Kpop Satanic/Illuminati Influence

Hon33

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lol exactly this person keeps coming back here and telling us what to do
they say kpop is an example, kpop idols never did drugs and never promoted sex

I guess the Burning Sun and the NTH chat controversy went over their heads?
not to mention all the times kpop idols talked about being sexually abused and exploited by the industry, forced to have PS and fake their image
or all the times kpop idols commited suicide because they were so miserable living the "perfect kpop life"


also hilarious to come to a conspiracy forum and telling us to "stop talking about conspiracies"
is like me going to Allkpop and saying: STOP LIKING KPOP IDOLS!!!!

that person just want to derail the conversation and give us orders (like they are our mommy) ....they are a kpop fan who is sensitive about precious kpop idols being "questioned"
they obviously don't believe kpop idols are involved in the illuminati....so It makes no sense they "never left" this thread and still coming here to fight....creepy
I’ve most definitely never claimed that Kpop idols are all perfect. Where have I ever said they’ve never done drugs or promoted sex? No one is perfect but it is not my place to tear them apart or judge them for what they do.

You’re right though, I don’t believe that Kpop idols are involved with the illuminati. I don’t believe that every gesture they make or every lyric they sing is evil. I don’t go out of my way to see things in their actions which just are not there.

I have no desire to be your mother, but if I were, I would tell you to stop with all of this talk because it is more evil and ungodly than any of the idols you speculate about. In fact, you have no idea how dangerous and abnormal it is. It worries me that you try to influence others with it. It also worries me deeply that you feel it is acceptable to speculate about people being sacrificed etc and you don’t see that as a bad thing to do.
Yes, Kpop idols commit suicide. Lots of celebrities commit suicide. Lots of teenagers who have mental health issues commit suicide, as do mothers and fathers and grandparents and all kinds of normal people. They do so for all kinds of reasons.
There is a world-wide pandemic at the moment, but in sone countries suicide has been at near epidemic levels for years now. People here, have so little respect for people who have taken their own lives and their families, that they speculate about how they’ve been sacrificed or murdered. It’s not okay to do that just because you like to discuss conspiracy theories. These are real people who really died, it’s not a joke or game.
You don’t know what impact the things that you might say about such things may have on someone else’s life - you don’t know how it may trigger someone. Stop criticising me and open your eyes to your own actions. Perhaps, try being mature enough to respect and understand that I comment here because the way many if you think genuinely concerns me.

You are right, lots of bad things have abd continue to happen in the entertainment industry. However, there are also many people in the entertainment industry who do very positive work.
 






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SM still using SHINee's color at Changmin videos . Look at the dance practice vid.
It may be ridiculous think this is suspicious but it's really is fishy right? A person already pointed out that the 'chocolate' mv is similar to Jonghyun's shinin' mv, it has the same aesthetic too. and It was released 2 days before Jong's birthday...

What is the purpose? I don't understand actually... why mockery is that important for SM? They're disgusting.


For the person that commented that listening to kpop is workship the devil: I don't think so! I'm a good person and I believe that the idols are too (at least in terms of not being a satanist,sacrifice people etc). The truth is that they're puppets and controled, idols are controled about the occultism stuff and the normal stuff too. We should pray for them actually.
 






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SM still using SHINee's color at Changmin videos . Look at the dance practice vid.
It may be ridiculous think this is suspicious but it's really is fishy right? A person already pointed out that the 'chocolate' mv is similar to Jonghyun's shinin' mv, it has the same aesthetic too. and It was released 2 days before Jong's birthday...

What is the purpose? I don't understand actually... why mockery is that important for SM? They're disgusting.


