Leonardo DiCaprio - Groomer??

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But i dont hate men, or think women are superior, or blame "patriarchy" for things. I think tptb have different types of propaganda marketed to different groups, and just how theyre telling women to objectify themselves they simultaneously are telling men to see women as objects. While also running the "look as unnapealing as possible" programming. No wonder people are so confused!
It's sad when people also automatically assume and put labels on you before even hearing your argument. I got sick of being labeled feminist for not wanting to be unnatural. It surely is very confusing and they know what they are doing by constantly confusing the masses so they don't have any idea of where to go. It's like you said in the woke television thread, the same people that are promoting the political correctness are the same that are doing the satanism symbols in media. It's not word for word, but it's true when these different types of programming are all coming from the top elite satanists.


It is true that men have been hurt by feminism, but this objectifying of women and using them as disposable objects is not the answer.
Exactly. They don't see that trying to be the better person and not repeating the mistakes of the so called enemy of theirs. This objectification solves nothing and makes us women feel like this is our only value..it's sad to think of the cage we live in because we are always looked at as things instead of people.


Always trying to force each other to conform to "social norms" which often nust means programming by the elites.
And this is why I can dislike women more than men, sometimes. With women, there should be no excuse to be doing this to each other and feeding our literal slavery. Just makes no sense..if we ever try to call this out, they just attack instead of understand, so we can help them break out of it.


but since the 2000s when they started glorifying p*rn wh*res as "stars", putting them on primetime tv and referring to them as "models" that's when things started getting so much worse. Thats when the "its empowering to be half naked!" narrative really got going. Its obviously all programming.

Serves the depop agenda too. Men that are being incels because theyre too picky to settle for anything less than these airbrushed fake women end up single and angry.
Exactly..things really took an even nastier turn at this point. It's so hard to believe these women are put on such a pedestal and the men just eat it up. It's very true how this is serving the depop agenda big time, more and more people are becoming single because of this, and sadly due to the feminism. This definitely goes both ways.
And the whole empowerment thing, well, we know our stances on that LOL.


Yes, and women who dont wear makeup or spend all this time and money on their fake nails and hair and stuff.

Its always "only fat/ugly/"low-value" women feel this way, they say. So dumb.
I get so sick of this argument. And when I posted about the hypocrisy of fitness, at first all I was getting was, "but it's wrong to be obese!" But I wasn't even talking about obesity whatsoever LOL.


Its conditioning people to want to live in this "perfect" airbrushed world that doesnt exist, at least not outside the metaverse. Which is where they want people to be...
Exactly, those things are absolutely horrific. I'm glad I never actually used one of those, plus they can spy and trace your face with that app. They are promoting metaverse and transspecies agendas, along with going against your privacy!


think ive seen someone do it but i wasnt able to figure it out.
Oh? That's cool! I hope we can figure it out! I feel so bad we are threadjacking LOL sorry to the OP! We apologize! We should get back on topic!
 

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But that's the thing, IF we're at our physical best in our 20s, why are men in their 40s and 50s going after women that are 20?

Thats not an even match. It seems predatory.

Im aware that leonardo di caprio is a very wealthy and famous man. But everyday middle class men are trying to pull of the same thing too. If a 40-50 years old man is not even rich what does he have to offer a very young woman? Men die younger than women as it is. No sane woman would want to be a 35-40 year old widow right?

Also, super unpopular opinion time lol
- physical attraction is not required for a marriage to work, if there is enough personality attraction to compensate for it. Feel free to disagree everyone.

Back to di caprio, wasnt he hitting on jeff bezos wife or ex wife not too long ago? I dint think she was that young but i gotta go fact check myself.
Also to mention here about ED in men which is though not very common but becoming prevalent due to diseases such as diabetes also exposure to pornography at an early age is the reason. Men so conveniently forget this simple truth. Actually most women looks older due to child bearing and the complexities which comes with it. Western women are more oppressed where there are often single mother single-handedly raise kids. Still these delusional men go after younger women, this world is messed up.
 

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Because men tend to place more value on physical attraction. That's a fact. Women are visual too but the sexes prioritize different things in dating and even marriage. For most men, looks are the top priority. It doesn't mean they don't look at anything else or that nothing else matters (to normal, well adjusted men that is). But there's nothing wrong with wanting to be attracted to your partners looks as well as their souls.
Well women don't like wrinkly men too.
 

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Im not sure which of my points you were addressing.

I personally am one of those women that dont care much about the man's physical appearance. But the idea of being with a man 10, 15, 20+ years more than me when i was 18-20s was absolutely repulsive. Now im in my 30s and been married for years, so i dont entertain the thought, but it would probably be less gross because i am less of a child mentally.

