Kpop Satanic/Illuminati Influence

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Jiyeon T-ara member posted this about the incident
I don't think it was about Minho, but Jonghyun looks hot tempered and probably tired from something, when someone feel annoyed, they lashes out at the smallest thing
and so, this what was all about. how can they mistaken this a physical fight? i suddenly remember Jonghyun’s song “Hashtag”
 





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I searched and found one odd thing with shinee.Every sm ent group is signed with sm and one japanese group(avex ent) exept shinee.They are signed with english company named Virgin records.Name is weard and logo is wearder.
I will try and keep this short. The reason Shinee are signed with a different agency is because after JYJ left SM, they went behind SM's backs and signed exclusive contracts with Avex. Just before JYJ signed with Avex, Avex sold all its shares of SM and cut ties with them. During that tense period SM could not sign any new acts with Avex, so SHinee was signed with a different agency EMI + Virgin records. It wasn't only Shinee though. Girls Generation were signed to Universal Japan too. Universal Japan are the distributors of Shinee's music. I don't know if you know, but JYJ weren't long at Avex before they got problems with them. Avex suspended their contracts and started working with SM again but Avex had a lesser role with SM artists than before. After the relationship between Avex and SM got better they started signing their groups with them again. I think all record labels whether they have weird logos or not, are satanic especially those long in the tooth like Avex and others.
 





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I will try and keep this short. The reason Shinee are signed with a different agency is because after JYJ left SM, they went behind SM's backs and signed exclusive contracts with Avex. Just before JYJ signed with Avex, Avex sold all its shares of SM and cut ties with them. During that tense period SM could not sign any new acts with Avex, so SHinee was signed with a different agency EMI + Virgin records. It wasn't only Shinee though. Girls Generation were signed to Universal Japan too. Universal Japan are the distributors of Shinee's music. I don't know if you know, but JYJ weren't long at Avex before they got problems with them. Avex suspended their contracts and started working with SM again but Avex had a lesser role with SM artists than before. After the relationship between Avex and SM got better they started signing their groups with them again. I think all record labels whether they have weird logos or not, are satanic especially those long in the tooth like Avex and others.
Thank you for explaining about companies also l have question about some Japan gang yakuzi or something someone said that they are connected to tvxq and jonghyun but l don't get what are they some Illuminati gang(I will be really thankful if you can explain me about them)
 





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In this video which is recorded by some fans in some music show or awards there was a problem with seats. This person from staff asked Shinee to sit somehow closer so T-ARA can sit there too. Suddenly Jonghyun is yelling something and he seems to be angry. Even one of the T-ARA girls covered her mouth from shock and seems to look scared because of his behaviour. At first I thought that he yelled at this staff person for trying to make T-ARA sit on Shinee seats but then I realized that he was angry after Minho said something to him.
So...I know what happened there. The concert didn't have enough seats and T-ara were looking for their seats. Jonghyun offered up SHINee's seats and the other members didn't mind, but Minho thought there were plenty of unoccupied fan seats they could sit in. Jonghyun and Minho were never really on good terms with each other and had several arguments about other things prior to this (like the night before). Minho says that they can sit in the fans' seats and Jonghyun says it wouldn't be safe for T-ara (it wouldn't be...at all). Minho was angry and said if he thinks it wouldn't be safe then he should sit there instead, and that's when Jonghyun lost his temper and yelled at him. He yelled "you never listen to me" and that was the end of it. I forgot the T-ara member's name who was so shocked but she seemed pretty upset over it.

All this being said...this isn't really relevant to the thread, is it? Interpersonal drama will happen whether someone's in the illuminati or not...Although if you think it is relevant then please say why and of course, post it!
 





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Thank you for explaining about companies also l have question about some Japan gang yakuzi or something someone said that they are connected to tvxq and jonghyun but l don't get what are they some Illuminati gang(I will be really thankful if you can explain me about them)
I don't know much about the Yakuza either. I watched a documentary about them a few years ago but I don't think we can really get much information from such TV programmes. The media and TV are controlled by the elite as the new article from vigilant citizen shows. What I know is that the Yakuza is an organised crime syndicate based in Japan mainly. They are in other countries though. They have been around a long time and I think they have ties to the illuminati and have very strong connections to the police and government other wise they wouldn't have lasted as long and gotten away with as much they have. I think they have shares and are involved with many mainstream businesses. They could be running the businesses secretly for all we know but using others to pose as CEOs of those businesses. I don't know if the Yakuza have direct connection to TVXQ or Jonghyun (do you mean his death?) at all. I don't think they are high enough on the ladder (secret societies or illuminati etc), for the Yakuza to be involved with directly. If they were going to be involved with with anyone, it would be with the agencies like Avex, SM Japan, Universal music Japan etc. I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. Did you know that Avex, Sm and Universal Japan joined together to establish a new company? At least that is what it says in this allkpop article. https://www.allkpop.com/article/201...japan-establish-joint-company-everysing-japan
 





