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Thank you for the apology, I forgive you.

I didn’t say they could do no wrong..but they are in the land God gave them and they are defending themselves in that land against aggressors inside and outside....I can see that with my own eyes and don’t need a pastor to explain it.

Have you thought much about Zechariah 12:2-3?
A scripture about Jerusalem. What do you think about it in the context of what it says Jerusalem is in Revelation 21?
 

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A scripture about Jerusalem. What do you think about it in the context of what it says Jerusalem is in Revelation 21?
The new Jerusalem is after the millennium...we aren’t even there yet. We are still at Zechariah 12:2-3.
 
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The new Jerusalem is after the millennium...we aren’t even there yet. We are still at Zechariah 12:2-3.
We arent at Zechariah 12, no. That was written before Jesus came. We are AD, anno domini, after Jesus came. 30 years after the jews murdered Jesus, they were kicked out of Jerusalem.The romans invaded, their temple was destroyed, making their old religion impossible to practice, and they had to begin wandering the earth, and writing their Talmud talking about why Jesus was in hell and how they were still the righteous ones. How does that reconcile with that scripture that you gave that says the house of David will never be removed from Jerusalem, and anyone who attacks it will be destroyed? The Roman Empire lasted in one form or another for hundreds of years after that, and the eastern Roman Empire lasted for well over 1000 years after. Seems pretty clear that when they murdered the “house of David” aka jesus things changed.
 

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We arent at Zechariah 12, no. That was written before Jesus came. We are AD, anno domini, after Jesus came. 30 years after the jews murdered Jesus, they were kicked out of Jerusalem.The romans invaded, their temple was destroyed, making their old religion impossible to practice, and they had to begin wandering the earth, and writing their Talmud talking about why Jesus was in hell and how they were still the righteous ones. How does that reconcile with that scripture that you gave that says the house of David will never be removed from Jerusalem, and anyone who attacks it will be destroyed? The Roman Empire lasted in one form or another for hundreds of years after that, and the eastern Roman Empire lasted for well over 1000 years after. Seems pretty clear that when they murdered the “house of David” aka jesus things changed.
But we are at Zechariah 12...Israel is causing reeling to those around it..and it is a heavy burden for the world...we can’t solve the problem there and when anyone tries it goes bad.

The clue as to the verse being in the end times is when it says in that day. We are not yet at the time that Israel is surrounded by her enemies..and all the world is her enemy...but that time is coming up...its what the whole world is waiting for even if they don’t really know it. It’s why they make those end of the world type movies..why everyone thinks there will be a WW3.

The house of David isn’t removed from Jerusalem..Jesus was of the house of David. Jesus, the human died..but Jesus our God rose again 3 days later....and He hasn’t abandoned His people though they have abandoned Him...God will focus on returning His people to Himself..and we see that in Zechariah 12:10..it works..the Jews will see Jesus as their savior and mourn for Him...as a nation.
 

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It's fact. I speak Farsi, have spoken to countless Iranians here in the Richmond Hill area (one of the biggest Iranian communities in Canada), and have been to Iran and spoken to Iranians there. It's why I believe you when you say the Iranians you've spoken to here dislike the regime but it's a very one sided view and they're the minority. The majority of Iranians like their government but from what I hear and see their not a fan of their new current leader.
Small correction: current president.
 
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We arent at Zechariah 12, no. That was written before Jesus came. We are AD, anno domini, after Jesus came. 30 years after the jews murdered Jesus, they were kicked out of Jerusalem.The romans invaded, their temple was destroyed, making their old religion impossible to practice, and they had to begin wandering the earth, and writing their Talmud talking about why Jesus was in hell and how they were still the righteous ones. How does that reconcile with that scripture that you gave that says the house of David will never be removed from Jerusalem, and anyone who attacks it will be destroyed? The Roman Empire lasted in one form or another for hundreds of years after that, and the eastern Roman Empire lasted for well over 1000 years after. Seems pretty clear that when they murdered the “house of David” aka jesus things changed.
these cufi clowns obsess with "nations reeling" as they stroke their obese cunts to the images of Muslims dying.

Thing is Muslims ruled Jerusalem longer than even the 1000 yrs they expect from white Jesus.

They haven't quite got to grips with all that so like to pretend it's Satan...even though Jesus said it would go to ppl who would produce the 'fruit'
 

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According to hadith, 70,000 Jews from Iran will follow the anti-christ.

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While they love to spoon feed you the "Israel vs Iran" narrative, for a large part, its the same team.

I do hope you all enjoy the theater. After all, it is free.
 

