The joy of being as God in the knowing of good and evil.
"The joy of being as God in the knowing of good and evil".
Ah. Something to look forward to.
I don't know. The bible does show him doing more evil than good given that he mostly kills when he could just as easily cure.
Genesis has nothing to do with Jesus so I will take this as a deflection since the Jews never accepted Jesus as their Messiah.
If man gained rather than lost from the Fall, why this obsession, moreso in our day, with apotheosis? If the Rising man is what Adam and Eve secured for posterity from the Fall, it becomes a right. Common to every human. George Soros doesn't have to tell me he has apotheosised. Ray Kurzweil doesn't have to tell me 'you're almost there'!
If he did think himself the creator of everything, he is insane.
It's obvious that the original Gnostics were persecuted, their writings destroyed, their history falsified, and that the accounts given by the Church Fathers are not reliable. But what makes you think this form of Gnosticism has been preserved? It's safe to assume that all religions have experienced degrees of falsification. The best indication of this is the emergence of sects.
Like it or not, this is the only possible world, given our history. That makes it the best of all possible worlds, except for the imaginary ones you might think up.
I agree. This is brilliant and sums it up just right. For an omnipotent and omniscient being, the god of the bible ( and many other religions) sure makes a lot of mistakes that his puny creation gets punished over.
Yes it does include those because their god says to not believe in him makes you evil. Nevermind not harming anyone or anything in your life, you are guilty of thought crime. Sounds a lot like North Korea.
This and besides we should take the tyrants word against the rebel according to the person you quoted. Not me, I don't pander to tyrants man or god alike
In some ways I agree. I don't mean to make this about you, but I personally think you are well identified as a gnostic because plenty of early (2nd century) Christians, though they were later expelled from the Catholic (not necessarily Roman, just "universal") body, agreed with what is now called the "Heresiarch" Marcion that the god or God of the Old Testament and the "Father" of Jesus Christ were and are far from identical. They were known more as Marcionites than Christians. Then again, the original followers of Jesus weren't called Christians until Antioch, and, by then, St. Paul had become a predominant, vocal apostle, so it could be said that they were converts to his version of Christianity, to the "Pauline sect." As I recall having read, Marcion used the verse cited in your op to help prove his case: "... every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit." and concluded, in some ways logically enough, it seems to me, that, because the offspring of Adam and Eve are said to be born in "original sin," they must have been produced by a corrupt tree.
You are wrong... right off the bat! (So the rest of your argument goes out the window).
Indeed, given all the hot air that comes out of his deluded Christian slaves mouths.
Indeed.
In terms of the comprehension and settled doctrine of the early church goes, I think John Wayne’s quote speaks volumes:-
