. Create another thread for woke sex/gender conversations. thanks.
Lol, but we are discussing on "the topic" as how is it repulsive of men to date younger women. We are not the one to call Le* a groomer, so why you think we are the ones who are indulged in woke discussion. Beside that, if you've watched other threads, everyone gets drifted from the topic for a while during a heated discussion. But we are pretty much on point.
 
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Translation: those kids just wont sleep!
Well, thats how mine are at least lol


At first i thought you meant eating disorders and i was thinking, yeah thats true i think cases of eating disorders in males have been rising and yeah it could be because of porn. While its not as common as in girls, some boys do struggle with body image related issues.

But then i realized i think you meant er*ctile dysfunctin. Oops.

I agree that single moms have it much harder. When men give each other advice to avoid single moms, often while they themselves have abandoned a woman with their child it is just despicable.
Lol yeah. Child bearing and caring for them is so hectic. Also the physical complications which I was previously mentioning.
Lol yes, I was pointing towards erectil* dy*function. You know now studies show, around 40% of men in their forties experiences it due to various factors. Not every man is rich but they dream of a young woman.
Talking about Leo specifically, I think his abnormal lifestyle as it was mentioned in the video posted that he was the only child and his parents gets divorced just after he was born. Also his early fame and his association with pedophil*s, I can't expect from him a normal conjugal married life.
 

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Lol yeah. Child bearing and caring for them is so hectic. Also the physical complications which I was previously mentioning.
Lol yes, I was pointing towards erectil* dy*function. You know now studies show, around 40% of men in their forties experiences it due to various factors. Not every man is rich but they dream of a young woman.
Talking about Leo specifically, I think his abnormal lifestyle as it was mentioned in the video posted that he was the only child and his parents gets divorced just after he was born. Also his early fame and his association with pedophil*s, I can't expect from him a normal conjugal married life.
I don't put stock in any celebrities to have normal, healthy relationships tbh. Removing the conspiracy angle from Hollywood, they're people who live in excessive luxe and lust. Their appetites arent reflective of normal people which is why seeing so many try and follow their behavior (men and women) is sad. Also, that video of LDC and that older man is disturbing but far from uncommon, unfortunately.
 
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I don't put stock in any celebrities to have normal, healthy relationships tbh. Removing the conspiracy angle from Hollywood, they're people who live in excessive luxe and lust. Their appetites arent reflective of normal people which is why seeing so many try and follow their behavior (men and women) is sad. Also, that video of LDC and that older man is disturbing but far from uncommon, unfortunately.
Agreed. It's almost every other celebrity. They have all their dark secrets. Either it's johnny depp or Will Smith. Very few are happily long term married. I don't think Le* is a closeted gay, may be he thinks with that amount if money, women are throwing themselves at him, also the glamour. So why don't make the most of it and just live it without a responsibility as he never actually experienced a normal family life in his early life anyway. It is very much plausible.
 

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It's Hollywood and isn't representative of the whole world. But if the average Joe had the ressources to pull a younger model he damn sure would. Leo is living the fantasy a lot of men would like to emulate but could never. Idk what could attract a young woman to an old out-of-shape actor, except the fame, contacts, since most of the models he dates end up gettign roles after they get with him.
The problem with fantasies is that they aren't good for longevity. Women have their own fantasies as well that most men will never attain. But humans ultimately crave longevity and stability. Look at this situation for example. Let's say there's nothing sinister or deeper about this whole phenomenon in Hollyweird/Richboyville. These women aren't enough to satisfy these men. They get cheated on like it's nothing. If we believe men are still human beings in need of deeper emotional connection to be happy in their relationships then it stands to reason that they don't have the healthiest relationships. It would get boring fast. Men who pull women by superficial standards will rarely be loved as people, they're just as dehumanized as the women who are chosen for their youth and beauty only.

Which goes to demonstrate Wanderlust's point abt heterosexual relationships being inherently transactional. Women will "submit" to a man who either provides financially, or will protect them physically from other men.
ALL relationships are transactional to some degree. The only reason hetero relationships seem more so is because they've been the foundational unit of society since time immemorial. There's usually the possibility of growing the next generation within a straight relationship, which is something not present in gay ones. But gay couples are not exempt from the same (if not worse in the case of gay male courting practices) superficial exchanges/standards. There are plenty of examples of this among famous people as well. It's not about orientation, it's about individual materialism.
 

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I always like Dicaprio as an actor. I have several movies with him on my must-watch list (btw, I've recently rewatched Aviator by link). As for his girlfriends, I guess, it's only his business. It's a question of his preferences. Also, why are the girls that date him not the creeps then? They choose to date a much older rich successful guy over a young attractive average guy.
 
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I always, always believed that Leo,apart from being a bad actor,was Martin Scorsese's toyboy. And I also believe that the latter was(maybe still is) the Grand Magus of Hollywood (he is maybe the biggest fan of the absolute weirdo, Kenneth Anger).Of course I might be wrong, because the last time I watched a Hollywood movie was like a century ago,lol. From what I've seen though,Leo seemed like a totally talentless but certainly pretty young man. I wouldn't call him a good actor. (And Martin Scorsese is such a creepy guy -all his movies are about violence)
 
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