Kpop Satanic/Illuminati Influence

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i'm not very familiar with suju's and exo's lawsuits... but wasn't exo's based on differences in treatment between chinese and korean members...?
nope, t-ara was with MBK entertainment i think. in TS were Secret, though. they were a pretty known group and they did have symbolism in their mvs.

what about t-ara though? i remember their bullying scandal which ultimately ended their career pretty much...
Oh sorry, then I got it wrong again : )))))) I thought T-Ara was in TS
Anyway, how was their lawsuit different? I mean they sued TS for bad treatment or what? They winning the lawsuit, does it imply that the company had to pay them or something? Can you explain their situation a bit?
As for EXO/Hangeng, even though they were mostly right, SM was too strong and had some clauses in their contract very easy to overlook/violate, so they won. Maybe SM had ties with the judges, I think even the EXO case was handled in Korea, not China, but I'm not completely sure...
Maybe TS had simpler contracts and wasn't that much powerful/didn't have connections with the judges, I suppose...
Maybe I am a bit overthinking, but do you know whether they had family members/friends dying/getting hurt badly around the time of that lawsuit? It is possible that the TS company underwent a humiliation ritual by losing the lawsuit, did they get more powerful/successful after the lawsuit? I think these last 2 sentences are just my mind running wild, but who knows : ))))))
 






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It is LOOK by GOT7 if you look them up... in the last year, they got so much into the occult... Jackson in America got into Kabbalah (wears that red string on his hand like Madonna), Yugyeom has a super weird big tattoo on his whole back (very occult vibe) etc.
So be careful with them and with kpop in general :(
Yeah, it sounds good and all, but I think it's better to not listen to it and get addicted again... wait a few days till the temptation goes away :(
Really? That's so disappointing. I liked them as people. I noticed alot of symbolysim in their MV's but I didn't know about the kabbalah or Yugyeom's tattoo. I'm going to have to look it up. I don't know if you've seen their new comeback promotions, they're very satanic and ritualistic...Don't check it out if you've managed to crawl out of the dark Kpop hole lol
 






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Oh sorry, then I got it wrong again : )))))) I thought T-Ara was in TS
Anyway, how was their lawsuit different? I mean they sued TS for bad treatment or what? They winning the lawsuit, does it imply that the company had to pay them or something? Can you explain their situation a bit?
As for EXO/Hangeng, even though they were mostly right, SM was too strong and had some clauses in their contract very easy to overlook/violate, so they won. Maybe SM had ties with the judges, I think even the EXO case was handled in Korea, not China, but I'm not completely sure...
Maybe TS had simpler contracts and wasn't that much powerful/didn't have connections with the judges, I suppose...
Maybe I am a bit overthinking, but do you know whether they had family members/friends dying/getting hurt badly around the time of that lawsuit? It is possible that the TS company underwent a humiliation ritual by losing the lawsuit, did they get more powerful/successful after the lawsuit? I think these last 2 sentences are just my mind running wild, but who knows : ))))))
"Up to 50 B.A.P concerts within Korea and overseas for 3 years without resting. No payment was ever given for 3 years until August this year, where 17900 was given per member which calculates to 500 per month which is lower than minimum wage and lower than working in a convenience store.

Members showed them hospital reports and requested a break several times but TS continuously rejected. Member who fainted from stress and exhaustion was taken out of the hospital and forced to perform. Hospital fees were paid personally by the members. Basic living standards and food wasn’t great either. They shared a single room with 3 bunk beds for over 2 years."

i've done a bit more research and apparently they reached a settlement and some members re-signed into the same company after it was sorted.. that is even sketchier... however, in 2018 they all left the company.
after the lawsuit it seems like their career didn't grow much but they still got a win on a music show, with a slight decline in popularity. there didn't seem so have been any humiliation ritual?... i don't know a lot either that's why i asked it in the thread if anyone knows anything that i'm missing :confused:

SM is a really powerful company yeah, i wonder how the members who filled lawsuits didn't face harsher backlash or humiliation...
 






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Really? That's so disappointing. I liked them as people. I noticed alot of symbolysim in their MV's but I didn't know about the kabbalah or Yugyeom's tattoo. I'm going to have to look it up. I don't know if you've seen their new comeback promotions, they're very satanic and ritualistic...Don't check it out if you've managed to crawl out of the dark Kpop hole lol
I think that once you see the truth, you can't trust anyone from there...
Especially for Eclipse, even their clothes had so many symbols... and the MV had that Shiva (god of destruction) pose where they stand all behind each other in a line and do that gesture with the hands... you know
And the moon phases in that video, super occult
 






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I've always been doubtful about the so called friendships between members of different groups they don't seem real to me honestly, maybe they have to say that, go out a few times together and take the occasional photo, to make the public think there isn't any problems or conflicts etc.
Just a theory of course, I bet some friendships are real
They usually mention being friends with different members because they trained together before splitting up.
 






