Kpop Satanic/Illuminati Influence

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I found this and I was surprised to see m1nho here so ig he could be from some big wealthy family that 5m wanted him so bad it makes me feel bad for other sh1nee members though who had to go through some of the toughest auditions to be accepted.
 

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I legit cannot recognize k3y sometimes these days he looks way different then his debut years his skin color, nose, jawline is so different either he abused plastic surgery or he was cloned I have never thought of M1nho in that sense but it is kind of true that he came from a well off family when compared to other members and he mostly became famous for his looks and personality even if sh@wols would like to believe otherwise I also remember M1nho's Grandfather passed away last year so ig it is possible that they sacrificed his grandfather for their success that would explain the increase in promo for O, M and K post enlistment. I think T@emin has abandonment issues I just feel it from his behavior in past few years and Jj0ng's death aggravated those issues he seems overly attached to sh1nee members and fans the constant "Don't cheat on me" thing made me worried he could've developed Stockholm syndrome for real and I think he is handled by someone who he believes is a person who cares about him it is not uncommon for abused people to remain in abusive relationships because of fear of being abandoned, left alone and isolated. J Knew about it somehow his Hyeya performance from 2012 shows him bleeding and dying at the end he probably knew that he will be eliminated one day but had no Idea of the exact time it would happen I have a feeling his thriller novel was going to be about this and 5m sacrificed him to stop him from publishing that novel because it would expose the dark things happening in the industry
on a side note I think Sh1nee's concept was extremely creepy they were a group of young boys 4/5 minors at the time of debut who were marketed to an older female audience and I will go on and say they were marketed towards old men too especially the youngest 2 members because they used to do gay fanservice shows in their earlier years as well the first variety show 5m sent them to was about them dating older women in late 20s which is gross because T@emin was only 14 at that time and let's not forget the fact that he was the most heavily sexualized member in sh1nee despite being the youngest and having the fact sh@wols were celebrating the day he turned 18 because he was "Legal" now is extremely disturbing I am baffled that no one bat an eye at what 5m was doing with them at that time and instead praised it as them being forward thinking that's how you protect perverts and promote p***philia
this discussion is very interesting, thank you guys for bringing all of this up. i agree that when key got his nose job, it felt like it wasn't the key we knew. his personality has changed ever since then. whenever i come across content of him i get an unsettling feeling, like he's a clone. he feels off. i also agree with the taemin stockholm syndrome thing... the fact that he outright said that Criminal was about his split personas (idol taemin vs lee taemin), the suffering he gets from being famous yet still being thankful for the pain made me question everything. during the time of his comeback i was starting to get weary of the satanic things in the world and seeing shawols giggling and thinking about how Criminal was about taemin being kinky and sultry made me want to throw up. i deeply hope that kpop fans will wake up. i also remember tm wearing red shoes in the ngda act 1 photobook which reminded me of the elites wearing red shoes. ngda is tm's most satanic/masonic comeback to date
 

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idk if i'm the only one who feels this way but lately minho has really proven himself to be the least talented member. i thought this when i was a shawol and shoved it to the back of my head (because how dare i belittle a man who doesn't know i exist) but he's basically confirming this for me now. he's just holding fanmeetings and doing mediocre magic mike dances and singing songs he doesn't have the range for. then he occasionally plays soccer with his famous dad who probably sacrificed people too. he really is just a "good looking" idol
 

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Also during yeonjuns part in the song he says he'll "give love to the dogs forever" and he "bleeds monochrome diamonds instead of blood" and makes a gesture pointing towards one eye... could the "dogs" he gives "love" to possibly be the elites controlling them and the diamonds be a reference to jewel programming diamond status?
I wanted to add something I noticed in the MV related to jewel programming symbolism i mentioned. In the window shop where yeonjun throws an object at it says "we buy gold diamonds"... could this be further hinting at his diamond status?
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Exactly!! And T has me *so* worried these days. I'm worried November/December 2022 will be just like Dec 2017. Some "insider" made tweets about how SM should be careful when sending idols to the military and that SM has secrets that will get kpop banned in the near future...

I just don't want T to be another blood sacrifice. I have detached from celebrity culture for the most part, but I still care about all 5 of them as people so if something were to happen it'd be pretty devastating. T has a lot of young fans and I'd hate for something to happen to them.

