Jeffrey Epstein. Hello?

Thunderian

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there is more evidence than simply 3 israelis smiling and cheering and saying on israeli tv, "we were there to document the event", but we can go into that on another thread.
I agree that it’s a topic for another thread, but the “document the event” comment is another aspect of the story, like the “celebrating”, that has been interpreted in a way that feeds the narrative instead of reflecting the facts.

The Israelis were asked why they were taking pictures. The answer was “our purpose [in taking pictures] was to document the event.” The language sounds sinister if you want it to, but the meaning, from people whose use of English words is different from ours, is reasonably innocent.
 






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The Israelis were asked why they were taking pictures. The answer was “our purpose [in taking pictures] was to document the event.” The language sounds sinister if you want it to, but the meaning, from people whose use of English words is different from ours, is reasonably innocent.
You’re right about this actually, it’s just one intelligence agency documenting the event for intelligence purposes. The Mossad’s hands aren’t clean ( none of them are, from the CIA, MI-5 or the SIS) but to say “jewZ did 9/11” is to apply a simple answer to a complex geopolitical situation, that really was a case of Al-Qaeda utilizing 4th generation warfare.

This all deserves another thread tho
 






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there is more evidence than simply 3 israelis smiling and cheering and saying on israeli tv, "we were there to document the event", but we can go into that on another thread.
I could believe they can only say so much without exposing the extent of their friendly surveillance on our soil.... there’s also a theory that our people didn’t wanna hear it.... but in the end I think they knew..... were they part of the rigging, if we want to say it was a controlled demolition? There is some circumstantial evidence for that as well.... but it’s too much info to make sense of, and the real vital info is still hidden.... I reckon this was a Mossad-cia deep state collaboration. At minimum our own government is in on at least a coverup..... Saudis are complicit too..... so they all suck...and we bomb Iraq.... it’s a clusterfudge.... who benefits from bombing & destabilizing all these Arab nations?and who benefited from building 7 going down? Feels like multiple special interests.... and you got the military industrial complex’s perpetual war on terror and the patriot act.... so, yeah, lots of blame & guilt to go around, but I think our own government (free of outside foreign influence ) is public enemy #1 at that time or whoever makes up our shadow gov /deep state....

I don’t think I give a crap anymore, lol
 






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I’ll let Mr. Russo have the last word so we can get back to Epstein....

 






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I wonder how this story will be covered up. From the royal family to the Clintons to Trump, Epstein and all the dirt he has on these people is a big threat. But who knows, maybe they've neutralised him already and this is all a performance to lull the masses into believing any sort of justice is possible with these monsters in charge.

This is a long read, and I don't agree with it all, but it offers some interesting insights into some things: https://phibetaiota.net/2018/02/p***philia-empire-satan-sodomy-the-deep-state-chapter-14-the-jeffrey-epstein-scandal-anatomy-of-the-zionist-illuminati-sexual-blackmail-system/
Thanks for posting. Yes it took about an hour to read but this chapter has to be the most in-depth of any article out there. Warning though, it contains a lot of explicit material. Anyone who "doesn't feel" there are direct ties an Israeli intelligence operation is either childishly ignorant or a paid shill. Here's a few of the references the author cites from:

“Epstein, Abercrombie, Sex Slaves, US Military, Mossad,”
“Trump Controlled by Mossad,”
“A Brief Summary of the Rothschild’s Crime Syndicate’s in the Middle East and Elsewhere,"
“The Hidden History of the Incredibly Evil Khazarian Mafia,”
“Israel Buys the US Congress: Sabotaging the US-Iran Peace Negotiations,”
“Sexual Deviant Jeffrey Epstein and the Mossad High Roller p***phile Ring,”
“Jeffrey Epstein, Mossad and 9/11,”
“Welcome to Waterbury: The City that holds Secrets that could Bring down Donald Trump,”

"...For well over a decade Epstein and his hired handlers freely trafficked victims to his sex slave island and his other residential palaces to serve the elite’s p***phile crowd listed in the billionaire’s infamous black book. Contained therein are names of scores of the most powerful politicians from presidents to prime ministers, royalty, judges, CEOs, bankers and entertainers, all for blackmailing purposes so that the Luciferian planetary controllers through US Empire and Israel could continue unchallenged their absolute authority and control over the geopolitics chessboard. But their reign of terror and destruction is fast coming to an end now that the truth – piece by piece – has been more fully exposed than at any previous time in human history. The crime cabal is going down!"
 






