Kpop Satanic/Illuminati Influence

[Asahi]

I have a theory about this autopsy controversy. Our jj0ng could have been on drugs. In fact, I think all idols could be using some kinda drugs - energy boosters steriods and stimulants - Otherwise how would ya explain them performing such high energy dances on stage while on extreme diets to maintain their unrealistic Korean dream figures. Anyways back to jj0ng, he could have been too. He was so painfully thin with sunken cheeks which could have been due to drug use. It was most likely SM decision to not do the autopsy to hide this reality. Doing autopsy would expose not just Jj0ng but also every other idols drugs culture.

Often time I have come across rumours of managers procuring these drugs for idols use. I have also read reports on how celebs do coke and such to maintain their thin body shapes. Sull1 was also rumoured to be a substance user and I believe they did not do her autopsy as well. Also G0 h@ra. Sull1, H@ra and our jj0ng were friend who did things together. Jj0ng was also close with 1ron, another drug user. So... its simple math.

Others from their friends circle - 1u, Taey0ng, Yer1, they all lost weight drastically. 1u shared her crazy diet plan to explain her weight loss but the way she was trying so hard to explain only proves she tryna hide the real secret.

Fun fact: Use of drugs to control weight was revealed by the very bony Kate M0ss herself. Long long time ago, she said she and all her fella models were all high when they walk the runway.

Being a drug consumer is considered a shame in places like Sk,this could be the reason why his family didn't wanted to do autopsy ,because Jjong family will damage his reputation.
Do you think the coal briquette suicide is a cover up for overdose ?

 

[Aamy]

yes it's well known that models use cocaine to remain thin

Don't forget cigarettes. You loose weight too. It cuts your appetit

 

[Asahi]

Don't forget cigarettes. You loose weight too. It cuts your appetit

Jonghyun smoked cigarettes too

 

[5hawol]

Being a drug consumer is considered a shame in places like Sk,this could be the reason why his family didn't wanted to do autopsy ,because Jjong family will damage his reputation.

Exactly. His mum is conservative Christian and she will lost face in her community if they find out unconservative things about her son.

Gosh... I hate writing about such Jj0ng facts. Wish we can just let him rest in peace.

J0nghyun, our Angel, you did well. We love you and you live forever in our hearts. RIP

 

[e-Enoch]

I have a theory about this autopsy controversy. Our jj0ng could have been on drugs. In fact, I think all idols could be using some kinda drugs - energy boosters steriods and stimulants - Otherwise how would ya explain them performing such high energy dances on stage while on extreme diets to maintain their unrealistic Korean dream figures. Anyways back to jj0ng, he could have been too. He was so painfully thin with sunken cheeks which could have been due to drug use. It was most likely SM decision to not do the autopsy to hide this reality. Doing autopsy would expose not just Jj0ng but also every other idols drugs culture.

Often time I have come across rumours of managers procuring these drugs for idols use. I have also read reports on how celebs do coke and such to maintain their thin body shapes. Sull1 was also rumoured to be a substance user and I believe they did not do her autopsy as well. Also G0 h@ra. Sull1, H@ra and our jj0ng were friend who did things together. Jj0ng was also close with 1ron, another drug user. So... its simple math.

Others from their friends circle - 1u, Taey0ng, Yer1, they all lost weight drastically. 1u shared her crazy diet plan to explain her weight loss but the way she was trying so hard to explain only proves she tryna hide the real secret.

Fun fact: Use of drugs to control weight was revealed by the very bony Kate M0ss herself. Long long time ago, she said she and all her fella models were all high when they walk the runway.

This is a very sensible theory and it could be a fact. The assumptions are logical enough, esp that drug use in the industry is an "open secret..."

 

[5hawol]

Don't forget cigarettes. You loose weight too. It cuts your appetit

Yep, cigarettes too. A former idol Shannon Williams exposed this. She is half Korean half UK and she was popular around 2016-17. I shared it here a long time back. She said most idols, both male and female smoke to suppress hunger.