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I don't know much about the Yakuza either. I watched a documentary about them a few years ago but I don't think we can really get much information from such TV programmes. The media and TV are controlled by the elite as the new article from vigilant citizen shows. What I know is that the Yakuza is an organised crime syndicate based in Japan mainly. They are in other countries though. They have been around a long time and I think they have ties to the illuminati and have very strong connections to the police and government other wise they wouldn't have lasted as long and gotten away with as much they have. I think they have shares and are involved with many mainstream business. They could be running the businesses secretly for all we know but using others to pose as CEOs of those businesses. I don't know if the Yakuza have direct connection to TVXQ or Jonghyun (do you mean his death?) at all. I don't think they are high enough on the ladder (secret societies or illuminati etc), for the Yakuza to be involved with them directly. If they were going to be involved with with anyone, it would be with the agencies they are signed with like Avex, SM Japan, Universal music Japan etc. I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. Did you know that Avex, Sm and Universal Japan companies joined together to establish a new company? At least that is what it says in this allkpop article. https://www.allkpop.com/article/201...japan-establish-joint-company-everysing-japan
Yeah I agree, I honestly, don't think Yakuza could stop the illuminati plan of sacrificing one of the Ex-DBSK members, they are not that powerful to do that and yes they are connected to the illuminati unless they wouldn't last long.
So Honestly, after the last posts from RanFan I dont know but I have my doubts, some of things just doesn't add up, just my opinion no offence
 





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Yeah I agree, I honestly, don't think Yakuza could stop the illuminati plan of sacrificing one of the Ex-DBSK members, they are not that powerful to do that and yes they are connected to the illuminati unless they wouldn't last long.
So Honestly, after the last posts from RanFan I dont know but I have my doubts, some of things just doesn't add up, just my opinion no offence
I agree many things don't add up but what exactly doesn't add up for you?
 





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I don't know much about the Yakuza either. I watched a documentary about them a few years ago but I don't think we can really get much information from such TV programmes. The media and TV are controlled by the elite as the new article from vigilant citizen shows. What I know is that the Yakuza is an organised crime syndicate based in Japan mainly. They are in other countries though. They have been around a long time and I think they have ties to the illuminati and have very strong connections to the police and government other wise they wouldn't have lasted as long and gotten away with as much they have. I think they have shares and are involved with many mainstream business. They could be running the businesses secretly for all we know but using others to pose as CEOs of those businesses. I don't know if the Yakuza have direct connection to TVXQ or Jonghyun (do you mean his death?) at all. I don't think they are high enough on the ladder (secret societies or illuminati etc), for the Yakuza to be involved with them directly. If they were going to be involved with with anyone, it would be with the agencies they are signed with like Avex, SM Japan, Universal music Japan etc. I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case. Did you know that Avex, Sm and Universal Japan joined together to establish a new company? At least that is what it says in this allkpop article. https://www.allkpop.com/article/201...japan-establish-joint-company-everysing-japan
I'm sure that companies are involved in death of jonghyun.I mentioned tvxq because RedFan claims that she is in korean music industry or something like that ( I don't know if that is truth because this is internet and everyone could write anything they want so maybe she is saying the truth maybe not)and she said that jonghyun was sacrifice for tvxq. l remember that someone write something about connection between yakuzi and tvxq and some girl I don't remember her name.Someone on the top who has power wanted him dead and I think there are to many people how are involved and we only have small pieces of real picture.
 