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Anyone who "doesn't feel" there are direct ties an Israeli intelligence operation is either childishly ignorant or a paid shill. Here's a few of the references the author cites from:

“Epstein, Abercrombie, Sex Slaves, US Military, Mossad,”
“Trump Controlled by Mossad,”
“A Brief Summary of the Rothschild’s Crime Syndicate’s in the Middle East and Elsewhere,"
“The Hidden History of the Incredibly Evil Khazarian Mafia,”
“Israel Buys the US Congress: Sabotaging the US-Iran Peace Negotiations,”
“Sexual Deviant Jeffrey Epstein and the Mossad High Roller p***phile Ring,”
“Jeffrey Epstein, Mossad and 9/11,”
“Welcome to Waterbury: The City that holds Secrets that could Bring down Donald Trump,”
What makes you think those sources are telling the truth? I tend to be pretty strict about what I accept as the truth. One good method for learning what is true is determining the source of the information, and then following that source back. It should all lead to the truth. If I can't determine that something is the truth, then I don't accept it as the truth. I would rather be childishly ignorant than foolishly deceived.
 






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Not Stephen Hawking!



That is seriously Hawking on Epstein's island, but I don't seriously believe Hawking was guilty of anything. Those are world-famous theoretical physicists Kip Thorne and Lisa Randall with him, enjoying some of Epstein's famous jerk chicken and fruit punch, and those people are bona fide geniuses. Epstein didn't just roll with princes and presidents -- he rolled with the guys like Hawking, too.

The picture was taken in 2006 during a conference on gravity that Epstein held on the neighboring island of St. Thomas (as one does), and Hawking was just one of 21 internationally-renowned scientists who attended. Epstein had the connections to throw an event like that, and then have all those famous big heads over to his island for some BBQ and a submarine ride. He even modified his sub so Hawking could ride in it and tour the sea bed.
 






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remember when he told us not to look at the hillary emails?


well... hes basically doing it again.
good thing we have good ol` cnn around to tell us how to think.
i am sure he has been to the island-- for sure his brother has.

0:35 clip
https://www.bitchute.com/video/5YvaLKCZcquA/
CNN's Chris Cuomo: Let's Not Get Caught Up In The Intrigue Of Who Jeffrey Epstein's Friends Are
:rolleyes::rolleyes: There is something awfully strange about the way that family views injustice. His brother, Gov. Cuomo of NY, put a statue up to honor Christopher Columbus last year, while other states have been apologizing to the Native Americans and changing Columbus Day to Indigenous People's Day.
 






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I found this a couple days ago. It breaks down how Epstein’s blackmail program may have worked.

Thread by @quantian1:​
So, apologies in advance, but I want to do a quick little THREAD to explain my theory of what the Epstein story really is. I promise this isn't some crazy Pizzagate conspiracy about space lizards, just a neat little explanation that IMO perfectly fits the known facts (0/13):​
(1/13) Let's take as our starting points two givens.​
(A.) You are a committed, unrepentant p***phile​
(B.) Because of your old job in private banking, you are very connected to lots of very, very wealthy people​
We'll also assume a goal:​
(Z.) You want to become very rich​
(2/13) The obvious route is, well, obvious: you could just be a pimp, offering underage prostitute services to very rich people. This has two problems: you're very disposable (see: DC madam), and it's also not super lucrative. You can't charge millions of dollars up front.​
(3/13) The second level though follows instantly: You don't need to charge up front, just get them to have underage sex, and then blackmail them afterwards for hush money. Better ROI, but you're still a liability, and producing and receiving big bribe money raises big questions.​
(4/13) So, what to do? Well, the second idea has some merits. First, you need to recruit people in. Have lots of massive parties at your spacious home (check), invite top academics, artists, politicians to encourage people to come (check), and supply lots of young women (check)​
(5/13) You don't even have to do anything, and most people invited might even be totally unaware of the real purpose of the parties! But, sooner or later, some billionaire will get handsy, she'll escort him to a room with a hidden camera, things happen. Morning after, you strike.​
(6/13) You inform him she was really 15, but you offer him a nice, neat way to buy your silence: a large allocation to your hedge fund, which charges 2/20 (check). To ensure nobody else asks questions, you also take the extraordinary step of demanding power of attorney (check)​
(7/13) The fund is offshore in a tax haven (check) and nobody will see the client list (check). Of course, you don't really know anything about investing, instead making up some nonsense about currency trading (check), and nobody on Wall Street has ever traded with you (check)​
(8/13) The fund itself doesn't need investment personnel (check), only some back office people to process the wires (check). You don't want to money from non-pedophiles, or they'll notice you've just put it in a S&P 500 fund, so you reject all incoming inquiries (check)​
(9/13) A $20 million wire from Billionaire X to you with no obvious reason will raise many questions, and the IRS will certainly want to know what you did to warrant it. A $5 million quarterly fee for managing $1 billion in assets? Nobody bats an eye.​
(10/13) Because of this structure, you're extraordinarily secretive about client lists (check) because they aren't clients, they're pedophiles paying you bribes, and they also are very secretive, which is why no letters or return streams ever leak (check)​
(11/13) Occasionally you may also try this trick on other people: important political figures, mayors, prosecutors, etc. They don't invest in the fund, but it's nice to have them in your pocket. Others (academics, artists, etc.) can just be bought with money as a PR smokescreen.​
(12/13) And, of course, the scam can be kept going as long as people are willing to pay, which is forever. If you're ever caught, just lean on some of your other friends in government to lean on the prosecutor to get you a sweetheart deal. There's almost zero risk.​
(13/13) And the last piece of the puzzle is the evidence. You'd want it somewhere remote, but accessible: a place the US can't touch but you have an excuse to visit all the time to update. Remember that offshore fund?​
I bet there's a *very* interesting safe deposit box there.​
Two small points of clarification:​
1. This scheme works just as well if the billionaires are in on it from the getgo as a way to buy sex; I assumed that was obvious but I guess not.​
2. There’s no need to invoke the Mafia/Russia/Mossad/CIA/etc, that’s just needlessly overfitting.​
 