 

[e-Enoch]

I have a theory about this autopsy controversy. Our jj0ng could have been on drugs. In fact, I think all idols could be using some kinda drugs - energy boosters steriods and stimulants - Otherwise how would ya explain them performing such high energy dances on stage while on extreme diets to maintain their unrealistic Korean dream figures. Anyways back to jj0ng, he could have been too. He was so painfully thin with sunken cheeks which could have been due to drug use. It was most likely SM decision to not do the autopsy to hide this reality. Doing autopsy would expose not just Jj0ng but also every other idols drugs culture.

Often time I have come across rumours of managers procuring these drugs for idols use. I have also read reports on how celebs do coke and such to maintain their thin body shapes. Sull1 was also rumoured to be a substance user and I believe they did not do her autopsy as well. Also G0 h@ra. Sull1, H@ra and our jj0ng were friend who did things together. Jj0ng was also close with 1ron, another drug user. So... its simple math.

Others from their friends circle - 1u, Taey0ng, Yer1, they all lost weight drastically. 1u shared her crazy diet plan to explain her weight loss but the way she was trying so hard to explain only proves she tryna hide the real secret.

Fun fact: Use of drugs to control weight was revealed by the very bony Kate M0ss herself. Long long time ago, she said she and all her fella models were all high when they walk the runway.

This is a very sensible theory and it could be a fact. The assumptions are logical enough, esp that drug use in the industry is an "open secret..."

 

[Aamy]

Yep, cigarettes too. A former idol Shannon Williams exposed this. She is half Korean half UK and she was popular around 2016-17. I shared it here a long time back.

Ah Korean idols mindset.. aren't allowed to be shown that they are smoking, because of some scandals, but they all do it I am sure. Ridiculous

 

[arhur12]

I have a theory about this autopsy controversy. Our jj0ng could have been on drugs. In fact, I think all idols could be using some kinda drugs - energy boosters steriods and stimulants - Otherwise how would ya explain them performing such high energy dances on stage while on extreme diets to maintain their unrealistic Korean dream figures. Anyways back to jj0ng, he could have been too. He was so painfully thin with sunken cheeks which could have been due to drug use. It was most likely SM decision to not do the autopsy to hide this reality. Doing autopsy would expose not just Jj0ng but also every other idols drugs culture.

Often time I have come across rumours of managers procuring these drugs for idols use. I have also read reports on how celebs do coke and such to maintain their thin body shapes. Sull1 was also rumoured to be a substance user and I believe they did not do her autopsy as well. Also G0 h@ra. Sull1, H@ra and our jj0ng were friend who did things together. Jj0ng was also close with 1ron, another drug user. So... its simple math.

Others from their friends circle - 1u, Taey0ng, Yer1, they all lost weight drastically. 1u shared her crazy diet plan to explain her weight loss but the way she was trying so hard to explain only proves she tryna hide the real secret.

Fun fact: Use of drugs to control weight was revealed by the very bony Kate M0ss herself. Long long time ago, she said she and all her fella models were all high when they walk the runway.

I agree with your assumptions I think drug use maybe common among idols in fact I have my own theory that crazy (guilty pleasure) could be about drugs, or y'know a kind of guilty pleasure to reduce the pain he felt from depression. Jjong was depressive by nature it is plausible that he used drugs to suppress the pain. and you are right about his connections with 1ron a drug user he did have connections with some very shady people but again I'd feel uncomfortable talking about these things now that he's gone so let's just avoid the topic and remember him for the good things he did pray for him and let him rest in peace. However I would also like to add another point to the autopsy controversy this is not common in western countries and some people may find it strange but in some asian countries families avoid doing autopsy of the dead body because they think it is a disrespect of the dead person's body I can attest because this is the case in my country (I am from a conservative country in Asia) I have heard some rumors about Korean people not having the culture of doing autopsy because it is considered shameful his family is religious and conservative I suspect they might have avoided the autopsy for this reason too

 

[arhur12]