For the person that commented that listening to kpop is workship the devil: I don't think so! I'm a good person and I believe that the idols are too (at least in terms of not being a satanist,sacrifice people etc). The truth is that they're puppets and controled, idols are controled about the occultism stuff and the normal stuff too. We should pray for them actually.
Or maybe the same thing is going to happen

Yeah that was me and I was specifically talking about b t s(not the only group though) , they have songs like boy meets 3vil or pi3d piper etc. and since they brag about writing their own songs well that says that they know what they are doing, with b s&t video Rm said the abraxas did a good job or something among the lines
I'm also hopeful that not all of these singers are bad, and I also pray for them to never go through this kinds of things, or for them to get out if they are
 






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Or maybe the same thing is going to happen

Yeah that was me and I was specifically talking about b t s(not the only group though) , they have songs like boy meets 3vil or pi3d piper etc. and since they brag about writing their own songs well that says that they know what they are doing, with b s&t video Rm said the abraxas did a good job or something among the lines
I'm also hopeful that not all of these singers are bad, and I also pray for them to never go through this kinds of things, or for them to get out if they are
Your observations about Changmin's were really necessaried in this forum!

Well I do still with my point that the idols are good persons but I do agree that some BTS members have a weird behavior. Something about RM is off for me and idk why yet. As for the female side, IU for sure ...it's my intuition.
 






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Guys I keep falling and waking up like I am dreaming.
I started liking this boy group so much lately, so much that I wanted to go seem them in the concert this year. I asked my father: can you please borrow me money to go?
He said: I thought you stopped liking kpop groups..
Me: I promise you this time they are worth it. They are different. They have great personalities and great music.
My father: what if they will change in the way BTS did?
Me: Then I should enjoy them now as long as I can.
He then said he will think ab it.. But it didn’t take long and they started being dirty with each other on stage, promoting LGBTQ agenda, thing they didn’t use to show that much until then.
I lost my faith in stanning kpop forever. There is no one in the industry you can truly trust. They may seem ok now but eventually they will follow the trend, they will do what they are asked to do and what anyone else does in order to succed.

I was so heartbroken and mad.. I promised myself that I won’t stan anybody anymore.. not even like or listen to them. No. I will keep my mind clean of all this dirt. I won’t accept it in my life anymore. I will be indifferent towards music and artists from now on.

I am sure VIPs (BigBang fans) also felt like this when they found out Seungri was involved into a criminal act. It’s truly heartbreaking.
 






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Guys I keep falling and waking up like I am dreaming.
I started liking this boy group so much lately, so much that I wanted to go seem them in the concert this year. I asked my father: can you please borrow me money to go?
He said: I thought you stopped liking kpop groups..
Me: I promise you this time they are worth it. They are different. They have great personalities and great music.
My father: what if they will change in the way BTS did?
Me: Then I should enjoy them now as long as I can.
He then said he will think ab it.. But it didn’t take long and they started being dirty with each other on stage, promoting LGBTQ agenda, thing they didn’t use to show that much until then.
I lost my faith in stanning kpop forever. There is no one in the industry you can truly trust. They may seem ok now but eventually they will follow the trend, they will do what they are asked to do and what anyone else does in order to succed.

I was so heartbroken and mad.. I promised myself that I won’t stan anybody anymore.. not even like or listen to them. No. I will keep my mind clean of all this dirt. I won’t accept it in my life anymore. I will be indifferent towards music and artists from now on.

I am sure VIPs (BigBang fans) also felt like this when they found out Seungri was involved into a criminal act. It’s truly heartbreaking.
Completely unrelated to Kpop. Do you think that someone who is LGBTQ in real life is bad In some way?
 






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thank you i needed this it will help to get over stupid guanlin's face, well isn't that the only reason people have bias/stans in the first place?
yes most of the time is about looks. When you feel physical atraction for a person is harder to let go

according to my observation most intense kpop fans are:
1: single, and 90% of the time with no experience in dating
2: married women with already dead relationships.

that's why most kpop groups promote the: "I'm your boyfriend" narrative....they want single girls or women with dead relationships and bored of the marriage life
 






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Guys I keep falling and waking up like I am dreaming.
I started liking this boy group so much lately, so much that I wanted to go seem them in the concert this year. I asked my father: can you please borrow me money to go?
He said: I thought you stopped liking kpop groups..
Me: I promise you this time they are worth it. They are different. They have great personalities and great music.
My father: what if they will change in the way BTS did?
Me: Then I should enjoy them now as long as I can.
He then said he will think ab it.. But it didn’t take long and they started being dirty with each other on stage, promoting LGBTQ agenda, thing they didn’t use to show that much until then.
I lost my faith in stanning kpop forever. There is no one in the industry you can truly trust. They may seem ok now but eventually they will follow the trend, they will do what they are asked to do and what anyone else does in order to succed.