Im not much of a "science " person, but didnt they find that the frontal cortex of the brain doesn't fully mature until the late 20s? A 20 year old is in many ways still a girl mentally, even though her body has gone through puberty. While an attraction to her wouldnt make a man a p3d0, there is a huge power imbalance there.

As for it being done that way always, in the past a girls family, specifically her father, would have had a say in who she would marry. Im not arguing for or against said practice, but im just saying that it is different from a modern girl just out of high school getting hit up by a bunch of old losers that couldn't catch a girl in her 20s when THEY were in their 20s.

People in their 40s, 50s etc have little in common with 20 year olds. They are past their prime physically, not just attraction wise but also physical activity level. Men's life expectancy is shorter than women's as it is. Unless he is very wealthy and doesnt force a prenup i just cant see how a much younger woman doesnt get screwed over in this situation, especially if he leaves young kids for her to raise alone. Because now she's no longer a 20 year old woman but a 30 something single mom, and the kind of men that like them super young are the same kind of men that tell each other to avoid women with kids.
You know I'm in my twenties. Just couple of weeks ago, someone in their fifties (a man) calling me his close friend and try to befriend me. It was bizzare for me. Because few years back a man almost double my age who was married was into me and doing some repulsive shit. The point is that trauma got renewed and I hate it when older men hit younger women. It's disgusting. Pathetic people.
 

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You know I'm in my twenties. Just couple of weeks ago, someone in their fifties (a man) calling me his close friend and try to befriend me. It was bizzare for me. Because few years back a man almost double my age who was married was into me and doing some repulsive shit. The point is that trauma got renewed and I hate it when older men hit younger women. It's disgusting. Pathetic people.
This is happening more and more it seems. I sadly had the same experience in my 20s. Why on earth would they ever think we would like that? Sure some women love older men, but not twice their age! Ten years, max! This is just getting out of hand. They need to back off!
 

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due to child bearing and the complexities which comes with it.
Translation: those kids just wont sleep!
Well, thats how mine are at least lol

Also to mention here about ED in men which is though not very common but becoming prevalent due to diseases such as diabetes also exposure to pornography at an early age is the reason
At first i thought you meant eating disorders and i was thinking, yeah thats true i think cases of eating disorders in males have been rising and yeah it could be because of porn. While its not as common as in girls, some boys do struggle with body image related issues.

But then i realized i think you meant er*ctile dysfunctin. Oops.
Western women are more oppressed where there are often single mother single-handedly raise kids. Still these delusional men go after younger women, this world is messed up.
I agree that single moms have it much harder. When men give each other advice to avoid single moms, often while they themselves have abandoned a woman with their child it is just despicable.
 

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Wrong.
If we're going by the Bible, Rachel was the "beautiful" sister but struggled to have 2 kids (and died in childbirth) while her "unattractive" sister kept popping those kids out. Beauty does not indicate fertility. Thats just something men with ridiculous standards make up so they can justify their predatory behavior.
I never said beauty indicates fertility. But beauty is often based in markers of fertility i. e. Youth so supple skin, thick hair, curves etc.

I know youre not talking to me, but i am married and i find men going after women half their age to be disturbing. Its not about a "beauty standard", its about them preying on an immature mind. These men don't just want them young for beauty and fertility, its about being able to brainwash them too.
I'm aware lol but to pretend that physical attractiveness has nothing to do with it is being disengenuous.

You're speaking for yourself. Men may be visual and have the ability to have x ray vision when looking at women (not saying this is right but i know they do) but some of us, particularly women do notice the personality first. Things like body language, confidence level, mannerisms all fall under personality.
I'm speaking for most women lol. You don't speak to everyone you meet and get to know them first, and the things you mentioned are rarely what most people notice first.

But who funds these studies? Studies can and often are manipulated to get the results the researchers want.
And all i ever see is men complaining about being single/incel because theynhave these ridiculous hih standards and think they are entitled to a young attractive woman when they are not young and attractive. Perhaps these men need a reality check instead of people justifying their flawed rationales.
It's not just studies. I have a brother, male cousins, friends, Co workers etc. I speak to men lol. I don't care for entitlement, all I did was point out that youth and beauty are typically primary things men look at when it comes to women. That's not a conspiracy. Leo Di Caprio is another topic altogether though.
 

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Can we keep the topic on Leo. Create another thread for woke sex/gender conversations. thanks.
Lol, but we are discussing on "the topic" as how is it repulsive of men to date younger women. We are not the one to call Le* a groomer, so why you think we are the ones who are indulged in woke discussion. Beside that, if you've watched other threads, everyone gets drifted from the topic for a while during a heated discussion. But we are pretty much on point.
 

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Translation: those kids just wont sleep!
Well, thats how mine are at least lol


At first i thought you meant eating disorders and i was thinking, yeah thats true i think cases of eating disorders in males have been rising and yeah it could be because of porn. While its not as common as in girls, some boys do struggle with body image related issues.