It haunts me how fans turned a blind eye to the "he was finishing a novel" right before he passed. There is so much he wanted to do, and for people to just close the door on his life doesn't feel right. What I find most odd, is that on cr@zydaysandnights, there are quite a few kpop posts, but there is nothing about J. They posted about S_lli's passing, but nothing about J. And he passed during a time where cdan was posting a lot of kpop rumors. It's like an empty space.

I think marketing them to older women was almost like... a diversion. The majority of women usually don't ""like"" young boys which is why most of the women on that show treated them like kids (they had to teach) except for the ones closest in age to the older members. But there was so much suspect stuff going on between the members and older men back in the early days. St@r King and Flower Boys Generation... there are things fans laughed at back then but on twitter some are now seeing that it wasn't all good and fun. I'm glad for that, I just hope they will realize that what happened to J, and what is happening to T, is not normal. T has been treated like "bait" all his life. But now he's bait for something else, something even worse... And the majority of people are willingly pushing for the taboo.
Agree they treat T like a product and it's worse because they used the classic pure religious church going teen off stage and sex symbol onstage strategy used by Jive record on britney spears with him so now he has these overprotected fangirls who have a meltdown whenever he gets under 10 feets distance to a female idol I honestly don't think 5m had any plans to make T their golden at the time of debut 5m is more interested in visuals like Jaejoong, Sehun, Irene, Taeyong etc they only planned to use him for fanservice it was only after he showed incredible growth in his vocals and stage presence that they started citing him as their "Ace". I hope nothing like December 2017 is ever repeated with anyone I don't follow sh1nee very closely anymore but still I wouldn't want anything bad to happen to them IRL but I don't think T is suicidal his comrades in military did not share anything about him practicing self harm they instead said he was trying his best to hold on and get better so if God forbid something bad happens to him it will be 5m's dirty work. There is also that one dream T talked about in 2016 that I remember in that he said he saw jj0ng could not perform at one concert because he was "Sick" with "Flu" and T was anxious all throughout performance and at the end he got sick and his manager came and told him he should go see a dr because he seems to have caught the same "flu" as jj0ng this whole thing is so sus I think everything that happened with J was planned a long time ago maybe before they even debuted Its sad that fans chose to ignore so many suspicious things even the Dr didn't get cancelled for blaming J for having depression I have suspicions that J could've been killed through overmedication like MJ too that way 5m could easily cover it up and save their name
I think it was this one post and it made me worried for him and all other 5m boys in the military because this clearly hints at jj0ng, goo hara and sull1 really being killed by 5m and this kind of did turn out to be true I am also worried about x-0 members and other 5m idols now because they can be targeted and killed at any time.
 

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I wanted to add something I noticed in the MV related to jewel programming symbolism i mentioned. In the window shop where yeonjun throws an object at it says "we buy gold diamonds"... could this be further hinting at his diamond status?
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maybe. we all know that yeonjun is the most popular member of txt, being an “all rounder,” and the “4th gen it boy.” he also had the longest training time if I’m correct. considering this it’s possible he’s at a diamond status, or a level close to that.
 
