Kpop Satanic/Illuminati Influence

Hon33

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Ik he's full of shit, they all are
Yea, everyone who appeared on that live stream tonight to spread awareness and raise money to help people survive Covid-19 are all full of shit! Of course, you are right!
Every one of you here is right and the rest of the world is wrong!
 

Cherry14

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Look, you can consider me wrong about whatever you want but I am not wrong about this. I am a nurse, I have studied biology, my grandfather was a well-known microbiologist. Believe me, I know how to interpret the specialist information, I linked to you earlier. I understand the science behind it which I can assure you, is more than Trump does.
I have read many, many articles about the reason why the FDA shouldn’t have rushed into the decision forced upon them by Trump and I have read about the problems he has caused by saying what he did. He has caused all kinds of problems including the fact that the drug is now in short supply and supplies are having to be bought from companies in countries where the manufacturing process isn’t trustworthy.
I am not asking you to believe me, because you clearly didn’t read it understand the information I gave earlier. If you’re mature enough to look at the actual evidence for what it is, so be it.
Trump’s reckless actions are costing lives. Do you believe that the research proposal in the highly esteemed medical journal, the Lancet is wrong? Are you going to tell me it’s false? Yet you believe someone like Trump?
I simply don’t know what to say!
Lol now look whose defensive :v and apparently you didn't watch any of the two videos oh well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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Yea, everyone who appeared on that live stream tonight to spread awareness and raise money to help people survive Covid-19 are all full of shit! Of course, you are right!
Every one of you here is right and the rest of the world is wrong!
lol I really dont know why you keep coming back here

All your posts talk about your private life
You tell us about your husband, about your daughters, about your grandfather . it's pretty weird because the rest of us don't share private info here. why do you even share this?

you know this is a conspiracy forum right? we discuss symbols and talk about illuminati in kpop.
you seem to be an older person. so your constant spamming writing all about your private life is strange tbh
you should know better to not share private info on the internet.
 

Hon33

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I really hope that person is trolling because they keep fighting every day

I'm trying to understand what they want from us
they want us to close down the thread? to change our opinion so suddenly?

I want to ask:

Frankly, I’m fascinated!
 

Hon33

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Lol now look whose defensive :v and apparently you didn't watch any of the two videos oh well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I don’t have time to watch them tonight, actually. I’ll watch them tomorrow. Did you read the articles I linked?
 

Cherry14

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I really hope that person is trolling because they keep fighting every day

I'm trying to understand what they want from us
they want us to close down the thread? to change our opinion so suddenly?

I want to ask:

I bet those two things (;¬_¬)
I don’t have time to watch them tonight, actually. I’ll watch them tomorrow. Did you read the articles I linked?
I did
Watch whenever you can, like I said at least one but both would be great (∩_∩)
 
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Hon33

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lol I'm sure you are
And I'm sure your family would be proud.. we already know so much about them
Fascinating for us too.
My family and I talk about the things I read here quite a lot, as it happens. Isn’t that what families do? I read stuff. They read stuff. We talk about the different things we’ve read. We listen to each other’s opinions. It’s quite entertaining, especially in the last number of weeks when we are all on lockdown.
 

Hon33

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I bet those two things (;¬_¬)

I did
Watch whenever you can, like I said at least one
It would be good if you could see the world a little more rationally - for your benefit of course, not mine. I’m confident in my ability to make rational decisions for myself.
I don’t want to close your thread. It’s not doing me any harm.
I like to read what you have to say. It’s interesting. When people give me links I like to read them or watch them. I don’t always agree with what the link says but it’s interesting, nevertheless. Why is that so difficult to understand?
 