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According to hadith, 70,000 Jews from Iran will follow the anti-christ.

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While they love to spoon feed you the "Israel vs Iran" narrative, for a large part, its the same team.

I do hope you all enjoy the theater. After all, it is free.
I've heard others say the Iran-Israel tensions are a ruse, pointing to the fact Rouhani has close ties to the WEF. Both countries are invested in the Belt and Road initiative. As much as they talk Iran and other Muslim majority countries never actually do anything to stop the decimation of Palestine.

Can you say more why you believe they're on the same team?
 

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I've heard others say the Iran-Israel tensions are a ruse, pointing to the fact Rouhani has close ties to the WEF. Both countries are invested in the Belt and Road initiative. As much as they talk Iran and other Muslim majority countries never actually do anything to stop the decimation of Palestine.

Can you say more why you believe they're on the same team?
Different things over the years adding up show Iran to be yet another puppet. For what its worth Iran is mostly shia, who hold some radical beliefs compared to sunnis. In light of this, some would say Iran is not a Muslim country, but never knowing a shia personally, i can't tell you whats propaganda and whats fact. Only thing i can affirm is that we live in an age of deception.

Idk if people are ready to admit it yet but Israel has been the ruling state in the world for at least a decade now. Today all nations bow, bought off or are simply blackmailed. Have you heard of the topiat program? Look into it. When did Ep-stain first get caught? 2008 was it? The guy was literally a mossad asset tied to the Maxwell family. Robert Maxwell, the alleged Israeli "superspy".

Today anyone with an ounce of clout is compromised and it's been this way for years.

Israels power has to do with the anti-christ and "his day being like a week", but that's a story for another time i suppose.

It doesn't matter, Russia, China, Iran, ect, all must get Israeli permission. Proof of this is abundant for anyone with a few minutes to do the research.
 

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It's beyond my expressive, and probably your receptive communication powers (or rather, opportunities), for you to understand the difference between Rouhani (& the reformists) and Khamenei, the military forces, & the majority of people, but let this suffice for anyone who says Iran and IsraHell are on the same team (Memri is pro zionist).

 

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(Memri is pro zionist).
Yep, they are about as credible as CNN to be honest. Idk how many times they've been caught giving false translations incorrectly translating Arabic to English. Memri, whose headquarters are based in Washington DC have zero credibility.

Same goes for Reuters, or should i say Rothschild inc.
 

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Yep, they are about as credible as CNN to be honest. Idk how many times they've been caught giving false translations incorrectly translating Arabic to English. Memri, whose headquarters are based in Washington DC have zero credibility.

Same goes for Reuters, or should i say Rothschild inc.
The age of disinformation has really brought out the ugliness of humankind.

It’s up to the people to bridge divided and mend their current state.

It all seems like a lost cause for anything these days
 

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The age of disinformation has really brought out the ugliness of humankind.

It’s up to the people to bridge divided and mend their current state.

It all seems like a lost cause for anything these days
It is just a reminder to turn to the Creator as everything we are seeing today was prophesied by an illiterate man living in the desert over 1400 years ago.

In this case the removal of honesty and to find one trustworthy, you'd need to go to another town due to there rarity.
 

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It is just a reminder to turn to the Creator as everything we are seeing today was prophesied by an illiterate man living in the desert over 1400 years ago.

In this case the removal of honesty and to find one trustworthy, you'd need to go to another town due to there rarity.
Honestly it stems to common sense. People now are sheep and flocking to any which way.

Those who are smart enough to see past the disinfo are stuck in the middle. Much ado powerless at that.
 

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Honestly it stems to common sense. People now are sheep and flocking to any which way.

Those who are smart enough to see past the disinfo are stuck in the middle. Much ado powerless at that.
Well the people have always had the power, even today they still hold it. They just don't realize it. For example, say me, you and VC were alone on an island deciding whats for dinner. I pick coconuts and you both settle on pineapples. Guess what we're eating?

Today we outnumber the .01% by 99%. This is why they constantly use division psy-ops against us. Black, white. Rich, poor. Trump, Biden. They always try to pit us against one another when at the end of the day we all want peace. We all want safety in our homes, medicine, food, ect. But somehow we're always at each others throats fighting for the scraps from their table.



Far as others being smart enough to see disinfo. I don't get this myself because the masses seem really dumb for the most part. Pick whatever event you like. 9/11, Sandy Hook, Con-vid. Plenty of people beleive in these events just as the media has laid them out. Maybe its magic cast on the people? I remember a couple youtubers used to point out sigil magic used in media. TheBlackChild was one of them before he got censored like most truthers.

