Jesus didn't claim to be God

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@Colonel Valerio :

"...Before anyone gets totally the wrong idea and jumps to the wrong conclusion, and thinks about the "Heaven's Gate" people, in America, who committed mass-suicide to supposedly join a spacecraft. Christ says quite clearly that the New Jerusalem will come down to Earth to pick up the "Elect" (many are called; few are chosen - Elect), just as it happens in the famous film, where they take only the Chosen/Elect - Roy Neary/Richard Dreyfuss.

Nowhere in Scripture does it say to committ suicide; it says to crucify your "Self"-ishness DAILY and no-one can commit suicide every day.

Last month (Decrember '98), reported on Dublin's Today/FM Radio, there were numerous sightings of small scout-ships; who presumably came to let people see them, or else people wouldn't have, just as happens in Close Encounters, in order to prepare the "Elect" for the big Day. These sightings were reported by people telephoning in from all over Meath and no-one committed suicide. You don't have to believe me ask Today/F.M."..."
- http://jahtruth.net/socioad.htm

"...Your "Self" is the cross YOU have to bear and carry about until it is crucified and leaves you free from its insatiable demands and burdens, that weigh you down and make you stumble and make your life selfish and a misery. This means killing the "Self" DAILY and obviously does NOT mean committing suicide, as you cannot commit suicide every day..."
- http://jahtruth.net/noti.htm

"...This degradation of the Spiritual strength and masculinity of men is the root-cause of many of the social problems that both men and women are currently facing in modern society, such as the increasing number of men suffering from depression; committing suicide or turning to homosexuality and the increasing number of women taking up and becoming addicted to smoking, drinking and other stress relieving drugs, in order to try to cope with modern day life.

Because of this constant degradation of the man's status as being the strong Spiritual leader (which does not mean beating your wife, or anyone else for that matter), it is becoming increasingly more difficult to be a real man in modern society. Consequently many men find that they can't fulfill what they feel to be, and God says is, their role in society. Because of this false propaganda and laws that take away and give custody of men's children to women, men become depressed, some committing suicide and others try to turn to doing the role of women in society and become what God condemns as an abomination to Him - homosexuals.

On the other side of the same coin we have women trying to take over and fulfill the man's role in society, which women are not spiritually equipped to do because they are affected more easily than men by emotions and mood-swings caused by the greater amount of hormones in their blood-stream controlling the various cycles of the female body, which enables Satan to manipulate them and their thoughts more easily than he can do with a man. That is part of why Eve (woman) gave in to the serpent (Satan) and was then commanded by God to allow Adam (man) to rule over her (woman) and thereby help to prevent Satan from succeeding in having his will done on Earth, instead of God's Will being done. Because of the role-reversal, most women who are in positions of authority suffer from excessive stress and turn to smoking, drink or other drugs to cope, and consequently enter the downward spiral of drug dependency and depression, ultimately leading to their own self-destruction. For a full explanation of this, please study "The Way home or face The Fire"..."
- http://jahtruth.net/men.htm


The Way home or face The Fire - By JAH

13:75 Drug-addiction and alcoholism are the same thing, except that they refer to different types of
drugs, both of which can kill your body. Alcoholism and drug-addiction are the coward’s way out,
by surrendering to evil, and then hiding, permanently, in their separate world, where there is less
pain. It is also very selfish, because they pass their pain, and problems, on, to those around them.
13:76 There is NO escape, and you only make things worse for yourselves, and those around you,
who love or care for you. If you kill your body, God sends you back again, into another body, and
punishes you for having done it. There is NO escape!

13:77 You have to FACE your problems, ADMIT your weaknesses and faults, to YOURSELF and
to God, and overcome (Rev. 2:26) your problems, and pay your Karmic debts. Admit that you are
not perfect, and lose your ego, and the pain will go with it. If you were perfect you would not be

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here. No-one else is perfect either, in fact, they are probably worse than you, but their egos would
never let them admit it, to you. They don’t need escapism, because they are happy, being bad.
13:78 Then ask God, with humility, to help you to overcome your faults and weaknesses, and put
on God’s Armour, and FIGHT your weaknesses, with His guidance, and overcome them; solve your
problems, by finding the solutions, and make your world bearable. If you do that, you will gain
(earn) some spiritual self-respect; through the victories, that God has helped YOU to win; and learn
to like the person, that God has helped you to become. Remember though, ALWAYS to remain
humble, because you could never have won alone.
 