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this discussion is very interesting, thank you guys for bringing all of this up. i agree that when key got his nose job, it felt like it wasn't the key we knew. his personality has changed ever since then. whenever i come across content of him i get an unsettling feeling, like he's a clone. he feels off. i also agree with the taemin stockholm syndrome thing... the fact that he outright said that Criminal was about his split personas (idol taemin vs lee taemin), the suffering he gets from being famous yet still being thankful for the pain made me question everything. during the time of his comeback i was starting to get weary of the satanic things in the world and seeing shawols giggling and thinking about how Criminal was about taemin being kinky and sultry made me want to throw up. i deeply hope that kpop fans will wake up. i also remember tm wearing red shoes in the ngda act 1 photobook which reminded me of the elites wearing red shoes. ngda is tm's most satanic/masonic comeback to date
idk if i'm the only one who feels this way but lately minho has really proven himself to be the least talented member. i thought this when i was a shawol and shoved it to the back of my head (because how dare i belittle a man who doesn't know i exist) but he's basically confirming this for me now. he's just holding fanmeetings and doing mediocre magic mike dances and singing songs he doesn't have the range for. then he occasionally plays soccer with his famous dad who probably sacrificed people too. he really is just a "good looking" idol
Agree they treat T like a product and it's worse because they used the classic pure religious church going teen off stage and sex symbol onstage strategy used by Jive record on britney spears with him so now he has these overprotected fangirls who have a meltdown whenever he gets under 10 feets distance to a female idol I honestly don't think 5m had any plans to make T their golden at the time of debut 5m is more interested in visuals like Jaejoong, Sehun, Irene, Taeyong etc they only planned to use him for fanservice it was only after he showed incredible growth in his vocals and stage presence that they started citing him as their "Ace". I hope nothing like December 2017 is ever repeated with anyone I don't follow sh1nee very closely anymore but still I wouldn't want anything bad to happen to them IRL but I don't think T is suicidal his comrades in military did not share anything about him practicing self harm they instead said he was trying his best to hold on and get better so if God forbid something bad happens to him it will be 5m's dirty work. There is also that one dream T talked about in 2016 that I remember in that he said he saw jj0ng could not perform at one concert because he was "Sick" with "Flu" and T was anxious all throughout performance and at the end he got sick and his manager came and told him he should go see a dr because he seems to have caught the same "flu" as jj0ng this whole thing is so sus I think everything that happened with J was planned a long time ago maybe before they even debuted Its sad that fans chose to ignore so many suspicious things even the Dr didn't get cancelled for blaming J for having depression I have suspicions that J could've been killed through overmedication like MJ too that way 5m could easily cover it up and save their name
I think it was this one post and it made me worried for him and all other 5m boys in the military because this clearly hints at jj0ng, goo hara and sull1 really being killed by 5m and this kind of did turn out to be true I am also worried about x-0 members and other 5m idols now because they can be targeted and killed at any time.
You're welcome! Yeah kpop stans pretty much ignore anything if it doesn't make them feel "good" in some way. I've been a fan since 2012, even though I don't ""know"" them, I can still see the changes in their personalities pretty well. Like you said, K is just "off". And he's my second favorite member but he's so incredibly "off" now that I can't even enjoy his content fully. Sometimes I describe it as him looking like his mind is faraway, but other times he looks uncomfortable or even in physical pain... I don't know.

The split personas concept in a celebrity is very common and people still don't want to look deeper into this pattern. T has had many people (from sm town personnel to fans) push different personas on him, it's understandable why he feels this way. T has never had control over his life. He's been in this since he was 11. And if it's true that celebrities are "chosen" from birth, everyone adult around him, failed him miserably.

SM wanted J to be their golden, but his personality ended up being very rebellious to the point where SM couldn't control him like they can T. T admires J a lot, and so I know it must bring him anxiety that he could end up like him too.

I like M but he has always been more of a male socialite than someone with tons of talent.

They really could have over medicated J... The whole year of 2017 was very off. From almost the very beginning. J seemed very uncomfortable most of that year, so to get him at a place and time where they could overmedicate him would take him having trust in them. He was very guarded unlike the earlier years. And I personally feel like a lot of stories were made up to add legitimacy to the suicide. Stories about what his therapist/doctor may have said to him and stories about his last note.

"SM must pay back again without attracting attention" their souls are literally being sold and 99% of fans have no clue. I just know this year is not going to end without SM paying... whatever the price is.
 

