Jeffrey Epstein. Hello?

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I really don't think that this is a partisan issue. Both Republicans and Democrats have been hanging around with him and his 'girls'. As far as the questions on the timing, I really don't think either party wanted this to blow up right now. But a journalist from I believe) Florida would not give this story a rest, and then it went big on the basis of how he outed Bear Sterns and as a byline about how he got aquitted on these other charges for that. Then the victims and their lawyers pounced again, from what I can tell. And certainly, the British Royal Family is not happy about this either. HRH issued a statement that Prince Andrew never did any such things. Lol
 





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Trump and Epstein knew each other socially until Trump cut him off from Mar-A-Lago for something he did with an underage girl there. It doesn’t sound like they were buddies.
Yet we have quotes of trump joking about Epstein liking young girls - even younger then the ones he himself likes - from 2002 ish so to claim he wasn’t well aware of what was going on when they were friends (another quote same time period of Epstein being a great guy) would be foolish.
 





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Yet we have quotes of trump joking about Epstein liking young girls - even younger then the ones he himself likes - from 2002 ish so to claim he wasn’t well aware of what was going on when they were friends (another quote same time period of Epstein being a great guy) would be foolish.
I think both sides are trying heavy duty damage control. Clinton is claiming he never went to his island, though plane trips show different facts, from what I read. People on Twitter are saying that pics of Clinton and Epstein have been scrubbed from google. (Didn't check that myself though) I am starting to seriously wonder if there is a possibility that Epstein would sometimes lure famous people and politicians to these things to blackmail them too. Not that I don't doubt the p***philia of the higher ups.. it's just that when the police ransacked his house, the news said that he had 'a whole safe of porn' there. Normal porn is not something that you normally keep in a safe.. and why was he keeping it in a safe? Given the type of clientele he seems to have had.
 





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You act like I would be upset if Clinton is brought down by this. I wouldn’t be, no one has damaged the Democratic Party more than he has.

He isn’t the current US President though.
so you believe this epstein stuff but pizzagate is just a far-right conspiracy.
you believe it because you think trump could be involved.
 





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so you believe this epstein stuff but pizzagate is just a far-right conspiracy.
you believe it because you think trump could be involved.
I’d believe the epstein stuff regardless of if trump was involved or not (I believed it before trump went into politics) because it was thoroughly investigated and he was found guilty.

Pizzagate is quite a stretch.. I’ve been to Roberta’s multiple times. It’s just a pizza place.
 





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Things could get really juicy with this. He's always been protected by his connections, but he seems pretty high and dry now.
this is trump in 2015, asked about clinton.
"nice guy, but a lot of problems coming up with that island with jeffrey epstein..."
https://www.bitchute.com/video/JnGes8xd0g0T/

i dont think trump is concerned at all about this. matter of fact, like lurking009 mentioned, trump was the person who cooperated the most with the attorney during the first case.
derrick broze is interviewing here-- that kid is neutral, as far as i am concerned, being an anarchist voluntaryist.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/znTB3OqG2nzA/

i want the pedophiles brought to justice. if trump is truly guilty, then it is what it is. lock him up. but the left is already putting the spotlight ONLY on him, and not the countless others involved. since the lefts 'russian collusion' witchhunt is over, theyll make this a political attack. again.
it will fail again, though.
 





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I’d believe the epstein stuff regardless of if trump was involved or not (I believed it before trump went into politics) because it was thoroughly investigated and he was found guilty.
and you think the pizza gate affair was investigated thoroughly?

Pizzagate is quite a stretch.. I’ve been to Roberta’s multiple times. It’s just a pizza place.
thats like saying, "oh, i watch disney movies all the time. its just a cartoon movie."
 





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so you believe this epstein stuff but pizzagate is just a far-right conspiracy.
you believe it because you think trump could be involved.
What’s there to “believe” regarding Epstein? We know he’s a predator and thanks to actual journalism ( not infowars, not cernovich, not big league politics, etc ad Infinitum ) at the Miami Herald, we know he got a slap on the wrist. Money and connections buy justice man you know this, rich people engage in the commercial sex trade of minors, that’s not a conspiracy. What do you think white dudes are going to Cambodia for?

That’s a far cry from satanic rituals and child sacrifice done in the basements of basementless Pizza shops. Why did VC take down his article? Why did Jonesy apologize? Because the claims made about comet ping pong are easily proved false.

There’s plenty of evidence for Epstein’s crimes. Whereas pizza gate is based off Chan/Reddit bullshit by misreading one way private emails that were stolen by the Russians.

Plenty of “liberals” may be implicated in this and I don’t care. I’m not a liberal and if a whole bunch of them go down that’s good for me too man.

Still it would be quite poetic if an underage sex scandal brings down Trump, the man whose election was fueled by Pizzagate nonsense.

The childish belief in these satanic pedo conspiracies only obfuscates the real issue of child exploitation and causes people to be less inclined to believe in the real thing.
 





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If there was anything to investigate it would have been @polymoog and if they do I will be 100% behind said investigation and whatever it uncovers - I don’t care if it’s democrats or republicans or purple spacemen.

But the pizzagate story was not credible. I bring up Roberta’s because it was mentioned and it’s crap. The story tries to point to demonic imagery without acknowledging that it’s literally a hipster pizzaria in a neighborhood in Brooklyn that has been entirely overrrun by outrageous hipsters. That’s all it is. There’s nothing freaky going on there.