N1ng n1ng is so pretty. I don't get why w1nter is the visual of the group. To me w1nter looks like a twink boy. She could be male to female trans. Kar1na has stage presence, sure, but her face is so small and her neck so long.... like a praying mantis. G1selle is getting prettier and prettier. I think N1ngn1ng and G1selle looks the most natural and sensual. Kar1na is like a doll - very pretty and so nicely sculpted to perfection but when pitched against more natural and healthier looking N1ngn1ng and G1selle, sensual duo N1ngning and G1selle wins hands down

I agree kar1na looks too pretty like unreal and plastic and w!nter is the latest bo@ clone in 5m I prefer n1ngn1ng and g1selle they look more natural and approachable

 

[queen82]

Don't forget cigarettes. You loose weight too. It cuts your appetit

depends , my brother smoking but he didn't lose weights

 

[Aamy]

depends , my brother smoking but he didn't lose weights

Yes thanks to precised it . It can depends of your morphology and metabolism etc...

 

[Asahi]

N1ng n1ng is so pretty. I don't get why w1nter is the visual of the group. To me w1nter looks like a twink boy. She could be male to female trans. Kar1na has stage presence, sure, but her face is so small and her neck so long.... like a praying mantis. G1selle is getting prettier and prettier. I think N1ngn1ng and G1selle looks the most natural and sensual. Kar1na is like a doll - very pretty and so nicely sculpted to perfection but when pitched against more natural and healthier looking N1ngn1ng and G1selle, sensual duo N1ngning and G1selle wins hands down

Ningning is one of the less promoted,the favorite are K@rina,and Winter,despite Winter seems Boa/Taeyon,and Karina face is unreal,she was different before plastic surgery(I saw a video about her from the yt who V wants to sue),and there are rumours about her being bully,dating others collegues ,and thinking to be the best

 

[Asahiisback]

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[arhur12]

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[arhur12]

Well personally I would no longer consider myself a fan because when I was a fan I found it hard to question or criticise any of the things the members did and I find it can turn into a form of hero worship if you’re not careful. Like often fan culture is quite toxic especially if you have a different view from the majority of fans. So I stepped away from that but I still love their music and find them entertaining. I’m not sure if you saw but I wrote about my views on burning sun on the bt$ thread about how I think $eungri isn’t actually totally guilty and he’s a scapegoat/ or it’s a humiliation ritual. I actually used to hate the guy (I discovered bb after bs) but now he’s honestly the only member I sort of like still. The thing with t@eyang is he seems pure cause he‘s religious but I believe t@eyang was involved in a lot of occult stuff since he’s had many successful songs and used a lot of symbolism in them and we know about gd being into occult haha that’s doesn’t need much explaining. I don’t know really about d@seung. I too hoped t@eyang and d@esung would leave the industry but I believe bb might be coming back at coachella in 2022 so I guess not. That’s why I think there’s only hope for 5eungri as he left the industry so maybe now he will realise how corrupt it is and how shallow the people in it are and will stay away for good. I hope his scandal served as a wake-up call for him. If the rest are coming back they’re clearly long gone. Personally I find key’s diva persona hilarious haha but as you said there’s a strong chance he’s completely different in real life, afterall many idols have different personalities offscreen. T@emin is a talented guy I really really hope if he is involved in the occult stuff he’s just a victim and he will one day leave but you know abuse can mess with your mind so it would be hard for him to do that. Interesting, so do you think some of the things in his music videos people read here as occult linked might just be religious instead? Also surely if it is Illuminati signs he has no choice but to put the occult symbolism in his videos, like the ceo of sm wouldn’t let him refuse right (they could sabotage his solo work) so maybe it wasn’t even his idea? Yes it’s really scary people are literally murdered for this stuff. Btw have you heard of Isaac kappy (if you haven’t he was a minor actor killed for speaking out)? Ugh why did it have to happen to j0nghyun, he’s legit my favourite idol even though $hinee isn’t my ultimate group. It’s so unfair what happened, I wish he never joined that evil industry. Same I really pray it will happen but sometimes it feels hopeless. About whether they’re forced tbh I only feel sorry for those who joined as kids e.g. t@emin, jk etc. If you’re an adult and you do it I don’t feel sympathy, they know what they’re signing up for.

