I only know about sun and rising signs. Sun sign is your core self and rising sign is the mask you wear or how people perceive you Sun sign is the one we are assigned according to birth date and rising sign is determined by your time of birth. It's like that girl on BT5 thread was saying that these kpop idols use symbolism associated with their zodiac signs she talked about GD, Beyonce and MJ having Leo rising in vedic astrology so they always showed the "King" and "sun" symbols frequently in their MVs she talked about V having Pisces sun and how he is portrayed as having a "Duality" onstage and offstage. Madonna is also a Leo sign I think and she used a lot of sun symbolism in her music too for e.g Ray of light I am not familiar with the stereotypes associated with all signs but I am a Scorpio Sun by Birth so I know the stuff Scorpios are stereotyped for and t@emin's onstage persona as a soloist gives me pure "Scorpio rising" vibes but we don't know Sh1nee member's birth times so this is just a guess The typical characteristics associated with Scorpio Rising are: Dark, queit, alluring, and Mysterious (pretty much describes his usual persona as a soloist) Sensual (no need for explanation)Transformation, death and rebirth the Phoenix motif (This was pretty much the theme of his 3rd album NGDA act1 and 2 plus advice and flame of love where he becomes a phoenix) They are said to have intense, intimidating gaze (he's famous for having penetrating gaze, The criminal clip you shared earlier he has that intimidating, intense gaze) Obsessive, Passionate (self explanatory man is a workaholic and almost "obsessed" with wanting to be better artist) Possessive (Kept telling fans "Not to cheat on him" prior to his his military service) Secretive and Private (One of the most private idols in the industry very rarely shares any info about his personal life) Taylor swift is also Scorpio rising and she used snake symbolism for one of her tours (snakes are associated with Scorpio sign too interestingly t@emin also had snakes for want MV) and her music is all about her being obsessed and possessive about her Boyfriends so I guess there is a possibility that these idols and celeb are "assigned" personalities according to their zodiac signs since the elites love astrology and it is one of the occult sciences like tarot