Epstein on the other hand is a well known creep. He’s a p***phile through and through and everyone knew it and it’s been thoroughly investigated - because there was cause to do so - and he was found GUILTY. The plea deal was outrageous and should be outraging everyone but for some reason it’s not because you feel democrats aren’t getting enough shit?
 





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I’m not celebrating yet either or making any predictions.

I have said this for years that I believe it’s possible Trump is going to declare all his enemies as pedophiles. This could be the start of that. Have his justice department lean on Jeff and implicate a bunch of prominent democrats then bam! You wake up one day and all the 2020 candidates or political opponents of Trump have their computers seized by the FBI and (Russian) CP found.

Trump declares a national emergency and suspends the election, his supporters believing the “storm” is here show up en masse on the streets with Bikers, and the Cops and brutalize protesters and Antifa in the cities. Meanwhile pro-Trump sheriffs and allied militias take over broad swaths of rural America.

Could very well happen, the only thing that would prevent a total Christian Right takeover of the US at this point would be the military and if they will side with Trump or the people.
 





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I’m not celebrating yet either or making any predictions.

I have said this for years that I believe it’s possible Trump is going to declare all his enemies as pedophiles. This could be the start of that. Have his justice department lean on Jeff and implicate a bunch of prominent democrats then bam! You wake up one day and all the 2020 candidates or political opponents of Trump have their computers seized by the FBI and (Russian) CP found.

Trump declares a national emergency and suspends the election, his supporters believing the “storm” is here show up en masse on the streets with Bikers, and the Cops and brutalize protesters and Antifa in the cities. Meanwhile pro-Trump sheriffs and allied militias take over broad swaths of rural America.

Could very well happen, the only thing that would prevent a total Christian Right takeover of the US at this point would be the military and if they will side with Trump or the people.
Well that would be terrifying... and the military goes with trump. Just saying. I find this highly implausible, but I’ve found plenty of things highly implausible that are now real life so who knows?

The thing is anyone epstein could bring down was granted immunity and that hasn’t been nullified and the justice department has stated it will protect that provision. So what we have is a plea deal that was specifically given to PREVENT someone from snitching. Which is almost unprecedented... so much so that I don’t know what to make of it. Snitching is usually law enforcements favorite thing so you wonder who they are trying to protect.. I doubt it’s clinton because they were willing to bury him with the whole lewinski thing and his other sexual issues/allegations against him have been well known and allowed to get air time. I doubt it’s trump because he was just another rich asshole at the time.. so I don’t know. Some one huge, that’s all I got.
 





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Well that would be terrifying... and the military goes with trump. Just saying. I find this highly implausible, but I’ve found plenty of things highly implausible that are now real life so who knows?

The thing is anyone epstein could bring down was granted immunity and that hasn’t been nullified and the justice department has stated it will protect that provision. So what we have is a plea deal that was specifically given to PREVENT someone from snitching. Which is almost unprecedented... so much so that I don’t know what to make of it. Snitching is usually law enforcements favorite thing so you wonder who they are trying to protect.. I doubt it’s clinton because they were willing to bury him with the whole lewinski thing and his other sexual issues/allegations against him have been well known and allowed to get air time. I doubt it’s trump because he was just another rich asshole at the time.. so I don’t know. Some one huge, that’s all I got.
I don’t think it’s likely either. Honestly, I don’t know how this plays out but I think it’s wishful thinking to believe that Trump will just be voted out or have his second term expire with him peacefully leaving office. ( if he hadn’t killed us all by then that is )

Yes that deal is the strangest thing I ever heard of. Maybe it won’t really lead to much and people just see it as a rich asshole getting his due, and the Herald gets a Pulitzer, but everyone knows it’s not really the full story...
 





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Well that would be terrifying... and the military goes with trump.
Not true. Most of the military (and I'm not talking about just soldiers obeying orders) have gone against Trump because he changed rules of engagement against military outing war criminals and they don't want Iran. 60 generals just came out against his shit. But Trump goes along with Bolton, who got us involved in the hoax Iraq war. This is highly problematic. That, and that he ran his election campaign on the fact that he would get the US out of foreign entanglement.. only to kiss Saud and Zionist asses over the American masses.

I would also like to say... That I view Republicans and Democrats the same. They both have destroyed the Constitution. So I'm not going to go into partisan politics. I'd rather listen to politicians who had integrity, like Eisenhower and Kennedy. Since LBJ. Everything has been screwed up
 





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Yet we have quotes of trump joking about Epstein liking young girls - even younger then the ones he himself likes - from 2002 ish so to claim he wasn’t well aware of what was going on when they were friends (another quote same time period of Epstein being a great guy) would be foolish.
Yeah, Trump says things that sound stupid. What's new?

It was common knowledge that Epstein liked young women, and Trump didn't say anything about himself liking young women. The full quote is this:

“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

None of that makes Trump a rapist.
 





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Trump and Jeffrey Epstein were the only two guests at a party with 28 women flown in for the ‘entertainment’: NYT report

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/07/tr...ent-nyt-report/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Sounds like a little more than just ‘social acquaintances’ but we are just going to have to wait and see.
Some nobody who hates Trump makes up something that the New York Times prints without verification and you immediately add it to your list of facts about the issue.

God help you, Colonel, if you are ever charged with a serious crime, and the judge and jury have the same standards for proof that you do.