Well I am not that familiar with BB bcz I never stanned them the first MV I saw of them was fantastic baby and the symbolism creeped me out then I heard about burning sun and it was over for me never tried to get into them after that you may be right in saying that T@eyang and D@esung are long gone I have heard rumors about a possible BB comeback next year solo or group but I believe they are trying to be careful to avoid any negative backlash from seungr1's case. I hated seungr1 before too but I have learned from some korean and other kpop discussion forums that he wasn't even that involved in the case at best he was a low ranking minion who was sabotaged to save much bigger and powerful people so I now think he may have been framed as a villain and he's not as bad as he is portrayed hope he repents now that he is out of the industry.

 

[arhur12]

Well personally I would no longer consider myself a fan because when I was a fan I found it hard to question or criticise any of the things the members did and I find it can turn into a form of hero worship if you’re not careful. Like often fan culture is quite toxic especially if you have a different view from the majority of fans. So I stepped away from that but I still love their music and find them entertaining. I’m not sure if you saw but I wrote about my views on burning sun on the bt$ thread about how I think $eungri isn’t actually totally guilty and he’s a scapegoat/ or it’s a humiliation ritual. I actually used to hate the guy (I discovered bb after bs) but now he’s honestly the only member I sort of like still. The thing with t@eyang is he seems pure cause he‘s religious but I believe t@eyang was involved in a lot of occult stuff since he’s had many successful songs and used a lot of symbolism in them and we know about gd being into occult haha that’s doesn’t need much explaining. I don’t know really about d@seung. I too hoped t@eyang and d@esung would leave the industry but I believe bb might be coming back at coachella in 2022 so I guess not. That’s why I think there’s only hope for 5eungri as he left the industry so maybe now he will realise how corrupt it is and how shallow the people in it are and will stay away for good. I hope his scandal served as a wake-up call for him. If the rest are coming back they’re clearly long gone. Personally I find key’s diva persona hilarious haha but as you said there’s a strong chance he’s completely different in real life, afterall many idols have different personalities offscreen. T@emin is a talented guy I really really hope if he is involved in the occult stuff he’s just a victim and he will one day leave but you know abuse can mess with your mind so it would be hard for him to do that. Interesting, so do you think some of the things in his music videos people read here as occult linked might just be religious instead? Also surely if it is Illuminati signs he has no choice but to put the occult symbolism in his videos, like the ceo of sm wouldn’t let him refuse right (they could sabotage his solo work) so maybe it wasn’t even his idea? Yes it’s really scary people are literally murdered for this stuff. Btw have you heard of Isaac kappy (if you haven’t he was a minor actor killed for speaking out)? Ugh why did it have to happen to j0nghyun, he’s legit my favourite idol even though $hinee isn’t my ultimate group. It’s so unfair what happened, I wish he never joined that evil industry. Same I really pray it will happen but sometimes it feels hopeless. About whether they’re forced tbh I only feel sorry for those who joined as kids e.g. t@emin, jk etc. If you’re an adult and you do it I don’t feel sympathy, they know what they’re signing up for.