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"Up to 50 B.A.P concerts within Korea and overseas for 3 years without resting. No payment was ever given for 3 years until August this year, where 17900 was given per member which calculates to 500 per month which is lower than minimum wage and lower than working in a convenience store.

Members showed them hospital reports and requested a break several times but TS continuously rejected. Member who fainted from stress and exhaustion was taken out of the hospital and forced to perform. Hospital fees were paid personally by the members. Basic living standards and food wasn’t great either. They shared a single room with 3 bunk beds for over 2 years."

i've done a bit more research and apparently they reached a settlement and some members re-signed into the same company after it was sorted.. that is even sketchier... however, in 2018 they all left the company.
after the lawsuit it seems like their career didn't grow much but they still got a win on a music show, with a slight decline in popularity. there didn't seem so have been any humiliation ritual?... i don't know a lot either that's why i asked it in the thread if anyone knows anything that i'm missing :confused:

SM is a really powerful company yeah, i wonder how the members who filled lawsuits didn't face harsher backlash or humiliation...
Maybe with B.A.P. losing the lawsuit was just a facade... like if the fans know we treat them super badly, let's 'pretend' to lose this lawsuit (not a big loss for the company money-related or something) and this way we get a clean reputation?
Even after so many years... they got a lower payment even compared with working for a convenience store? Maybe even BTS's posh apartments belong to the company after all... and they will pe super-poor if they leave... Now I kinda understand that MX scandal when they said Wonho didn't pay his debt (around 1000$-2000$ maybe?)
As for EXO, the Chinese members have to pay a big share of their revenue to SM till I don't know what year, and in Korea they were criticised (they don't promote here, even though it could be good for them economically)... so they got kinda badly out of it...
 






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They usually mention being friends with different members because they trained together before splitting up.
Maybe this is also an agenda for ships/pairings? Like to keep that fantasy alive for the fans or something...
Like for GOT7, Jackson and YoungJae moved out of the dorm but they kinda kept it a secret so the fans won't be sad -- anything for keeping that image of cooperation and bromance between the members
 






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I think that once you see the truth, you can't trust anyone from there...
Especially for Eclipse, even their clothes had so many symbols... and the MV had that Shiva (god of destruction) pose where they stand all behind each other in a line and do that gesture with the hands... you know
And the moon phases in that video, super occult
Interesting. This new comeback is all about the moon too. Must be some sort of continuation from Eclipse. I don't really know what the moon has to do with the occult tbh so I have no idea what their aim is. Must be some sort of ritual they do in their music videos. Weird.
 






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Interesting. This new comeback is all about the moon too. Must be some sort of continuation from Eclipse. I don't really know what the moon has to do with the occult tbh so I have no idea what their aim is. Must be some sort of ritual they do in their music videos. Weird.
I try to avoid them and Kpop as much as I can, I didn't look up their current comeback (second after Eclipse), but I have seen some nice analysis of the comeback next after Eclipse - ?You Calling my Name? , it said something about that green light around them symbolizing pride/arrogance/envy or something... maybe you can find it in this thread, have a look (no pun intended) :)))))))
And about Jackson's 'work' with that Indonesian artist ?I love you 3000?, you can also see some posts here, just have to search them
Sorry that I don't remember much...

As for the moon symbol, when there is a full moon it is a good time for sacrifices/demonic activity/possession
It has some significance related to some pagan gods ?Ishtar?, it is related with fertility (like the man is Sun and the woman is Moon) or something, again maybe you can find this info on this site, there should be some articles for the moon symbolism
I have also read about some connection with Antichrist, you have that sign a star next to a Halfmoon, could represent the antichrist being born out of the womb (that half-moon)
If you reverse that half-moon it looks like a bull-head (the horns), reference to Moloch maybe? Children were sacrificed to him
Also in Eclipse the MV starts with a circular staircase, which looks similar to the symbol of paedophilia
All this info I think should appear somewhere in this thread, more detailed
 






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Maybe this is also an agenda for ships/pairings? Like to keep that fantasy alive for the fans or something...
Like for GOT7, Jackson and YoungJae moved out of the dorm but they kinda kept it a secret so the fans won't be sad -- anything for keeping that image of cooperation and bromance between the members
Omg yeah...the shipping part of Kpop is strange. The members keep it going and play into it for the fans...now that I think about it, it's probably not as genuine as I thought. They must do it because they know it keeps fans addicted because they like seeing members close to each other. It's the same with every group. I have to admit that's what I liked, it's nice how they treat each other like family...but is it even real? Or they're just playing with people's emotions? We just trust their word and what they tell/show us but it's probably a way to keep us hooked.
 