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I agree many things don't add up but what exactly doesn't add up for you?
well, for me, I know that the illuminati plan things like 20 years ahead and they never change it, so when they chooses Jonghyun as their sacrifice based on energy and numerology, I am sure that they won't change that and there is no power can stop them, so the thing about changing later to him and it was for Ex-DBSK members doesn't at all add up, plus there is zero signs in the MVs, concerts etc.. suggest any of the DBSK member were to be sacrificed, in sharp contrast with Jonghyun which since his debut(and not later as he suggested) were clearly shown he was to be sacrificed, I posted about that before, and it wasn't postponed like he suggest, it was exactly in 2017 as they planned.
he also said Minwoo wasn't sacrifice for Shinhwa, I don't know Minwoo actually before his death, but I have seen here post where it is clearly shown he is, I know the illuminati and their tactic and style when they sacrifice someone.
There is more things but these are the main things made me question him

How about you?
 





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@phipps have you seen ranfan most recent post? you can read back, then tell us what you think if you can add info on it :)
I have read the most recent ranfan post. I took it all with a pinch of salt because I don't have any proof of anything ranfan says. A lot of the things ranfan has said have been suspicions of mine and others on this forum recently and for years. I suspect there is more to Jonghyun's death than has been or will ever be publicised. As a former TVXQ fan I always suspected there was more to TVXQ's split too. I know SM and other kpop agencies are part of the Illuminati and serving a higher power to promote their sick agendas. I know because of the symbols, lyrics, fashion etc they use and it can't all be a coincidence when they are all doing the same thing all the time. Ranfan could be feeding our suspicions and trolling or he/she could be telling the truth but I just can't take what he/she is saying at their word without proof.
 





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well, for me, I know that the illuminati plan things like 20 years ahead and they never change it, so when they chooses Jonghyun as their sacrifice based on energy and numerology, I am sure that they won't change that and there is no power can stop them, so the thing about changing later to him and it was for Ex-DBSK members doesn't at all add up, plus there is zero signs in the MVs, concerts etc.. suggest any of the DBSK member were to be sacrificed, in sharp contrast with Jonghyun which since his debut(and not later as he suggested) were clearly shown he was to be sacrificed, I posted about that before, and it wasn't postponed like he suggest, it was exactly in 2017 as they planned.
he also said Minwoo wasn't sacrifice for Shinhwa, I don't know Minwoo actually before his death, but I have seen here post where it is clearly shown he is, I know the illuminati and their tactic and style when they sacrifice someone.
There is more things but these are the main things made me question him

How about you?

Actually the Illuminati plans things longer than 20 years ahead. Some of the plans they've had are a hundred+ years old and they are only getting fulfilled now. But I get what you're saying. That is why I have taken what Ranfan has said with a pinch of salt. Unless Ranfan is an insider as in the secret societies where these plans are made, he/she couldn't possibly know all this information. It is gossip unless we have more proof but it does give us food for thought.
 





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@phipps oh well. ihave that something in my mind too. ill just wait for a post that will satisfy my craving for info, knowledge and proof. let’s discuss other non-jjong related (or still jjong related if you want :D) but interesting topic in relation with the thread :)
 





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I'm sure that companies are involved in death of jonghyun.I mentioned tvxq because RedFan claims that she is in korean music industry or something like that ( I don't know if that is truth because this is internet and everyone could write anything they want so maybe she is saying the truth maybe not)and she said that jonghyun was sacrifice for tvxq. l remember that someone write something about connection between yakuzi and tvxq and some girl I don't remember her name.Someone on the top who has power wanted him dead and I think there are to many people how are involved and we only have small pieces of real picture.
We have no way of proving a lot of things said here by ranfan and others. We do only have snippets of what is a huge puzzle and I doubt we will ever get to find out everything. I think intuition and our beliefs play a role into letting us question and be suspicious of certain things going on in the world today. We should not just trust celebrities because with the little know, we know there is more going in the background than at the front to make them successful and unfortunately that could involve people being sacrificed.
 





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@phipps oh well. ihave that something in my mind too. ill just wait for a post that will satisfy my craving for info, knowledge and proof. let’s discuss other non-jjong related (or still jjong related if you want :D) but interesting topic in relation with the thread :)
We can discuss anything you want. I don't mind.
 