k3y is a genius on variety he's one of the funniest idols I've seen and we enjoy his sassy diva persona but he is a sensitive and kind person off stage he and jj0ng were the concert criers in the group and both were very close so we wish to believe he is a genuine person like the others.
I like T@emin's music he is my favorite dancer in kpop so I really want him to break out too but I don't think 5m would ever let him leave. I am not Catholic myself but from the limited research I did on Christian and catholic iconography to decode his MVs and from stuff he has said in his interviews and behind the scenes it appears he has not gone the Madonna route of mocking Christianity yet bcz Christianity is portrayed as good in his music but he goes overboard sometimes with the religious symbolism and it ends up becoming sacrilegious for some apart from that he has used the consistent theme of a bad alter ego vs good innocent alter ego fighting for control since his first album in his music which I believe to be a hint at his monarch programming so he is a mixed bag some MVs it seems like he is trying to break free from his programming and exposing the industry other he seems to be deeply involved in the occult (I suggest if you dive into T@emin's solo you should check some of his less known tracks like under my skin, Pinnochio, door and the recently released just me and you VCR in which he shows a much more sincere side of himself) but one thing that makes me want to believe that he is a victim is that our beloved j0nghyun was very supportive of him he called himself the president of T@emin fanclub and T@emin's Mom and always defended him when he was mocked for something I believe j0nghyun wasn't so blind that he would support someone who was an evil person and as some people here believe about sh1nee and T@em to be involved in his murder it doesn't make sense for me why he would show so much support and love for his members if indeed they were deeply involved in the occult and wanted to sacrifice him j0nghyun was such a beautiful soul he spoke for so many social issues like mistreatment of women in kpop, mental health stigma, minority rights, other social issues like human rights violations in palestine etc there was really no one like him it's such a loss and he was such a talented vocalist no one in kpop has been able to move me like him with his vocals it's sad that we don't have him here anymore it breaks my heart that he had to be sacrificed for the evil agenda of the elites' but I pray he rests in peace now. You did well J0nghyun!!

 

[arhur12]

Fair enough, I completely understand what you mean. I wasn’t as knowledgeable about all the symbolism when I first discovered them so I didn’t see it but now I recognise fantastic baby is full of it. Complete with the owl, the 6 finger pose etc. Yes exactly what you said is right he really was. I feel kind of bad for the guy cause he joined the industry when he was very young like many of these idols but same I pray he will repent and truly become a better person. He did say I’ll be reborn in court. Yep you’re right, I think they don’t want to be connected to the guy at all lol so much for being brothers and stuff, I realise that stuff in kpop groups is pretty fake now. Funnily enough I think $hinee‘s bond might be genuine though, maybe j0nghyun’s passing strengthened it even more.

I think they are secretly ot5 but won't support him publicly bcz of backlash however it's sad how deep they have gone especially GD I read one of his interviews recently and he was pushing the gender neutral lgbt/bi agenda he really seems to have accepted the occult agenda I thought at first that he was a victim too bcz he was young too when he was scouted and he said some things about GD and kwon ji young being alter egos but now I feel like he is aware and voluntarily pushing these agendas like other western artists like beyonce, madonna, harry styles, celine Dion etc
Sh1nee do seem more genuine than BB and it is kind of strange bcz they used to say they had a business relationship and not like other groups where all say they are like brothers but the way they handled everything after jj0ng's death proves that their bond is strong I know some people have said and keep saying that they should've disbanded after jj0ng's passing and k-netz even accused them of using jj0ng's death to gain publicity and sympathy points however being a sh@wol and jj0ng fan I am happy they decided to continue bcz it helps other people discover him through sh!nee I myself only discovered him last year I feel bad for not getting into his music when he was alive bcz I do remember reading news about his death in 2017 and watching the funeral but I did not pay much attention to it at that time bcz kpop was foreign to me but I am glad I got to know him now and appreciate his wonderful art and personality

 

[arhur12]