But then i realized i think you meant er*ctile dysfunctin. Oops.

I agree that single moms have it much harder. When men give each other advice to avoid single moms, often while they themselves have abandoned a woman with their child it is just despicable.
Lol yeah. Child bearing and caring for them is so hectic. Also the physical complications which I was previously mentioning.
Lol yes, I was pointing towards erectil* dy*function. You know now studies show, around 40% of men in their forties experiences it due to various factors. Not every man is rich but they dream of a young woman.
Talking about Leo specifically, I think his abnormal lifestyle as it was mentioned in the video posted that he was the only child and his parents gets divorced just after he was born. Also his early fame and his association with pedophil*s, I can't expect from him a normal conjugal married life.
 

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Lol yeah. Child bearing and caring for them is so hectic. Also the physical complications which I was previously mentioning.
Lol yes, I was pointing towards erectil* dy*function. You know now studies show, around 40% of men in their forties experiences it due to various factors. Not every man is rich but they dream of a young woman.
Talking about Leo specifically, I think his abnormal lifestyle as it was mentioned in the video posted that he was the only child and his parents gets divorced just after he was born. Also his early fame and his association with pedophil*s, I can't expect from him a normal conjugal married life.
I don't put stock in any celebrities to have normal, healthy relationships tbh. Removing the conspiracy angle from Hollywood, they're people who live in excessive luxe and lust. Their appetites arent reflective of normal people which is why seeing so many try and follow their behavior (men and women) is sad. Also, that video of LDC and that older man is disturbing but far from uncommon, unfortunately.
 

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I don't put stock in any celebrities to have normal, healthy relationships tbh. Removing the conspiracy angle from Hollywood, they're people who live in excessive luxe and lust. Their appetites arent reflective of normal people which is why seeing so many try and follow their behavior (men and women) is sad. Also, that video of LDC and that older man is disturbing but far from uncommon, unfortunately.
Agreed. It's almost every other celebrity. They have all their dark secrets. Either it's johnny depp or Will Smith. Very few are happily long term married. I don't think Le* is a closeted gay, may be he thinks with that amount if money, women are throwing themselves at him, also the glamour. So why don't make the most of it and just live it without a responsibility as he never actually experienced a normal family life in his early life anyway. It is very much plausible.
 

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It's Hollywood and isn't representative of the whole world. But if the average Joe had the ressources to pull a younger model he damn sure would. Leo is living the fantasy a lot of men would like to emulate but could never. Idk what could attract a young woman to an old out-of-shape actor, except the fame, contacts, since most of the models he dates end up gettign roles after they get with him.
Exactly but a lot of women like money lol.
Which goes to demonstrate Wanderlust's point abt heterosexual relationships being inherently transactional. Women will "submit" to a man who either provides financially, or will protect them physically from other men.
I think everyone is naturally beautiful at 20.
yiiikes, I'm in college and can assure you that's not the case. But surely, that's when you're at your peak appearance-wise, which i guess is what you meant.
I wouldn’t call a man who dates other adults a groomer, even if they’re young adults. That’s not fair. I think sexualizing children and minors is wrong and the lines between adult and minor shouldn’t be blurred.
hm, I think people were accusing him of grooming because he allegedly already knew his last gf when she was 12 or something. So knowing how Hollywood works, there is a chance he could have groomed her ever since that age.
 

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It's Hollywood and isn't representative of the whole world. But if the average Joe had the ressources to pull a younger model he damn sure would. Leo is living the fantasy a lot of men would like to emulate but could never. Idk what could attract a young woman to an old out-of-shape actor, except the fame, contacts, since most of the models he dates end up gettign roles after they get with him.
The problem with fantasies is that they aren't good for longevity. Women have their own fantasies as well that most men will never attain. But humans ultimately crave longevity and stability. Look at this situation for example. Let's say there's nothing sinister or deeper about this whole phenomenon in Hollyweird/Richboyville. These women aren't enough to satisfy these men. They get cheated on like it's nothing. If we believe men are still human beings in need of deeper emotional connection to be happy in their relationships then it stands to reason that they don't have the healthiest relationships. It would get boring fast. Men who pull women by superficial standards will rarely be loved as people, they're just as dehumanized as the women who are chosen for their youth and beauty only.

Which goes to demonstrate Wanderlust's point abt heterosexual relationships being inherently transactional. Women will "submit" to a man who either provides financially, or will protect them physically from other men.
ALL relationships are transactional to some degree. The only reason hetero relationships seem more so is because they've been the foundational unit of society since time immemorial. There's usually the possibility of growing the next generation within a straight relationship, which is something not present in gay ones. But gay couples are not exempt from the same (if not worse in the case of gay male courting practices) superficial exchanges/standards. There are plenty of examples of this among famous people as well. It's not about orientation, it's about individual materialism.
 
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