I was so heartbroken and mad.. I promised myself that I won’t stan anybody anymore.. not even like or listen to them. No. I will keep my mind clean of all this dirt. I won’t accept it in my life anymore. I will be indifferent towards music and artists from now on.

I am sure VIPs (BigBang fans) also felt like this when they found out Seungri was involved into a criminal act. It’s truly heartbreaking.
If you don't mind me asking what kpop boy group is the one you are talking about?
 






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thank you i needed this it will help to get over stupid guanlin's face, well isn't that the only reason people have bias/stans in the first place?
No I don’t think it’s necessarily a physical attraction at all.
I know many of you don’t like me commenting here because I’m older but let explain it anyway.
I like music - all kinds of music - and have done since I was a teenager. I have never been obsessed by music, though.
My daughter likes music too - all kinds of music. She is a classically trained singer and hopes to study music performance and production next year. She can sing any genre of song. She really likes Kpop but she also really likes other types of music too. Through her interest in it, I have come to like it as well. We watch videos together and chat about various aspects of what they do.
She has biases and as a singer, a lot of her biases will be based on the individual talent of the performers rather than their physical appearance. She will also like certain characteristics in their personalities. She is perfectly aware that her fascination with Kpop is a temporary thing. She will enjoy it while it lasts because like all the other interests people develop in their lives, she will eventually outgrow it and move on.
She is an exceptionally intelligent young girl and wanted to study medicine or something related. Over the course of the past year many things have happened in her life, which have led her to be truthful with herself and acknowledge that music rather than science is where her heart lies. The influence of many musicians, as well as extremely talented young Kpop idols, have given her the courage to follow her dreams. She has no aspiration to be an idol (we are not Korean) or a celebrity of any kind. She just wants to study something which she feels passionately about. As a gifted student, she thought she should study something that was seen as worthwhile like medicine. She felt that was what people expected of her even though it wasn’t what she wanted. We - her father and I - want her to be happy and if studying music will make her happy then it is what she should do. Her teachers and headteacher agree with us and fully support her choice.
As far as your immature comment about married women. I am an older, married woman but I can still like Kpop. I might be able to pick out some favourites among groups, but they are not biases, as such. I am old enough to be these boys’ mother and I’m well aware of that. If I have members that I like, it’s because they have a talent or ability which I admire them for. There is absolutely no physical attraction about it. I’m twice their age, that would be gross! As for having a dead relationship, my husband actually arranged for my sister who is older than me, to take me to see SuperM in London for my 50th Birthday. I’m disabled and I couldn’t go alone. My daughter and her friend also went, but separately from my sister and I. My husband doesn’t think there is anything strange at all about me going to see this group and neither did my older sister. He knows some of the members’ names and he knows their songs.
I think perhaps the problem may be that some of you don’t really understand Western culture. For that reason, you don’t understand why people of all ages and genders support Kpop and stan idols, without being physically attracted to them. At the SuperM concert, there were lots of people of my age there simply enjoying the music.
Older people in the West go to all kinds of concerts all the time. It really is no big deal. There doesn’t have to be a physical attraction to have biases.Every one, is worth so much more than their outward appearance. It’s very shallow to believe that whether someone likes someone or not depends on how they look. It is also very disrespectful to believe that a married woman who likes music has a dead relationship with her husband. That doesn’t say muchfor women!
 






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As far as your immature comment about married women. I am an older, married woman but I can still like Kpop. I might be able to pick out some favourites among groups, but they are not biases, as such. I am old enough to be these boys’ mother and I’m well aware of that. If I have members that I like, it’s because they have a talent or ability which I admire them for. There is absolutely no physical attraction about it. I’m twice their age, that would be gross! As for having a dead relationship, my husband actually arranged for my sister who is older than me, to take me to see SuperM in London for my 50th Birthday. I’m disabled and I couldn’t go alone. My daughter and her friend also went, but separately from my sister and I. My husband doesn’t think there is anything strange at all about me going to see this group and neither did my older sister. He knows some of the members’ names and he knows their songs.
I think perhaps the problem may be that some of you don’t really understand Western culture. For that reason, you don’t understand why people of all ages and genders support Kpop and stan idols, without being physically attracted to them. At the SuperM concert, there were lots of people of my age there simply enjoying the music.
Older people in the West go to all kinds of concerts all the time. It really is no big deal. There doesn’t have to be a physical attraction to have biases.Every one, is worth so much more than their outward appearance. It’s very shallow to believe that whether someone likes someone or not depends on how they look. It is also very disrespectful to believe that a married woman who likes music has a dead relationship with her husband. That doesn’t say muchfor women!
that user never talked about married women...it was me, and there is no need to get defensive.
Read my comment again:

"according to my observation most intense kpop fans are: ".... the words I used were :MOST and INTENSE
so unless you fit into the intense category no need to take offense on it

I sustain my point: MOST kpop fans feel physical atraction to their bias
Idols sell the boyfriend/girlfriend narrative and they are not allowed to date in public for this exact reason

When idols are revealed to be dating most fans feel "betrayed" and some idols who got married were asked to leave the group
A recent example is Chen:


there might be fans who cares about the music and the talent but they are the minority.
kpop is very foccused on visuals and the idols being single and only living for fans.
 






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that user never talked about married women...it was me, and there is no need to get defensive.
Read my comment again:

"according to my observation most intense kpop fans are: ".... the words I used were :MOST and INTENSE
so unless you fit into the intense category no need to take offense on it

I sustain my point: MOST kpop fans feel physical atraction to their bias
Idols sell the boyfriend/girlfriend narrative and they are not allowed to date in public for this exact reason

When idols are revealed to be dating most fans feel "betrayed" and some idols who got married were asked to leave the group
A recent example is Chen:


there might be fans who cares about the music and the talent but they are the minority.
kpop is very foccused on visuals and the idols being single and only living for fans.
That's true otherwise fanpages would only post about the music and not photos and videos of them when take their shirt off or when they show a little skin by accident
I still like this one kpop group and yeah I like their music and all, but me having a bias makes that like stronger and if he were to get a girlfriend it would be much easier to stop listening to them if I decide to, and the same goes for several People I know both online and in person
 






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That's true otherwise fanpages would only post about the music and not photos and videos of them when take their shirt off or when they show a little skin by accident
I still like this one kpop group and yeah I like their music and all, but me having a bias makes that like stronger and if he were to get a girlfriend it would be much easier to stop listening to them if I decide to, and the same goes for several People I know both online and in person
yes! physical atraction is a huge factor
I watch this video of a guy who talks about boybands and "the first love" narrative they use (especially wih teenager fans) is very interesting if you want to watch it :)

 






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that user never talked about married women...it was me, and there is no need to get defensive.
Read my comment again:

"according to my observation most intense kpop fans are: ".... the words I used were :MOST and INTENSE
so unless you fit into the intense category no need to take offense on it

I sustain my point: MOST kpop fans feel physical atraction to their bias
Idols sell the boyfriend/girlfriend narrative and they are not allowed to date in public for this exact reason

When idols are revealed to be dating most fans feel "betrayed" and some idols who got married were asked to leave the group
A recent example is Chen:


there might be fans who cares about the music and the talent but they are the minority.
kpop is very foccused on visuals and the idols being single and only living for fans.
I know who said what.
In western music culture, it is not unusual for group members to be dating or married. Therefore, in the west no one is going to think twice about it, if an idol is revealed to be dating. In western culture Chen’s news was widely supported. People were pleased that he has found someone he wants to narry
It seems to be more of an issue in societies who aren’t used to that type of culture, like South Korea itself. The dating culture there in general is very different to the West.
 






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yes! physical atraction is a huge factor
I watch this video of a guy who talks about boybands and "the first love" narrative they use (especially wih teenager fans) is very interesting if you want to watch it :)

This guy is spot on.. do you know his name or channel where he does more videos ? Thx!
 






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In any case, even if a fan does find their bias physically attractive, it is perfectly normal.
It has always been the case that fans have been obsessed withbtheur Idols whether they are sports stars, music stars, actors or whatever.
it is perfectly normal. I’m fact, it is probably quite an important milestone in a young person’s development. In most cases, it is something they will outgrow.
 






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