I never would have guessed that, thanks for telling me. He is ridiculously entertaining, I have watched like k*y funniest moments videos haha but one thing I do remember is him at j0nghyun’s funeral, he seemed genuinely distraught. All the members did but him in particular so I don’t think his reaction was fake. Great great dancer so fluid and a hard worker, he can sing and dance superbly. You could never call the guy overrated, he deserves all the appreciation. Ah ok thats good to hear, maybe he is stuck in the occult but tries to practice Christianity in hopes it will give him the strength to one day get out. I’ve listened to his music but never really watched his music videos so you know what I’m going to look at the ones you recommended. I’m glad he has a religion, I’m sure it brings him great support. he is in the military atm right? Maybe he will be able to question the industry when he’s in there as he gets a taste of normal life? This is all fascinating what you say about t@emin, I really had no idea about any of this. I honestly thought before that he was a talented Illuminati poster boy and ‘the evil one’ of $hinee. j0nghyun after all knew the real t@emin so perhaps I should base my view of him off how j0nghyun looked at him. And we can see he really loved him, i think t@emin is more vulnerable than some people on this forum believe and I absolutely believe he went through all these mental torture programs like mk ultra etc. Tbh many of these idols are kind of victims only a few in my opinion are high ranking abusers themselves. It’s the heads of these entertainment companies that are the real evil ones tricking and abusing these naive kids who join their companies. It makes me sick how idols are getting younger and younger. J0nghyun yes he was never afraid to stand up for what he believed in even if he risked losing popularity. I remember seeing on YouTube him at a fansign and the way he interacted with fans you could see he wasn’t fake, he really loved them and cared to listen to them. He certainly did well, just think he’s in a better place now, far-away from the evils he was surrounded by.

You are right I don't think many idols have that much control it's the companies mostly and especially for 5m they are notorious for not giving their artist's creative control over their music. If you look at it from Korean perspective idols are ranked at the bottom of the talent pool and not considered "real artists" except for few like 1U, bt5, GD so I believe they are more vulnerable than other high ranking people like actors, producers and politicians.
It is completely fine if you thought of T@emin as the illuminati poster child because that's just the image 5m has made him play since replay even in sh!nee MVs he was some times portrayed as the evil one and in s*perm he's portrayed as a villain character too plus he literally played luc1fer in want Mv lol so the suspicions are kind of justified and I don't blame people for disliking him or thinking of him as an evil person. I know.he gets compared to MJ But since I am a britney spears fan and I was familiar with MK ultra in western music before getting into kpop I had always thought of him as being like Disney stars or like a male counterpart of britney spears in some ways y'know the whole "innocent young church going teen idol who is a role model and who was heavily sexualized by their label for fan service when they were a minor" and singing lines such as baby I am a slave for you" (he has a song called slave) and "being in love with a criminal" sounded quite familiar to me and the very straightforward and heavy MK-ultra symbolism in his MVs just provided more evidence for me to believe he's an MK-ultra victim but jj0ng and Shinee love him a lot and seeing how the members and his staff were all so emotional about him enlisting makes me think he must have some humanity or good still left in him that made people feel attached to him I pray the military is a time where he can look back and recognize the evils of the industry and I hope all sh1nee members try to leave the hell called 5m and make their own label after they get back for good next November

 

[arhur12]

I think you could be right however personally I think they are cowardly and clearly they are more worried about having their careers affected than speaking out about their ‘brother’. They didn’t even say anything on his birthday when he was in jail, I sometimes wonder how other groups would have handled it. IKR he is deep deep in the occult. Out of all the bb members he’s the one most into it. He’s doing the whole Chanel thing wearing women’s clothes. In fact I think in terms of pushing occult agendas the other members didn’t do it as much even if they used symbolism but yes I believe he is pretty aware although I think he has also gone through some horrific stuff, I mean he was in the industry since he was practically a baby. Maybe $hinee is more honest admitting it’s like a business relationship. I think it‘s not a bad thing if it is like that, you can still be close, it’s just a different kind of bond. I think that relationship must have evolved by now though after everything they’ve gone through. Tbh I don’t see why they should have disbanded, I think j0nghyun is kept alive through $hinee instead of fading away. Yes me too, I didn’t discover him until about 2019. I don’t think they really used his death for publicity although I believe his funeral thing maybe should have been private you know? It seemed awful with all the reporters cameras flashing. On a more positive note, what’s you’re favourite j0nghyun song

It's sad how far GD has gone I think he did started out as a victim but now he's accepted the occult agenda and pushes it voluntarily you are right he is the most forefront in pushing the agenda the others did use symbolism but he was always considered the leader of the group and he was the one who set the evil "trends" I am afraid some bt5 members are going that route too now like one eye (you understand the code name from bt5 thread right lol) but coming back to jj0ng my favourite is skeleton flower and his cover for hyeya