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I try to avoid them and Kpop as much as I can, I didn't look up their current comeback (second after Eclipse), but I have seen some nice analysis of the comeback next after Eclipse - ?You Calling my Name? , it said something about that green light around them symbolizing pride/arrogance/envy or something... maybe you can find it in this thread, have a look (no pun intended) :)))))))
And about Jackson's 'work' with that Indonesian artist ?I love you 3000?, you can also see some posts here, just have to search them
Sorry that I don't remember much...
Ok, I'll have a look, thanks.
 






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Omg yeah...the shipping part of Kpop is strange. The members keep it going and play into it for the fans...now that I think about it, it's probably not as genuine as I thought. They must do it because they know it keeps fans addicted because they like seeing members close to each other. It's the same with every group. I have to admit that's what I liked, it's nice how they treat each other like family...but is it even real? Or they're just playing with people's emotions? We just trust their word and what they tell/show us but it's probably a way to keep us hooked.
It's fake, how come you randomly take people for their looks/'talent' (more like status or potential for the occult related to their astrology or something) and EVERY SINGLE TIME they come to get along so well
For example, in Shinee (if you are familiar with them) Key and Minho didn't get along at all when they were trainees, and they fought so much... they just had to move over in order to debut together and if I remember well, Key said that he didn't want to debut at all with Minho and even ?cried? (someone please correct me if you know)
Another example, with BTS, they 'tease' each other, maybe this is the hate/spite coming out of them, yet the fans laugh and call them 'savage', same with GOT7. I think it is so rude of Taehyung to always tell Jungkook to 'use his head', like he is brainless or something, and he knows this is his insecurity... maybe his feelings of light-headedness could be related to MK-Ultra?
There seems to be competition between them
Maybe we can relate to our daily life also? Even if we fight with someone, because our personalities are different, maybe we can get along for necessary things but we can't be super-close like they are portraying...
 






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It's fake, how come you randomly take people for their looks/'talent' (more like status or potential for the occult related to their astrology or something) and EVERY SINGLE TIME they come to get along so well
For example, in Shinee (if you are familiar with them) Key and Minho didn't get along at all when they were trainees, and they fought so much... they just had to move over in order to debut together and if I remember well, Key said that he didn't want to debut at all with Minho and even ?cried? (someone please correct me if you know)
Another example, with BTS, they 'tease' each other, maybe this is the hate/spite coming out of them, yet the fans laugh and call them 'savage', same with GOT7. I think it is so rude of Taehyung to always tell Jungkook to 'use his head', like he is brainless or something, and he knows this is his insecurity... maybe his feelings of light-headedness could be related to MK-Ultra?
There seems to be competition between them
Maybe we can relate to our daily life also? Even if we fight with someone, because our personalities are different, maybe we can get along for necessary things but we can't be super-close like they are portraying...
Hmmm yeah...It's their job to act as members who are close and love each other. I never thought about it. Or they really only hang out for work and their companies make them live together and bond etc It's all to keep fans fantasies alive. I only really know about Got7 and Exo, thankfully I tried hard to ignore other groups because I didn't want to fall even deeper. But from what I've seen all groups are the same....so it's most definitely a scheme. Maybe some of them are close but not all of them are like they want us to believe.

I noticed that with the teasing. To fans it's playful, to them it's probably annoying coz they don't get along as much as we think. I don't know...maybe they're thrown together and making the best of it lol Sometimes though when you're close to someone you say hurtful things like that coz you know they won't leave since you care about each other. That's like what some siblings do with each other. Toxic but there's love behind it lol
 






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Have any of you lived together with a group of friends at Uni or anything?
I trained as a nurse for 3 years. During that time there was a group of 8 of us who lived together, studied together and quite often worked together too. I was the oldest of the group. I was 20 when the course started but some girls were only 17.
Over the course of that 3 years we loved each other and we hated each other. We had really fun times together and we had really sad times together. Sometimes we were really close to one person and other tones we were really close to others. When we needed each other though, we always stuck together.
I’d imagine it’s a bit like that for these guys in the groups together. They have grown up together and they’ve shared amazing experiences with each other. They’ll always love each other but there will be times when they really annoy each other too. They will always share a special bond but eventually this period of their life will end and they will have to move on. For the boy groups things will change when they go for their military service and things will inevitably change when they come back from that.
South Korea is really different to a lot of other cultures. Friendships between rooks of the same sex seem to hold more value in the teens and twenties. I was married when I was 24 and my husband was 26. That’s not the culture in SK. That’s part of the reason why the intensity of friendships between members of the same sex seem much more deeper there.
 