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What makes you think those sources are telling the truth? I tend to be pretty strict about what I accept as the truth. One good method for learning what is true is determining the source of the information, and then following that source back. It should all lead to the truth. If I can't determine that something is the truth, then I don't accept it as the truth. I would rather be childishly ignorant than foolishly deceived.
How is your "truth" not a delusion? I've never read you link anything more than some mainstream news from Reuters, FOX, or right wing Jerusalem Post. Even troll dis-information put out by the Israeli government. Sorry bud, you're not much of a truther. There's researchers and journalists documenting the crimes of the people you vocally support but- "there's no need to invoke Mossad". In my opinion an inquiry into what we know are FACTS is more valuable than the mutterings of a random right wing economist.

"...Wexner’s (Epstein's 'mentor') ties to Israel and Mossad became more than apparent when a document entitled “Wexner Analysis: Israeli Communication Priorities 2003” was uncovered, outlining a PR campaign promoting the Iraq war invasion demonizing Saddam Hussein – dead or alive – as the false link to terrorism with emphasis that Israeli foreign policy interests are identical to US foreign policy interests. The report serves as confirmation that Wexner and his charity organization called the Mega Group provided the cover as a Zionist Mossad front actively influencing and dictating US war policy in the Middle East...

"...For years prior Wexner had been providing Epstein with the Mossad link that included introducing Ghislaine Maxwell as his sometime girlfriend and blackmail operation pimp while the hedge fund magician ostensibly “moves Wexner’s billions around the globe.” As chief Mossad blackmailer, it wasn’t long before Epstein found his way to invited memberships in such exclusive elitist private clubs as the powerful Trilateral Commission and Council on Foreign Relations...."

Did Pedo Epstein Work for Mossad?- Philip Giraldi
 






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Wow. No offense, but 'lol' is a stupid argument. That is all that you can say to counter this last comment.. oh thunder of zeus' hammer?
You only have to look in this thread to see what a laughable statement “all you ever do is link to Fox, Reuters and the Jerusalem Post” is. What further do I need to respond?
 






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(4/13) So, what to do? Well, the second idea has some merits. First, you need to recruit people in. Have lots of massive parties at your spacious home (check), invite top academics, artists, politicians to encourage people to come (check), and supply lots of young women (check)
A bit of a problem here. This whole theory is based on the premise that you are able to find a number of totally gullable, clueless billionaires or people of high social.standing that were completely unaware of Epstein's past. What type of utter naivety would you need to have to accept an invite to any "party" hosted or connected in any way to a notorious p***phile?

The moment any innocently duped high flier realises they are being exposed to some sordid honeytrap they get the hell out of there and call their lawyers or get the potential problem sorted in other ways.

Anybody attending such functions would be well aware of what was going to be on offer.

....." hey we've been invited to a cool party....oooh look at the guest list!...Kevin Spacey, R Kelly, Roman Polanski".....

.....yeah right!
 






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You only have to look in this thread to see what a laughable statement “all you ever do is link to Fox, Reuters and the Jerusalem Post” is. What further do I need to respond?
CBC, Dailywire, and gawker are not known for hard hitting investigative journalism. Correct me if I'm wrong.

The reason I would challenge your views is not out out of hate, but because you are vocal member of this forum (which I have respect for the level of honesty and truth-seeking). I'm not trying to be a fascist- "if you disagree with me you're a demon." But man there were several links about an Israeli connection before you posted, "I haven't read any connection." Like, what?

Thanks to this forum I've been reading material way out of my usual comfort zone, because I care about the truth. If there's a discussion I would think any honest, rational person would do the same. The Clinton's and other abusers should be thrown in jail for life. But as an American, knowing the sordid history of Israeli spying for generations... the public should be made aware of who logically appears to be the entity that funded and trained Epstein. The MSM downplaying an Israeli connection (just like the Russiagate diversion) is done for a reason.

I'm sure we agree that the ramifications of this case being reopened are massive. The question is how much of the truth will the ruling elite allow to be exposed.
 






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