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You still haven't shown the biblical scholar qualifications that a genuine translator would show to prove his credentials. For all we know John Anthony Hill could have received all this mishmash of religious texts via hallucinations or automatic writing.
I have done an online search about this JAHTRUTH group that the member is proselytizing. John Anthony Hill and Philip Arundel van der Westhuizen are the names that come up in association with group leadership. They are in trouble with the law repeatedly. Illegal immigration and VISA issues; repeated harassment of the European Court of Human Rights; death threats came up once; as well as nuisance/harassment of people and the law had to step in. The member is proselytizing, sometimes under the same name, at numerous discussion forums. He is asked the same questions of 'who exactly is writing the material that you are proselytizing and what authority do they have to be able to claim to have THE ONLY TRUTH'?? The member is refusing to answer the questions.
 





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Yes, the Christian belief is that Jesus confirmed that He is God incarnate and that is clear in the biblical writings. The vast majority of the 2 billion christians on the planet agree with this. Jesus said it and those He taught said it as well. The quotes have already been given. Islam, which was invented 650 years after Jesus walked the Earth, claims otherwise. They have to. If Christianity has God Himself, then what need does humanity have of Muhammad and Islam? None. The author of this thread teachings a Christian/Islam hybrid religion of his own. It's odd because Islam and Christianity are totally at odds.
 





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I have done an online search about this JAHTRUTH group that the member is proselytizing. John Anthony Hill and Philip Arundel van der Westhuizen are the names that come up in association with group leadership. They are in trouble with the law repeatedly. Illegal immigration and VISA issues; repeated harassment of the European Court of Human Rights; death threats came up once; as well as nuisance/harassment of people and the law had to step in. The member is proselytizing, sometimes under the same name, at numerous discussion forums. He is asked the same questions of 'who exactly is writing the material that you are proselytizing and what authority do they have to be able to claim to have THE ONLY TRUTH'?? The member is refusing to answer the questions.
Hello PioneerSpirit,

You are a sad case.

Also, what you are trying to do won't work.
I know it's you so you might as well drop the act.
I said to you, good luck, because I'm done talking to you.
It does not matter how many times someone shows you the truth, you won't listen to reason and there is just no getting through.
You already have all of the information.
So, if you really want to know the Source of it, then get off the forums and read the Book like I've told you many times.

You have the time on your hands to easily be able to do so, so you have no excuse.

Because of all your evil loaded questions I have stopped responding to you.
You also don't need any answers from me, because you have the link to The Way home or face The Fire.

Peace be upon you.
bible student
 





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Because of all your evil loaded questions I have stopped responding to you.
That's not an answer. That's running away.

You claim to have 'THE ONLY TRUTH'. WHO writes your Christian/Muslim hybrid books? Give his HUMAN BIRTH NAME and not the quasi-religious name he gave himself after watching the movie DUNE. What are his credentials? What is his record with law enforcement?

I have done an online search about this JAHTRUTH group that the member is proselytizing. John Anthony Hill and Philip Arundel van der Westhuizen are the names that come up in association with group leadership. They are in trouble with the law repeatedly. Illegal immigration and VISA issues; repeated harassment of the European Court of Human Rights; death threats came up once; as well as nuisance/harassment of people and the law had to step in.
 





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That's not an answer. That's running away.
That is choosing not to interact which is different, and that is what I'm choosing to do now. Good luck to you. I wish you all the best. Peace be upon you.

You claim to have 'THE ONLY TRUTH'. WHO writes your Christian/Muslim hybrid books? Give his HUMAN BIRTH NAME and not the quasi-religious name he gave himself after watching the movie DUNE. What are his credentials? What is his record with law enforcement?

I have done an online search about this JAHTRUTH group that the member is proselytizing. John Anthony Hill and Philip Arundel van der Westhuizen are the names that come up in association with group leadership. They are in trouble with the law repeatedly. Illegal immigration and VISA issues; repeated harassment of the European Court of Human Rights; death threats came up once; as well as nuisance/harassment of people and the law had to step in.
The LAWFUL ARGUMENT AGAINST JURISDICTION & SOVEREIGNTY that "they" cannot Lawfully argue against and win, and that you can also use in case you need to defend yourself in one of their fraudulent and unjust courts can be found and read in its' entirety, at:

http://jahtruth.net/britmon.htm


Also see:
https://bulletprooflaw.wordpress.com/
 





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Still not addressing the questions - You claim to have 'THE ONLY TRUTH'. WHO writes your Christian/Muslim hybrid books? Give his HUMAN BIRTH NAME and not the quasi-religious name he gave himself after watching the movie DUNE. What are his credentials? What is his record with law enforcement? Give the credentials.
 