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Have any of you lived together with a group of friends at Uni or anything?
I trained as a nurse for 3 years. During that time there was a group of 8 of us who lived together, studied together and quite often worked together too. I was the oldest of the group. I was 20 when the course started but some girls were only 17.
Over the course of that 3 years we loved each other and we hated each other. We had really fun times together and we had really sad times together. Sometimes we were really close to one person and other tones we were really close to others. When we needed each other though, we always stuck together.
I’d imagine it’s a bit like that for these guys in the groups together. They have grown up together and they’ve shared amazing experiences with each other. They’ll always love each other but there will be times when they really annoy each other too. They will always share a special bond but eventually this period of their life will end and they will have to move on. For the boy groups things will change when they go for their military service and things will inevitably change when they come back from that.
South Korea is really different to a lot of other cultures. Friendships between rooks of the same sex seem to hold more value in the teens and twenties. I was married when I was 24 and my husband was 26. That’s not the culture in SK. That’s part of the reason why the intensity of friendships between members of the same sex seem much more deeper there.
That's what I thought. Korean culture is different, looks like they're alot more affectionate with each other. The group's have lived together and seen each other everyday for years, they've been through alot together, so there's ought to be a close bond between them. But I wouldn't be surprised if they're using it to their advantage to keep fans hooked. It's a pretty big part of Kpop. Fans can't handle it when they don't see members together.
 






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Thank you for taking the time to engage with me. Firstly, let me say, I most certainly dint everything in the world is perfect. I definitely don’t think that conspiracies don’t exist and Governments don’t do wrong things. They absolutely do.
I live in a country - a western country - where a lot of things have happened that I wouldn’t have believe could have happened, but real evidence exists that it did happen. I know that not every one who should be good is good and not everyone who is supposed to protecting a country’s people, does.
Music is like anything else, there are positive aspects of it and there are negative aspects of it. It is very difficult as an older person to see sone of the views people hold here because they are so very extreme. It is very upsetting toread some of the things that are written here because they are so extreme.
For young people to live with such anxiety about the world and such a negative outlook on so many things must be very difficult. It makes me very sad.
I have read here at length and what disturbs me the most is that you believe the things you are presenting to be the truth. In reality, what you present is evidence is nothing more than rumour and speculation. Your culture or religion may tell you it’s wrong but that doesn’t mean it is.
To read things like people suggesting certain Kpop idols have allowed parents for example, to be sacrificed is offensive. Whether you like Kpop or not, these people are real people and when someone they love dies it is as terrible for them as it is for anyone, without people saying they are involved in their loved ones death. Can you imagine how you would feel if that was you being accused of that?
Just because they are celebrities doesn’t give anyone the right to say that awful stuff.
I’m not here to defend celebrities, I’m trying to make you understand that it doesn’t matter what people here believe to be true. You cannot go around saying harmful and hurtful things about people.
What actually worries me more however is, the negative impact you are having on each other. Your views are very mainstream and you might be allowed to have them but they can be very dangerous.
At the moment, coronavirus has killed thousands of people all around the world. There all kinds of weird conspiracy theories about how it was caused and how it’s spread etc. Believing those theories puts people’s lives at risk. When you take the time to understand the science you realise exactly how it happened and what has to be done to stop it. There is no great mystery behind it - just nature itself.
I can honestly tell you that I post here out of concern. I have volunteered most of my adult life for an organisation for girls and young women. I want you to listen and understand that sometimes the simplest explanation is the right one. I want you to be able to listen to the views of other people and go away and think about what they have said and be open to learning new things.
I can honestly tell you that I do listen to what you’re all saying. I do read the links etc. I search for the evidence of what you are saying in other places. I’m not finding it and thats what concerns me.
Please don’t take this offensively. It comes from a place of concern.
Do you have any idea how many times YOU start a sentence with I ? I think.. I am.. I can..I want...I have.. it goes on and on.. just about everything worries YOU and disturbs YOU about what people think and share on this forum.. since YOU like to refer to YOUrself constantly maybe YOU should start YOUr own forum and be able to read all about YOU and solve everything about YOUrself....that’s just MY opinion btw..
 






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That's what I thought. Korean culture is different, looks like they're alot more affectionate with each other. The group's have lived together and seen each other everyday for years, they've been through alot together, so there's ought to be a close bond between them. But I wouldn't be surprised if they're using it to their advantage to keep fans hooked. It's a pretty big part of Kpop. Fans can't handle it when they don't see members together.
Yes, fans often comment on how they miss their favourite groups and their biases when they haven’t had any content from them in a while.
There is no doubt that the companies give so much content, in order to maintain interest in their groups’ music and merchandise etc. They are first and foremost a business, so making money is always going to be top of their list of priorities.
However, I don’t doubt that there are genuine friendships between members. They have grown up together, essentially - they will have grown very close.
 






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