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I legit cannot recognize k3y sometimes these days he looks way different then his debut years his skin color, nose, jawline is so different either he abused plastic surgery or he was cloned I have never thought of M1nho in that sense but it is kind of true that he came from a well off family when compared to other members and he mostly became famous for his looks and personality even if sh@wols would like to believe otherwise I also remember M1nho's Grandfather passed away last year so ig it is possible that they sacrificed his grandfather for their success that would explain the increase in promo for O, M and K post enlistment. I think T@emin has abandonment issues I just feel it from his behavior in past few years and Jj0ng's death aggravated those issues he seems overly attached to sh1nee members and fans the constant "Don't cheat on me" thing made me worried he could've developed Stockholm syndrome for real and I think he is handled by someone who he believes is a person who cares about him it is not uncommon for abused people to remain in abusive relationships because of fear of being abandoned, left alone and isolated. J Knew about it somehow his Hyeya performance from 2012 shows him bleeding and dying at the end he probably knew that he will be eliminated one day but had no Idea of the exact time it would happen I have a feeling his thriller novel was going to be about this and 5m sacrificed him to stop him from publishing that novel because it would expose the dark things happening in the industry
on a side note I think Sh1nee's concept was extremely creepy they were a group of young boys 4/5 minors at the time of debut who were marketed to an older female audience and I will go on and say they were marketed towards old men too especially the youngest 2 members because they used to do gay fanservice shows in their earlier years as well the first variety show 5m sent them to was about them dating older women in late 20s which is gross because T@emin was only 14 at that time and let's not forget the fact that he was the most heavily sexualized member in sh1nee despite being the youngest and having the fact sh@wols were celebrating the day he turned 18 because he was "Legal" now is extremely disturbing I am baffled that no one bat an eye at what 5m was doing with them at that time and instead praised it as them being forward thinking that's how you protect perverts and promote p***philia
I thought that was seriously weird how they were basically sold to the start in the way of being more available to older women and men, and of course SM sees no problem with that. Ta3m1n was so little, and I know that the elites basically fuel off of minors. It’s disgusting. Ta3m1n reminds me of a lost child with no identity, it’s beyond heartbreaking what has been done and how no one really saw the signs with that group. What do they need to attract older people for? If they’re going to have a partner, why not be their age? I don’t know. With Shin33, they did something so blatant. They like to leave little clues about who they actually are, but they know the public won’t really question it because they’re fixated on the music and visuals to look at what’s really going on.
 

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I thought that was seriously weird how they were basically sold to the start in the way of being more available to older women and men, and of course SM sees no problem with that. Ta3m1n was so little, and I know that the elites basically fuel off of minors. It’s disgusting. Ta3m1n reminds me of a lost child with no identity, it’s beyond heartbreaking what has been done and how no one really saw the signs with that group. What do they need to attract older people for? If they’re going to have a partner, why not be their age? I don’t know. With Shin33, they did something so blatant. They like to leave little clues about who they actually are, but they know the public won’t really question it because they’re fixated on the music and visuals to look at what’s really going on.
Taemin is like Bts Jungkook ,both start very young and both passed around
 
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Do you think they're not letting go of that garam girl because they want it to be 6 members? Still I can't help but wonder but if the whole scandal was scripted or something, I don't know at all. I know that bullies exist though
 

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Only 51k people watching Shinee's 14th debut anniversary today on youtube I watched the 13th Anniversary live and I remember the number being higher than 100k the drop is probably because of T not being present but 51k is pretty low for 75% of active members in the group Ig O,M and K aren't really that popular despite the massive promo they are receiving sh1nee is a has been group at this point
 
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The disrespect to Jjong this wasn't just a joke but a coordinated effort to erase jjong so baby sh@wols don't learn about him :mad:
I can't believe how K could say that what is he trying to say why pick 2017 is he claiming he is embarrased by jjong?? and shawols still think he was in love with jjong I smell some jealousy from them :mad:
 
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Do you think they're not letting go of that garam girl because they want it to be 6 members? Still I can't help but wonder but if the whole scandal was scripted or something, I don't know at all. I know that bullies exist though
they begin promoting the group with 5 members apparently
 

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The disrespect to Jjong this wasn't just a joke but a coordinated effort to erase jjong so baby sh@wols don't learn about him :mad:
I can't believe how K could say that what is he trying to say why pick 2017 is he claiming he is embarrased by jjong?? and shawols still think he was in love with jjong I smell some jealousy from them :mad:
that's actually very weird???? why tf would key say that
 

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The disrespect to Jjong this wasn't just a joke but a coordinated effort to erase jjong so baby sh@wols don't learn about him :mad:
I can't believe how K could say that what is he trying to say why pick 2017 is he claiming he is embarrased by jjong?? and shawols still think he was in love with jjong I smell some jealousy from them :mad:
And everyone in the quote retweets are focused on K1bum and saying that he does not need to be embarrassed of the way he looks, when it’s just weird he would say such a statement for the sh@wols to only focus on 2017 and later content. Not that, “I look better recently than I did back then.” That was weird, and it kind of shows what I was thinking about K1bum before.
 

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I wanted to add something I noticed in the MV related to jewel programming symbolism i mentioned. In the window shop where yeonjun throws an object at it says "we buy gold diamonds"... could this be further hinting at his diamond status?
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Yes. He’s diamond status. Anytime they show it, that’s what they mean.
 
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