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Still not addressing the questions - You claim to have 'THE ONLY TRUTH'. WHO writes your Christian/Muslim hybrid books? Give his HUMAN BIRTH NAME and not the quasi-religious name he gave himself after watching the movie DUNE. What are his credentials? What is his record with law enforcement? Give the credentials.
The Way home or face The Fire
12:28 If anyone, having read this Book, doubts that God and Prince Michael/Christ have written it, then you are so far into Satan's grip, and insane, that there is no hope for you (Sura 2:98). 12:29 THIS Book was not written after a Prophet's death, by his students, or by an enlightened prisoner; it was written by God's eldest Son and God Himself (Daniel 10:21). I am not a prisoner here, I came here voluntarily, to try to help you all, to survive, and to give you all, one LAST chance. 12:30 With this Book, the mystery of God is now finished, and His truth published, and soon, it and the Gospel of The Kingdom will have been published, to all nations (Mark 13:10). 12:31 If you think that ANYONE, other than Prince Michael, except for my Father Himself, would be able; not only to break the seals on the Books, but also to have a spirit, strong-enough, and with enough courage, to write and have this Book published, in the world of today, and to challenge the entire world, and do battle against Satan, on his own ground, with all 6,000,000,000 of his evil angels to help him; then you are CRAZY and are calling God a liar. 12:32 This whole world is crazy, and the time has now come, for you all, to learn to be sane, or die, SOON, and I mean VERY SOON. 12:33 It should not be too much of a surprise, to those of you who can see how crazy mankind is, to find-out that this planet is a prison, for the criminally-insane. Some of you are less insane than others, but, unfortunately, the people who are the MOST insane, and who THINK they are the most sane (classic symptoms of insanity), are those who are ruining things, for everyone else, by running the world for Satan, who, himself, is totally, criminally insane. Satan is ruling the world,

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right-now, through those very people, who are in human governments and religious-organisations (Ephesians 6:11-12). 12:34 This planet is being run on Satan's logic, which is actually illogic, because he is insane. 12:35 If this world's logic WAS logical, then the world would be getting better, but we can all SEE that it is rapidly getting worse. 12:36 However, man's stupid arrogance will not allow him to admit, that his methods and logic DO NOT WORK, and turn around, and go back to God's REAL sane logic. 12:37 Mankind is insane. If I were to ask you, most of you will agree with that statement. Then you would tell me, that it is everyone else, and that YOU are sane. It's always someone else — it's NEVER you! 12:38 You KNOW, that, if you don't keep the COMMANDMENTS, and DO God's Will, and learn to be good, then you are going to be executed. If you didn't know; then you know now. 12:39 Are you keeping the COMMANDMENTS, and DOING God's Will, so that you can survive? If you are not, then isn't that insanity? 12:40 Isn't exchanging IMMORTALITY, for worldly possessions, that you can NEVER keep, insanity? 12:41 You can NOT learn to be sane, by going to human psychiatrists, because they too are insane (by God's standards), and also work on this world's (Satan's) illogic, and do not REALLY know what they are doing. 12:42 The ONLY person, who can teach you REAL logic, and to be REALLY sane (really sane - by God's standards and not insane mankind's [Satan's] illogical-standards), is God Himself, by you doing His Will, and learning, from Him, DIRECTLY, 24 hours a day; 7 days a week; 52 weeks a year; year after year. 12:43 You can NOT achieve anything, by talking to Him for 10 minutes, or even 1 hour a day, because, if you talk to Him for only 1 hour a day, you are talking to Satan for the other 23 hours a day, and doing Satan's will, leading you to “The Fire”.

I hope that has answered your question.
 





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The Way home or face The Fire
12:28 If anyone, having read this Book, doubts that God and Prince Michael/Christ have written it, then you are so far into Satan's grip, and insane, that there is no hope for you (Sura 2:98). 12:29 THIS Book was not written after a Prophet's death, by his students, or by an enlightened prisoner; it was written by God's eldest Son and God Himself (Daniel 10:21).

God doesn't sit in London writing Christian/Islam hybrid books. Neither does an ArchAngel. That's not how they operate. And Christ has not returned yet. When that happens ALL EYES shall see Him, and ALL nations shall repent (mourn their sins), and He shall come in all glory and power in the clouds, the same way He left, and all the armies of Heaven will accompany Him. That hasn't happened. So no, Jesus didn't write those books either.

A human wrote those books. Answer the question ... which human wrote the books? John Anthony Hall? Philip Arundel van der Westhuizen? Both are in trouble with the law. Illegal immigration and illegal VISA problems. Death threats. Harassment of people with their apocalyptic christian/islam hybrid cult materials. Give the name of the HUMAN (real name, not a fake cult name he picked from a science fiction movie) who wrote those and the credentials of that human. YOU made the claims now answer the questions.