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They are idols and in public they must act professional. So to lash out like this when there are many people around is weird and it can be picked up by netizens and drama can start. How many times idol said or did something small and netizens went crazy and the idol had to apologize? I find this weird that Jonghyun didn't control himself and lash out like this. Why he is so angry? I'm wondering how angry he was when there were no cameras. I'm not trying to talk about him bad I'm just trying to connect the dots.
Jiyeon T-ara member posted this about the incident


I don't think it was about Minho, but Jonghyun looks hot tempered and probably tired from something, when someone feel annoyed, they lashes out at the smallest thing



Back then (in 2012), Jonghyun had many
outbursts - even on TV Shows like "Weekly Idol". Among Shawols he is known for this charactar trait.
He was very impulsive and gestured with his whole body - when he was happy or excited he jumped around, when he was surprised he had his mouth and eyes wide open, when he was angry he showed outbursts like the mentioned one. Back then, he seemed to be full of energy. On Shinee's One Fine Day (2012) he was laughing and hyped up the whole time and he was always the member who talked the most.
This changed abruptely. Jonghyun became calmer and more pensive, he didn't talk as much any more and started to share his emotions and thoughts on differnet (more serious and more phylosophical) topics. Even though the old side of him popped up from time to time, he never seemed to be the same as before.
Back in 2012 (or before?) the members stated that Jonghyun and Minho where the loudest backstage. In later interviews they told Jonghyun is much calmer backstage than he is on stage. He himself mentioned frequently (on Blue Night) how different the stage persona "Shinee's Jonghyun" is from the Jonghyun behind the scenes. And that he wanted to show his real self to the world.
Furthermore, there is an interview where the Shinee members said that they argued a lot and very loud in the past, because all of them where stubborn. However, later they learned to respect each other and even though they still discussed very loudly wouldn't feel offended. They said that outsiders might think that they where constantly arguing, even though they weren't.
Also, when Jonghyun made mistakes that caused controversions, he was always fast to react and wrote long and sincere excuses. He didn't even wait until SM give any statement, but posted them directly (like in the end of the year 2016).

I don't know what happened to him to change his behavior this much.
His dreams where constant over the years - he wanted to be a composer since debut days (and not a mere idol), showed self-produced songs on TV in 2012 and finally made a Solo Debut in 2015 after publishing many songs on his Blue Night Radio Show in 2014.
Something must have happened around 2013 for him to change that much.



 





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Back then (2012), Jonghun even had many
outbursts - even on TV Shows like "Weekly Idol". Among Shawols he is known for this charactar trait.
He was very impulsive and gestured with his whole body - when he was happy or excited he jumped around, when he was surprised he had his mouth and eyes wide open, when he was angry he showed outbursts like the me tioned one. Back then, he seemed to be full of energy. On Shinee's One Fine Day (2012) he was laughing and hyped up the whole time and he was always the member who talked the most.
This changed abruptely. Jonghyun became calmer and more pensive, he didn't talk as much any more and started to share his emotions and thoughts on differnet (more serious and more phylosophical) topics. Even though the old side of him popped up from time to time, he never seemed to be the same as before.
Back in 2012 (or before?) the members stated that Jonghyun and Minho where the loudest backstage. In later interviews they told Jonghyun is much calmer backstage than he is on stage. He himself mentioned frequently (on Blue Night) how different the stage persona "Shinee's Jonghyun" is from the Jonghyun behind the scenes. And that he wanted to show his real self to the world.
Furthermore, there is an interview where the Shinee members said that they argued a lot and very loud in the past, because all of them where stubborn. However, later they learned to respect each other and even though they still discussed very loudly wouldn't feel offended. They said that outsiders might think that they where constantly arguing, even though they weren't.
Also, when Jonghyun made mistakes that caused controversions, he was always fast to react and wrote long and sincere excuses. He didn't even wait until SM give any statement, but posted them directly (like in the end of the year 2016).

I don't know what happened to him to change his behavior this much.
His dreams where constant over the years - he wanted to be a composer since debut days (and not a mere idol), showed self-produced songs on TV in 2012 and finally made a Solo Debut in 2015 after publishing many songs on his Blue Night Radio Show in 2014.
Something must have happened around 2013 for him to change that much.



ive read somewhere when fans noticed how talkative he was like they wanted to just the mic from him and give it to other member for a chance to talk. and knowing jjong was the most among them who reads on social media he might be became aware of it (*i just hate the antis, really). (for me hes still the most talkative even though and i dont mind because thats what he was made of, fans loved him as he was).

could it be, the car accident started his depression? remember in his book he mentioned re his depression? *since i cant understand hangul yet). he also compared himself into skeleton flower. lastly, look at the details of the poster for his Inspired solo con: there were medications, letter that spells haters, anti-, and his first album Base. could it be his depression worsen when he had his solo? do you think his company has a role, they made him depressed?
 





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