Cherry14

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It would be good if you could see the world a little more rationally - for your benefit of course, not mine. I’m confident in my ability to make rational decisions for myself.
I don’t want to close your thread. It’s not doing me any harm.
I like to read what you have to say. It’s interesting. When people give me links I like to read them or watch them. I don’t always agree with what the link says but it’s interesting, nevertheless. Why is that so difficult to understand?
Likewise.
It would be good if you watch the videos...Maybe
Your other posts say otherwise that's why
 

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It would be good if you could see the world a little more rationally - for your benefit of course, not mine. I’m confident in my ability to make rational decisions for myself.
I don’t want to close your thread. It’s not doing me any harm.
I like to read what you have to say. It’s interesting. When people give me links I like to read them or watch them. I don’t always agree with what the link says but it’s interesting, nevertheless. Why is that so difficult to understand?
Honestly the only thing you like to hear is yourself talk..and you’re the only one that likes to hear your answers to it... You obviously have your mind made up before you post one word.. I’ve seen several attempts from others to try and engage with you in conversation but it’s impossible and personally I’m tired of your condescending attitude towards the others on this thread.. and what I said before still stands... you’re annoying AF so being that it’s so fascinating to talk about yourself it might help you to start a thread of your own where you can ask and answer your own questions...is that really so difficult to understand ? Smh...
 

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It would be good if you could see the world a little more rationally - for your benefit of course, not mine. I’m confident in my ability to make rational decisions for myself.
Yeah, 'rational' means in concordance to what the mainstream media tells us and to what everyone is forced to accept...
It's not our benefit, but their benefit...
 

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Read about baekhyun
"Also, Chanyeol Sehun and Baekhyun are insane hookers, all bi. Baekhyun is the worst one and is a drug addicted, the company had a lot of problems with him. Now they have problems with Chanyeol"
Saesangs literally know everything about these cookie cutter idols
Hon33 your incredibly delusional and funny
I posted vc articles and your not convinced that the Illuminati exists lol then what are you still here for
Where are they getting their information from? How do they know?

Also, if idols are hookers it's not out of choice, it's due to MK Ultra.
 

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Oh my word, this is so frustrating!
I know you guys here think this is a satanic symbol but this was a concert for international audiences. You have to understand what these signs mean to different people.
For most it’s just a simple “OK” symbol. That’s all it is.
No one could say this is a great cause and the celebrities are doing really well to raise money for people who really need it?
People in the USA - one of the wealthiest countries in the world - can not afford health care! They cannot afford to eat! They cannot afford to pay their rent! There is a disproportionate amount of Black and Latino people dying because for years they have been unable to afford the same standard of living as white people (and yes I’m white)! Health care, food, a roof over their head - people all around the world deserve equal access to these things and they don’t have it. These celebrities are trying to ensure that in these really dangerous times, everyone has access to the support they need, yet you want to complain about Baekhyun making a sign that in all likelihood means nothing other than Ok/Cool.
Not everything is evil and not everything has an ulterior motive.
Did you watch the stories of the harsh realities people are living in? That is real life right now - for people all around the world. People are dying! People we all know have died or will die.
For heaven’s sake! It’s not fake news. Its not a conspiracy. Viruses don’t know about conspiracies!
There are a lot of terrible things happening in the world and right now Covid-19 is about the worst. Celebrities are trying to do their part to raise awareness and money. Spend some time thinking about what you can do to help, rather than looking for evil where it doesn’t exist!
I can't believe you still think it's all a coincidence. I like Baekhyun, naturally I was looking to make an excuse....but do you do the ok sign next to your eye too? Coz I've never.

I don't know how to explain this to you because you're being very close minded but we know not all celebrities are evil, what you don't know is many of them are only doing it to put on a show, or are controlled. Celebrities are just doing their job in this pandemic...they're entertaining you from home. If you really are interested go and look into what charities they support and who runs them...Maybe it will give you a small idea of whose idea the concerts are.

I feel like there's no point in us telling you about what's wrong with the rest of your post because you've already made up your mind to defend everything you say. You're probably laughing it off with your family. Congratulations being part of the problem...