Then again maybe its just cognitive dissonance. People have been taught from kindergarten that the gooberment is good. When they get old and realize this was a lie, alot tend to shove their fingers in there ears to anything that conflicts with the official narrative.

Might have something to do with "bread and circuses"? Give a man food and entertainment and he'll never rise up.

Could have something to do with the level of degeneracy. Theres a reason Israel broadcast free porn into Palestinian homes.

Idk but until people stand up and say no to the psy-ops en-mass like 50,000 restaurants have recently done in Italy to the lock downs. Things will only get worse.

We're not powerless. We just need the "sheep" to realize it.
 

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Well the people have always had the power, even today they still hold it. They just don't realize it. For example, say me, you and VC were alone on an island deciding whats for dinner. I pick coconuts and you both settle on pineapples. Guess what we're eating?

Today we outnumber the .01% by 99%. This is why they constantly use division psy-ops against us. Black, white. Rich, poor. Trump, Biden. They always try to pit us against one another when at the end of the day we all want peace. We all want safety in our homes, medicine, food, ect. But somehow we're always at each others throats fighting for the scraps from their table.



Far as others being smart enough to see disinfo. I don't get this myself because the masses seem really dumb for the most part. Pick whatever event you like. 9/11, Sandy Hook, Con-vid. Plenty of people beleive in these events just as the media has laid them out. Maybe its magic cast on the people? I remember a couple youtubers used to point out sigil magic used in media. TheBlackChild was one of them before he got censored like most truthers.

Then again maybe its just cognitive dissonance. People have been taught from kindergarten that the gooberment is good. When they get old and realize this was a lie, alot tend to shove their fingers in there ears to anything that conflicts with the official narrative.

Might have something to do with "bread and circuses"? Give a man food and entertainment and he'll never rise up.

Could have something to do with the level of degeneracy. Theres a reason Israel broadcast free porn into Palestinian homes.

Idk but until people stand up and say no to the psy-ops en-mass like 50,000 restaurants have recently done in Italy to the lock downs. Things will only get worse.

We're not powerless. We just need the "sheep" to realize it.
Getting people to realize that....


That’s something else
 

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AUMF---Iran

In 5 months the war in Gaza isn't going to be about Hamas anymore, so let's just get on with the program.
This information and alot more is littered on this board that there are no legitimate excuses to get duped by the Establishment for the N-th time. These are Israel-centric thinktanks (Brookings, WINEP, JINSA) and in their own words, on the record, it's will be via provocation by Israel and her "allies"

A) The 2009 Brookings Institution paper titled, “Which Path to Persia? Options for a New American Strategy toward Iran,” US policymakers would openly admit:

…it would be far more preferable if the United States could cite an Iranian provocation as justification for the airstrikes before launching them. Clearly, the more outrageous, the more deadly, and the more unprovoked the Iranian action, the better off the United States would be. Of course, it would be very difficult for the United States to goad Iran into such a provocation without the rest of the world recognizing this game, which would then undermine it.

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AIPAC and WINEP

C) Tom Neumann, executive director of Jinsa, spelled out the plan in clear, cold terms:
"Jordan will likely survive the coming war with US assistance, so will some of the sheikhdoms. The current Saudi regime will likely not.
"The Iran dissident movement would be helped enormously by the demise of Saddam, and the Palestinians would have to know that the future lies with the West. Syria's Ba'athist dictatorship will likely fall unmourned, liberating Lebanon as well.
"Israel and Turkey, the only current democracies in the region, will find themselves in a far better neighbourhood." Would anyone like to bet on that?

JINSA
 

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I'll preface my post with the late Collin Powell's comments on "The Jinsa Crowd"

Anyway, their front page has a bunch of articles aggregated from MSM
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Last April, before the war began

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(April 21, 2023 / JNS)
A month after the Jewish Institute for National Security of America (JINSA) issued a letter signed by 44 retired U.S. generals and admirals that called on the United States to arm Israel against the threat of a nuclear Iran, the entity reissued the text with four new signatories.

The updated letter, which also appeared in The Hill, urges: “To confront this pressing high-priority threat, the United States should immediately provide Israel with the advanced weapons it needs to deter and prevent a nuclear Iran.”

On April 18, Israel’s Holocaust Remembrance Day, Iranian President Ebrahim Raisi proclaimed his desire to “destroy Haifa and Tel Aviv” should Israel take even the “smallest action” against the Islamic regime.
 
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