Viruses don't know conspiracy?...You're telling me viruses can't be created? I think you need to go and do alot more research before coming on here and arguing with people who are trying to discuss something.

And will you stop telling me about the harsh realities of the world....You don't even know the half of it.

Im curious, did you watch the out of the shadows documentary?
 

Hon33

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Honestly the only thing you like to hear is yourself talk..and you’re the only one that likes to hear your answers to it... You obviously have your mind made up before you post one word.. I’ve seen several attempts from others to try and engage with you in conversation but it’s impossible and personally I’m tired of your condescending attitude towards the others on this thread.. and what I said before still stands... you’re annoying AF so being that it’s so fascinating to talk about yourself it might help you to start a thread of your own where you can ask and answer your own questions...is that really so difficult to understand ? Smh...
I have tried to engage. When people give me links, I try to say thank you and I read them. Just the other day, someone give me a link to a video. I watched and I asked for their thoughts and then I gave mine. It wasn’t the same as hers exactly. Then again, the poster didn’t really refer to their own interpretation but someone else’s.
I agreed with someone about Rosie from Blackpink’s voice and how thst company ask her to stick to a concept etc but again I was accused of disagreeing.
Someone else insisted that idols don’t go to school as teenagers and they told me I was wrong. I posted pics of them graduating Did they acknowledge that? No.
Ive acknowledged that the industry isn’t perfect. I’ve agreed there are problems. I don’t believe it can all be accredited to the occult. If I’m wrong about that then I’m wrong. However, I am perfectly entitled to say I don’t see it that way. I see it this way.
I am older than you - that doesn’t make me right, but it gives me different life experiences. I come from a different culture and background. I’ve had a different type of education.
You have a group here where you can post whatever opinions you have and you don’t want anyone to disagree. Life isn’t like that. Some of the things you guys say are really not good. Someone gave me a link last night to a post talking about Baekhyun and Chanyeol as bi hookers; about Ten having a sugar daddy. These are real people. There is no evidence for these things and you cannot and should not say these things about anyone. Believing in conspiracy theories is one thing, saying hateful and degrading things about people when you have no proof is something else altogether. You have no actual, real evidence for any of this. Someone saying it, does not make it true. If I were to say the same things about you, would it be enough to make it true?
You tell me they have symbols and signs in their videos? Those symbols like hand gestures, all have alternative, more simple, more likely explanations.
I have tried to be respectful to you - even though I don’t share your opinion. However, you have all quite often been disrespectful to me. I don’t want to talk about me or listen to my own voice. If you are do certain of what you believe, why am I such a threat to you.Why are you always attacking?
 

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I can't believe you still think it's all a coincidence. I like Baekhyun, naturally I was looking to make an excuse....but do you do the ok sign next to your eye too? Coz I've never.

I don't know how to explain this to you because you're being very close minded but we know not all celebrities are evil, what you don't know is many of them are only doing it to put on a show, or are controlled. Celebrities are just doing their job in this pandemic...they're entertaining you from home. If you really are interested go and look into what charities they support and who runs them...Maybe it will give you a small idea of whose idea the concerts are.

I feel like there's no point in us telling you about what's wrong with the rest of your post because you've already made up your mind to defend everything you say. You're probably laughing it off with your family. Congratulations being part of the problem...

Viruses don't know conspiracy?...You're telling me viruses can't be created? I think you need to go and do alot more research before coming on here and arguing with people who are trying to discuss something.

And will you stop telling me about the harsh realities of the world....You don't even know the half of it.

Im curious, did you watch the out of the shadows documentary?
Do I use the sign Baekhyun does? No, of course I don’t. I’m thinking people might think I was a little silly if I did - not because it’s evil, but because it’s not really something people of my age do. I’m guessing Baekhyun doesn’t do it in his daily life either. He did it in a performance because it’s something young people do. Quite often they are singing in Korean, to people who don’t speak the same language. They use facial expression and gesture to enhance what they are trying to communicate. We all do it to some degree or another. That’s my understanding of it. It also happens to be the understanding of a lot of young people I know. It’s not yours. That’s fine. It doesn’t make you right and me wrong. It doesn’t make me right and you wrong. Someone offered their interpretation and I offered mine. Yes, I was frustrated. I shouldn’t have been. I should have been more tolerant.
It may make me a “boomer”, as someone called me, but I was around when the very first of these celebrity charity events kicked off with Live Aid. It was the first time that celebrities had ever done anything like that. I was on an international trip with Girlguiding (I don’t know if you know the organisation), staying in a youth hostel. There were people from countries all around the world there as we crowded around a television. We couldn’t speak the same languages but we were all crying - all of us - when the videos of starving children were shown. Do you think these events are organised to desensitise is to the things going on in the world? That’s certainly not the effect they have. Did you watch the live stream? Did you see how everyone is suffering? In the U.K., we are so fortunate. We have free health care, most of us have homes and food and are not struggling to deal with the additional problems less economically developed countries are dealing with. If last nights event raises awareness and money and makes life easier for those who really need the help, why is it a bad thing?
I am not laughing anything off with my family. We discuss the things that are said. Isn’t that what you all want? More people to be aware of the things you believe? It doesn’t matter whether we agree. It’s putting your story out there. Someone we discuss it with might agree even if we don’t.
Viruses don’t know conspiracy. There is great debate whether viruses as a thing are even alive or not. Viruses are so complex, it’s truly fascinating. However, they can also be deadly. Yes, they can probably be made, but we know Covid-19 wasn’t manufactured. We know this because coronaviruses like SARS already exist and we know how they develop. This virus is different than others because it appears to have been transmitted in three steps and not two, mutating as it did so. There is no scientific evidence that it was manufactured. Now, you’re probably going to tell that it’s all a conspiracy. Not everything in the world can be controlled in that way - unless every scientist, every lab researcher etc, etc , all around the world can be controlled. The beauty of scientific research is that it has to be peer-reviewed. It is never stand-alone. Sometimes, we have to trust that process.
I do know about the harsh realities that exist in the world, for some people. I am very lucky that in my life as a whole, I have never had to deal with many of them. I’ve had to deal with some pretty rotten stuff, but it’s not really that bad compared to what others have to deal with. I’m grateful for that.
I did watch the documentary, yes. What was your opinion of it?
 

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Idols do not go to school and it is not even a hidden thing, it is well known in korea and it is even considered normal.
Idols or lets say underage trainees go to idol schools which they do not get the classical education most of the people get. Companies pay or "donate" money to these schools and idols only show up for graduation, exam or for shootings (most of the videos of idols you see is for this purpose). Exams are based on singing and dancing.

lol This is not a conspiracy or anything. I know old kpop groups and its always been like this.
This shows that you have very limited knowledge about kpop.
The performing arts schools they go to - as far as I understand it - offer core lessons as well as singing, dancing, instrumental tuition as well. Most go until whatever age you leave school at in Korea. When they are not able to attend school, they are still required to complete assignments and submit them online.
Not all idols go to these schools. Some attend ordinary schools. Others have completed their education before becoming trainees. There are similar schools in countries all around the world.
Older idols have completed degrees and are either required to attend university or complete their courses online.
I don’t claim to be an expert about Kpop, by any means.
 

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"Not all idols go to these schools. Some attend ordinary schools. Others have completed their education before becoming trainees. "
I specifically said underage trainees.
"There are similar schools in countries all around the world."
No, there aren't. Idols schools are totally different than art schools.
"When they are not able to attend school, they are still required to complete assignments and submit them online."
School is not about assignments.
And to be honest the majority of them only finish junior High or High school, and don't even go to regular classes or they stop going without finishing, since training demands a lot from them from the very beginning
 

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rapmon is not only a handler himself, he has a handler too
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Just like this one
 
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